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  • PSA: We should not assume words at face value in philosophy.
    So in this regard you can use outstanding to describe something negative that stands out like: This pack of cookies has an outstanding cookie because it is broken unlike the rest.Tiberiusmoon

    Never in my life have I herd that used in that way. Where do you live?

    Why this is important in philosophy is so that we can reduce misinterpritations/misunderstandings in the philosophies we read/write or discuss.Tiberiusmoon

    That is why it is always advisable to specify while writing your posts here which of the meanings of a word you have intended.
  • You are probably an aggravating person
    Admit it. Consensus is your enemy. Smugness is your friend.schopenhauer1

    Who cares? Or is that being snug? :wink:
  • Evolution and awareness
    1. If our faculties of awareness are wholly the product of unguided evolutionary forces, then they do not give us an awareness of anythingBartricks

    You have failed to address how being aware of a pie being in the oven is connected to evolution. Surely when humans began their development there were no pies nor ovens. But the early humans did look at the clouds for messages.

    And what does awareness have to do with knowledge. What we are aware of is not allows truth, that is a fact. But if we are not aware of something, then it cannot be knowledge.
  • The River
    Who can discern your sincerity!Nils Loc

    Err. you have my word as a gentleman on it.

    You must sit quietly and observe your breath, the bellows rhythm of your respirationNils Loc

    It's 9pm, and about 30 degrees, I can only observe my breath that if I sit in the refrigerator. Bollocks to that.

    Know that you are one with the dancing bear.Nils Loc

    Hope he can do better than me, I have not been able to dance for many years.
  • The River
    An innocent mind must be properly conditioned to listen in order to perform for the benefit of other innocent minds.Nils Loc

    But would a conditioned mind still be innocent?
  • A metric for ousting members by the moderators
    Maybe it would be wiser to spend the time showing the wankers the error of their ways instead of trying to work out if they should be allowed to stay or not.
  • The Last Word
    Not sure which ones.ArguingWAristotleTiff

    Maybe we should start a support group, I don't even remember which ones I miss most. :worry:
  • The Last Word
    That's right buzz off. :roll:
  • The Last Word
    Who are you shushing? I have a fly swat here, be careful. :lol:
  • The Last Word
    And as the saying goes, "ya can't ave one widout de udder"

    :lol:
  • The Last Word
    Sucks, as much as god.
  • Is There Objective Truth in Film Criticism?
    Then I would have to say that Emmanuelle would easily top that and leave you a little hot under the collar.
  • Is There Objective Truth in Film Criticism?
    You could be right about that, I suppose.thewonder

    But then again, who's to say that Barbarella is not better than both.
  • Is There Objective Truth in Film Criticism?
    But Raiders of the Lost Ark is no were near as good Back to the Future. And I doubt that anyone can dispute this claim. :wink:
  • What is your perspective on the word: Reflection of self?
    Reflection of self is 3 words.

    But the phrase could mean many things.
    The thing I see in the mirror.
    The way I believe myself to be as opposed to the way others see me.
    The way I think about me.
  • The method of implicit learning
    I guess the instructor beat out the implicit learning xDTiberiusmoon

    Maybe, but I still would like to thank him for training people properly.
  • The method of implicit learning
    Do you think learning something implicitly and using said thing so oftern it can become an assumed common knowledge?Tiberiusmoon

    When I studied engineering, we had an instructor that almost beat it into us that the machines might all look the same and do the same thing but there are some differences. He told us to learn how to do the job but that we should always rely on the manuals for the details.
    During a workshop one of the guys broke a finger when the torque wrench slipped off a broken bolt. Before the guy could be taken to the hospital he got a roasting for not looking up the correct torque for the bolt because he assumed it was just like the ones he was used to working with everyday.

    I still blame that guy because I cannot remember phone numbers. "Look the numbers up in the book" he would tell us every time we started a job.
  • What Is The Definition Of A Real Woman
    There is no definition.
    Women are women, just accept it.

    The same as there are no definitions for a real man.

    Trying to state that this, that, and the other are the components of a real or normal person would leave no one fulfilling the role.
    Try this book, Normal Sucks by Jonathan Mooney. It actually uses the ideal of a normal woman as one of the examples he gives.
  • What was the last book you read?
    Normal Sucks by Jonathan Mooney
    The Elephant in the Brain by Kevin Simler and Robin Hanson
    English History Made Brief, Irreverent, and Pleasurable by Lacey Baldwin Smith
    How not to get rich, The Financial Misadventures of Mark Twain by Alan Crawford
  • Almost Famous Things
    The good old days when it was not necessary to sing about sex or wear almost nothing to be famous.
  • Almost Famous Things
    I got married to the widow next door. She's been married seven times beforeT Clark
    I think I heard the song. And it was famous.
  • Well...now what?
    Try "Sophie's World."T Clark

    A few more along that line.

