July 31 2018
A woman that you do not want to mess around with.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/concealed-carry-mom-training-her-083134826.html

Let's not talk about gun control, I want to know who thinks her reasoning is reasonable.

And before any brings it up yes I know it is not exactly current affairs for most of you, but safety for some is always current. And yes I also know that she is trying to sell stuff.

Let's start with something light from everyone's favorite news source.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6901945/fat-cat-put-on-diet/

States -or politicians- are not, and never were, necessary for military or wars. If tomorrow all militaries and states ceased to be, there would be a bloodshed on a global scale (a bloodshed bigger than the one that is taking place right now). — Πετροκότσυφας

People would band together and become mini states for their own protection. Once this happened others would band together to try to steal what they have, then there would be 2 mini states. The bad guys and the good guys would need leaders to guide them so there would be ranks, therefore military. They would need people to negotiate and manage the internal affairs, therefore there would be politicians.

To what extent is it valid to say: They are simply different forms of marble. — rachMiel

It is not valid to say that, you could say however that they are marble in different forms.

My missus went back to school when my daughter went to college and got her degree in school management. She did so because she wanted to "Do Something" but then they offered her a job as an assistant principle so she is quite happy about the way things turned out.

Go for it girl, the world awaits you.

Understandable, but I still believe that young people should have some sort of starting point as a guide to getting to know what one's taste buds might like.
I spent years loving guzzling Robisons' Bitter until I went to a city pub and found out there where other things to drink. Just joking, i drank it because i liked it.

You forgot the Bartenders Bible. Not everyone likes straight whisky, bloody fools that they are.

Substitute goat for f'loom and you have it almost correct, just ask Banno.

Everything is basically made up of atoms and they are in turn made of smaller particles. It is just the arrangement of those particles that make them different.

I might be wrong, but I don't remember seeing anywhere that an electron in one element is any different from those in other elements.

Just remember, some people are sons of bitches and just don't play nice with others. — Bitter Crank

Can we just shot them too and be done with it?

Military is wrong on so any levels I cannot imagine how any one could want to join. By the way, not everyone wants to join. Some are signed up and some use it as a way to get away. A lot of the ones that d join willingly are people with a death wish or just want to do other people harm and get away with it.

For one, military power is sometimes needed to quell internal dissent. — Bitter Crank

This is happening here where I live and it is not a nice experience. They do dress them up as military police though before they tell them to shoot civilians.

For two, the military is an on-call personnel pool in times of emergency. — Bitter Crank

Less money would probably be spent by having properly trained personnel for the job than maintaining thousands of soldiers and all of their equipment.

For three, many individual countries could find themselves with dysfunctional states on next door. In order to defend themselves from disorder, if not military attack, a functioning military is required. — Bitter Crank

That does not seem to be working anywhere around the world. The armies are not stopping the hordes of refugees from reaching the places they want to go to. Again, better trained border guards would probably be more functional.

Yes but... they got guns too -- big ones, and they practice. — Bitter Crank

So? Should we just get bigger ones or tell the politicians to cut off their money before we shoot them?

Except the military. You would then have a military state. Good luck with that. — Bitter Crank

Hell no we gotta shoot dem too.

From my own reading of Descartes I fail to see how anything more than the assertion at 3, a thingless experience of thought has been effectively reasoned by Descartes. — Marcus de Brun

Is it possible for nothing to have an experience? Is it possible for nothing to have an a thought?

Something must have experienced the thought otherwise you cannot use the word experienced. Events don't happen to nothings.

It has been a very long time since I last read Descartes in anything like a serious fashion but I do not understand how you reached your conclusion.

Nietzsche observed that every country claim to have a military in order to prevent invasion by another country's military. — darthbarracuda

The saddest part of this truth is that so many of the countries that spend great quantities of money on military build ups instead of education and health have nothing that anyone would want to invade them for, and no neighbors capable of invasion.

The major powers now have so much invested in war preparation that it would be a financial disaster to have to close all of the research, and production centers.

With today's technology it is possible to detect any kind of force planning an invasion of any of the major countries in the world, so a surprise "Red Dawn" invasion is extremely doubtful. Knowing this and knowing that the people of the good old US of A are armed to the teeth, who the hell would risk sending troops in?

Until someone finds a way of decimating whole armies with blood big death rays from space there are going to be people that insist on spending money for soldiers to do their bidding and die doing it. And maybe even then the race will continue to find ways of make bigger ray guns that can eliminate the other guys.

If you want to stop wars I say that we should just shoot all of the politicians so that there will be no one to start them.

Start with a good dictionary and then any and every book you can find.

None of this will help you to live your life though. The simple fact that no one is living your life means that no one can help you to live it.

If you want to live the good life you will first have to define what it will be like. Only then then can you start looking for information to help you reach your goals.

And if you are really looking for advice, don't waste your money on books about how to live the good life. That will only help the person that wrote it live a good one.

Err? :chin: Got to think about that for a while.

No. You only have to go backwards until the place you departed from your plan and then continue forward along the original route.

I think so anyway, not really sure. :smile:

Instead of turning around, I think I would just go into reverse.

To the left or right? Or maybe all the way around? :chin:

https://www.uexpress.com/go-comics?amu=/nonsequitur/2018/07/07

OK, that is one problem solved.

You can still down shift, but it is not as effective.

A guy I know almost killed himself in Mexico towing a boat, he did not know that you can lock an automatic truck in first gear to go downhill. Actually shit himself and had to stop to reline the brakes he burned out.

That happened to me in a jeep a few years ago.

Quick down shift and then into the low speed gears got the speed down enough for the hand brake to stop. That is why I would never own an automatic vehicle.