    Breakfast with Socrates, Robert Rowland Smith was a good read.

    Aristotle and an Aardvark Go to Washington, Thomas Cathcart, Daniel Klein ,
    and
    Plato and a Platypus Walk Into a Bar, Thomas Cathcart. Both were worth reading just for the laughs, but are thought provoking as well.

    Plato at the Googleplex, Rebecca Goldstein Definitely worth reading.
  • The Ladder.
    And the question is?
  • What are you listening to right now?
    Just for a laugh, from when I was a kid and this was kind of risque.

  • Well...now what?
    When I listen to a lecture series where someone has mined through the works and explains them clearly, I can latch on and understand. However, when I engage with the works directly myself, I struggle to pull clear systematic information together.Mark Sparks

    That is the best way to get started, reading and listening to other experienced people's summaries and explanations. Then analyze and form your opinion about the work. Then try reading the work itself.

    Personally I would recommend starting with ethics or aesthetics if you have a choice about it. Then logic.
  • The Last Word
    I just wanted to start a band and be invited to a house party, though.thewonder

    Maybe that will happen in the next 2 million years or so.
  • On Bleak Humor
    As stated, I have no intention of posting this Demotivator and only came to wonder this after thinking about it.thewonder

    Maybe that was a good decision. I know that your intentions were not evil and my point was not supposed to be aggressive. It was just to point out that humor is usually a part of every group's value system, what actually counts as humor can be very different between different groups though.

    It's supposed to make light of the Absurd.thewonder

    The truth of your statement cannot be faulted, is not absurd. The fact that sometimes, no matter how hard you try, you are going to fail is an objective statement about the conditions in the world. To make jokes about the truth can be hurtful.

    Dark humor, mixing the distasteful with the funny, can be very entertaining. But it can also be disgusting to some. But most would be bothered by jokes about violence against others, unless of course the joke is about lawyers or politicians.

    As to whether someone would take your work and use it as a tool to promote "white power", I really cannot see how that would happen.
  • The Last Word
    Did she bug out?
  • On Bleak Humor
    So,

    "Sometimes your best just isn't good enough.", juxtaposed over an image of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.thewonder

    would not appear to mock anyone.

    Maybe it is a jab at the bosses that came up with the signs you mentioned, but they are a group. Thus you were, possibly unintentionally, mocking their way of thinking.
    A wild guess by any of them, might be that you consider them to be nazis.
  • On Bleak Humor
    The purpose of this thread is not to either defend or admonish this joke, but, rather to put to question as to whether or not humor can be too cynical or bleak.thewonder

    Much would depend upon your definition of humor.
    If you count humor as the ability to appreciate and express humorous things then jokes that are cynical would not usually be counted as funny, UNLESS it is also accepted that the mocking of others is acceptable. And we are not allowed to do that nowadays.
    Most adult jokes tend to make fun of others, a person or group, that are not part of the tellers in-group. And they do often to lean towards degrading them, either making them look stupid or abnormal in some way. But the funny thing is that most peoples have their own jokes that do exactly the same to the ones that tell jokes about them.

    Can anything be too cynical to be a joke? No, if something makes people laugh then it is not too cynical. But cross the tracks and see if they laugh on the other side.

    Should jokes be cynical? Not if they really do cause harm to people. Telling jokes about Jews is one thing, I learned a lot from an old Jewish friend. But telling jokes about the concentration camps is going a bit to far if it is meant to make the suffering of the people look funny.
    The old guy I knew actually told me a joke about one of those camps, but it was the Jews that made fools of the nazis in it.
  • The Perfect Food Is Grass
    What say you?TheMadFool

    If everyone turned into a grass eater:
    • Where would we all find our food?
    • How many acres of land would I need to have a decent supply of food?
    • What would I eat when there is 6 foot of snow on the ground?
    • What would the cost of maintaining a family be each month?

    Maybe there is a reason why it is being overlooked.
    Do you by any chance have a decent recipe book for this food?
  • The Last Word
    Or perhaps a Playmate?Pinprick

    That is a classic, I had not heard it in years.

    But just at the avatar, it's definitely a beetle.
  • The Last Word
    BeepLadybug

    Are you by chance a Volkswagon?
  • My rules of news
    Even simpler rule.
    Ignore the news mostly. Stick to science.

    Look at a general news site every day or two to make sure the world hasn't ended and Bob Dylan hasn't won the Nobel Prize in literature.

    Avoid stories that aggravate me.

    Generally stay away from politics. If I decide to read some, go to moderate conservative sources I trust. "American Conservative" is my favorite, although they got a little goofy during the election.

    Stay away from liberal sites. There's nothing more irritating than having to deal with people I'm supposed to agree with who are idiots.

    Use comment sections as a place to test my ability to be civil and look for common values with people I disagree with.
    T Clark

    Check.
    You should look more often.
    Check, especially the kartrashian type of stuff.
    Double check, nothing about anything political is interesting and is annoying.
    Triple check, the problem is that sometimes you have to read the article to discover that the writer is an idiot.
    No way. The comment sections are there for entertainment purposes. That is one of the best measurement of the decline of people's IQ. And the source of hours of laughter at the stupidity of the posts.
  • Type or stereotype?
    But what does stereotyping really say? It says that people look like who they are. In other words, that inner reality is accurately reflected by outer appearance.Pantagruel

    No it does not. Stereotyping is the process of assigning a "type" based upon a preconceived concept of the appearance, behavior and mannerisms of that type.

    In old movies, the bad guys nearly always wore black. It was the concept of what bad guys should look like.
    English people drink tea. When you go to a cafe or restaurant in some places around the world and ask for tea the waiter might ask you if you are from England. Even if you are Dutch you would have been stereotyped as English.

    In itself, this is not a bad thing.Pantagruel

    Yes it is. I had a friend with a slight lisp caused by a deformation of the tongue. He missed out on several good jobs that he was over qualified to do, because people thought de was either mentally ill or gay.

    Black lives matter did not appear because cops treat everyone equally either.
  • God and antinatalism
    Is anyone else playing Dunning-Kruger bingo?Isaac

    No thanks, it is amusing enough watching the kettle call the pot black ass.
  • God and antinatalism
    So you are not paid to teach. You just scream some 'teachings' at passers-by do you?Bartricks

    How did you deduce that from anything I said? That is screwed up I am not even going to try making sense of it.

    But yes, there is no requirement - certainly wasn't when I was appointed anyway - to have any formal teaching qualification in order to be able to teach in a university. Ask most academics - they don't have them. None of my colleagues do anyway. Perhaps we should hire you to come in and tell us how it's done?Bartricks

    Some fucked up place you live in them. In the civilized world you can lecture without an educational degree in some places, they are usually reserved for primary and secondary levels. But you usually have to have a Ph.D. and usually experience in the field.

    Ask most academics - they don't have them. None of my colleagues do anyway.Bartricks

    I did, and most of my colleagues have a masters degree.

    Just more about how whether x is compatible with y turns essentially on whether s exists.Bartricks

    Whether x is compatible with y is actually a moot question unless x exists. If x does not exist then it is not compatible with anything. Which is the point I think you have missed all along.

    Cookies are not compatible with milk unless there are actually cookies.
  • God and antinatalism
    You should have payed attention in English class.khaled

    Do you really think he ever took any?
  • God and antinatalism
    First - if you deserve something, it doesn't follow that it is permissible to give it to you.Bartricks

    Yes, you are right. We all deserve medals for putting up with your oral vomiting, but here at TPF it is not permitted to do such things.

    Rapists deserve to be taped.Bartricks

    I'll be charitable and presume you mean raped, unless there is some new kind of punishment of which I am not aware. But this is false. In some places it is called rape when an adult has consensual sex with a minor even if the adult was tricked into thinking that the other was also an adult.

    But even accepting what you state to be true as a fact, who would do the raping? Would that person also have to be punished in the same way?

    Simple point, well understood for millennia. You might want to learn it.Bartricks

    Again, actual no. It is only in recent times that it has become the practice of some societies to move away from the "eye for an eye" concept of punishment. And I say some because it is still practiced in a lot of places around the world.

    As a result it does not follow from us all deserving everything that happens to us that we are permitted to a anything to anyone.Bartricks

    Why would anyone with half a brain and a minimum of education think that we deserve everything that happens to us? The rest of the sentence makes no sense at all.

    Now, that's not relevant to this debate. So do try and focus.Bartricks

    Nothing is really relevant to this for the simple reason that it is not a debate. It is a tirade of unabashed bullshit from you followed by another tirade of unabashed insults from you whenever someone posts anything you disagree with. With is basically everything everyone has posted.

    Christ.Bartricks
    And why are you bring him into this. He would be a useless waste of time as well if humans snuffed themselves out.