I have no idea what my last word will b............

Just save some for later. :confused: — Posty McPostface

How do you know there will be a later?

Of course you can, there is nothing better than cake with creamy ice cream on top.

Give up, I am going to have the last word. At least today.

Cheesy cheesecake!!!!!!!!!!!!

With strawberry jam on top.

:love: :love:

Cake!

The Thread can't DIE! — Waya

These threads never die, they continue into eternal Nirvana. :cool:

Burger!

I have 2 ex wives and 4 ex children, and I cannot even try to imagine what Nietzsche, Kant, Schopenhauer might have to say about it.

Some of the things that an ex can get away with are incredible.

Does this parable apply to groups who have been injured by the policies of others? — Bitter Crank

Yes, it certainly does. There are so many groups that have been damaged by both ignorant political policies and biased religious stupidity.

And most of the time it is only the innocent that suffer the consequences.

A girl goes to the beach with her family and takes photos walking on along the shore with her dad to upload to farcebook. Everyone criticizes her for hanging on to daddy when there are a bunch of hunks in the background.

She takes some photos of herself with a couple of the hunks and herself in a very skimpy bikini. Everyone screams that she is acting indecently wearing that bikini in front of her family and flirting with people she does not know.

She puts clothes back on to cover up and takes a photo to upload. Everyone jumps all over her saying she looks stupid because she is supposed to be enjoying the sun on the beach.

She lifts her middle finger to the camera and uploads the final pic.
Caption
"I now understand that it is impossible to make everyone happy on farcebook, so I am not even going to try.
Screw the lot of you."

Awe, shucks!
What a shame.

It's Alfred North Whitehead, of course, — InternetStranger

I wondered why I had not heard it before, because that is not what was said. Again you have quoted incorrectly.

"The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato. I do not mean the systematic scheme of thought which scholars have doubtfully extracted from his writings. I allude to the wealth of general ideas scattered through them. His personal endowments, his wide opportunities for experience at a great period of civilization, his inheritance of an intellectual tradition not yet stiffened by excessive systematization, have made his writing an inexhaustible mine of suggestion. ... "

Slightly less obvious is that Plato was the great synthesizer of the early Greeks, the first to bring it all together, and, more importantly perhaps, the first philosopher that we have more or less in his total output. — InternetStranger

It is also pretty well known that a lot of the work that has been attributed to Plato was not actually written by him but was attributed to him because the author was unknown and the style of writing was similar to his.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/academy/

From the above link, but also available through other sources.

"Sextus Empiricus enumerates five divisions of the followers of Plato. He makes Plato founder of the first Academy, Aresilaus of the second, Carneades of the third, Philo and Charmides of the fourth, Antiochus of the fifth. Cicero recognizes only two Academies, the Old and the New, and makes the latter commence as above with Arcesilaus. In enumerating those of the old Academy, he begins, not with Plato, but Democritus, and gives them in the following order: Democritus, Anaxagoras, Empedocles, Parmenides, Xenophanes, Socrates, Plato, Speusippus, Xenocrates, Polemo, Crates, and Crantor. In the New, or Younger, he mentions Arcesilaus, Lacydes, Evander, Hegesinus, Carneades, Clitomachus, and Philo (Acad. Quaest. iv. 5). If we follow the distinction laid down by Diogenes, and alluded to above, the Old Academy will consist of those followers of Plato who taught the doctrine of their master without mixture or corruption; the Middle will embrace those who, by certain innovations in the manner of philosophizing, in some measure receded from the Platonic system without entirely deserting it; while the New will begin with those who relinquished the more questionable tenets of Arcesilaus, and restored, in come measure, the declining reputation of the Platonic school."

This might interest you as well, although I doubt that what it says really shows that his model of education is used much today.
http://infed.org/mobi/plato-on-education/

Recall the famous word concerning Plato — InternetStranger

No, I don't recall ever hearing that. Do you have a link to the source?

It was the model for the West. Greater familiarity with the great thinkers of the west is the best way to prove this to yourself. — InternetStranger

Try doing some reading yourself. Academy comes from the name of the place where Plato taught. I have not seen many classes being given in public gardens.

"the classical Academy," properly the name of the public garden where Plato taught his school, "
https://www.etymonline.com/word/academy?ref=etymonline_crossreference

The fact that the word was later adopted to mean schools does is not the equivalent of "meaning" Plato's academy. And as the link I gave pointed out, it was mostly used for theoretical studies not practical research.

Lyceum has a more profound affect on people today, that was where Aristotle taught.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/lyceum?ref=etymonline_crossreference

Remember, the word academic means Plato's Academy, — InternetStranger

Wrong, it does not.
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=academic+

And his was not the first Acadēmicus either. Just because its common modern used goes back to him does not mean that he came up with the idea of academies.

which is the bowels of all universities on the earth, and all their research programs. — InternetStranger

Which is sort of like calling universities shit.

Questioning is human. — InternetStranger

If you count inquisitive as questioning, I have a very philosophical 3 month old pup. She has toured the house, poked at, bitten at, licked, and rubbed against every single thing she can reach to find the best place to take a nap. That was some serious dog style questioning.

Some people want the glory of being called philosopher but they don't want to put in the hard work to get there. — Jeremiah

Right.
As I said earlier, most people don't want to work that hard. Why should they question things that will bring them no benefit?

Lots of people do some philosophic text reading and then quote pieces of them as if they are gospel, and call themselves philosophers. Most of the time without fully understanding the meaning of what they read. A call to some authority of something is all ways right they think.

You're a fine rhetorician.

You have a cheep debating tactic. — InternetStranger

Pot kettle, kettle pot? I don't remember but I am sure you get the idea.