Why create something new, when the old still works?Judging from those quotes, the stance is also old, and tired. Nothing new there. — Ciceronianus the White
I disagree.Personally, I tend to believe that society must urgently depoliticize itself and start taking a more holistic view of itself and of its problems. The interests of the whole, not of political factions or special interest groups must be made the primary concern. — Apollodorus
The Left, laid bare of its ideological façade wrapped about by theories on economics and sociology, is simply a means of dragging humanity down to the lowest denominator in the name of ‘equality’.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery’.
There are highly paid economists too, so... :wink:But hell, I'm paid an awful lot of money for my moronic guesswork so at least I've got something to cushion the blow... it's a wonder there's not more astrology consultants in the courts, corporations and civil service, they too could benefit from whatever mass deception I've inadvertently manged to weave. — Isaac
If you refer to the Studio system lead by Eastern European Jewish immigrants, that has changed. But still the industry that is based in the US exists, even if the films and series are made physically in other places.Hollywood and the studio system is long gone, as is that worldview. There are other systems and worldviews in operation. — Tom Storm
Did that actually stop?In the mid 20th century, most films were artful propaganda pieces — Tom Storm
It was YOU who brought up Nazism not me. — Apollodorus
Quick google searches are easy to do and then you can know where people come from.Well, I didn't know that and you can't really blame it on me, can you? — Apollodorus
I hope such questions could be discussed. But I think the Site guidelines ought to be noted:Or are you just upset that I started a discussion that's inconvenient to some people on the far left? — Apollodorus
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Those with a genuine interest in/curiosity about philosophy and the ability to express this in an intelligent way, and those who are willing to give their interlocutors a fair reading and not make unwarranted assumptions about their intentions (i.e. intelligent, interested and charitable posters).
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Kevin MacDonald (1994, 1998a, b) argues that Judaism is a “group evolutionary strategy.” According to his theory, Jews are genetically and culturally adapted to promote their own group interests at the expense of gentiles. Jewish genetic adaptations include high intelligence, conscientiousness, and ethnocentrism.
MacDonald’s (1998a) most influential book, The Culture of Critique (CofC), claims that several major twentieth-century intellectual and political movements—including Boasian anthropology, Freudianism, Frankfurt School critical theory, and multiculturalism—were designed to destabilize gentile civilization for the benefit of Jews. The movements, led by “strongly identified Jews,” attacked group identity among white gentiles while promoting separatism and ethnocentrism for Jews. They “pathologized” anti-Semitism in order to squelch resistance to Jewish control.
The book has nothing of that sort in it at all. Plus, it's been endorsed by psychology professors like Kevin MacDonald — Apollodorus
Of course Wikipedia might be part of the character assassination, but hmm...Kevin B. MacDonald (born January 24, 1944) is an American anti-semitic conspiracy theorist, white supremacist, neo-Nazi, and a retired professor of evolutionary psychology at California State University, Long Beach (CSULB).[1][2][3] In 2008, the CSULB academic senate voted to disassociate itself from MacDonald's work.[4]
Westerns are an excellent example how a genre simply creates it's own separate reality from the actual history. TV and film in Westerns have always just put historical costumes on contemporary people. You can easily notice the differences in Westerns done in the various decades.I think those films were exercises in stylization and were never meant to be taken at face value. The height of that stylization were then the Spaghetti Westerns. — baker
The distinction I draw between your question and the question of the OP is that your question asks how to deal with those who have stolen land whereas the OP asks how to deal with racists. Yours includes an actual act, whereas the the OP includes only a mindset. — Hanover
Lol. :lol:I'm all into the shift from post WW2 embedded liberalism to 80s neoliberalism. 70s stagflation was a critical ingredient. — frank
Springtime in Finland.Springtime in Finland? — frank

How ought a community deal with such a neighbor? — BitconnectCarlos
Why is “the Left” called “loony”? — Apollodorus
Well count my first responses in that category! Benkei, like in and others put me into line that this was something serious and I was downplaying the risks. Yet that was on page 4, so it wasn't yet the age of the official pandemic and lockdowns.I started reading this thread from the beginning. Some posts have not aged well. — James Riley
Yes.Yes, part of the myth.
Is that a good thing? — Banno
That the Americans don't start thinking you are showing them the finger and starting hating you as the do the French. (Remember "Freedom fries")So, being utilitarian for a change, what benefit accrued to Australia form our involvement there? — Banno


I think this goes to the heart of the matter. It's the historical narrative that we use to define our tradition that makes us view things like this. And usually that accepted narrative, "The Greeks - the Renaissance thinkers - the Enlightenment philosophers - etc" simply doesn't recall the role of any other traditions. Anything outside that is seen as unimportant.As Possibility pointed out, in the context of a global culture, it distinguishes the European philosophical tradition, commencing with Greek Philosophy, from Chinese, Indian, and other cultures who have corresponding activities that can be reasonably designated 'philosophy', even if that is not a word that is native to their cultures. — Wayfarer
If you think that Europe had the Roman Empire before in Antiquity, it isn't. at all.This is historically backwards. — Maw
So modern social democracy is the problem? For part of the left social democracy isn't socialism, yet I think it's been the most successful part of the broader leftist movement. And they are OK with capitalism.I'm simply saying that, contra Bitter Crank, we shouldn't separate Democracy under politics and Socialism under economics. — Maw

But I would disagree with Bitter Crank in regards to the a priori contrast between democracy as a political system and socialism as an economic system. We know such a contrast was untrue for Feudalism, a social system whereby political elites obtained economic surplus by appropriating from the peasantry. This is an integration of the economic and political. — Maw
There is an interesting debate to be had between democracy and capitalism and socialism but we won't find it here. — Maw
But it is a mistake to oppose democracy and socialism: the former is a political system, the second is an economic system. Democracy is better contrasted to totalitarianism, and socialism is better contrasted to capitalism. — Bitter Crank
Hyperinflation is basically the universal distrust in a currency being a store of value: people may need to use it, but know it's basically worthless. That the supply of a cryptocurrency is limited isn't a reason why the trust in the currency being a store of value couldn't be shaken too. Simply put it, both with a fiat currency and a cryptocurrency there has to be people who think it's worth it's price as payment and willing to trade or exchange it to something else.My point was that while something like bitcoin is in and of itself immune to inflation, it's not decoupled from the monetary system as a whole, which today is global and, as you say, everything affects everything. — Echarmion
The Swiss franc has had this role of being a "safe haven" currency, but naturally as the country is small there aren't so many Swiss franc going around.Did this have anything to do with the swiss economy / banking sector or was it merely the perception that the Swiss franc was "safe" because of the reputation of the swiss banking sector? — Echarmion
As a small open economy, Switzerland is highly exposed to external disruptions. Exchange rate movements in particular exert a major influence on inflation and economic activity in our country.
A further characteristic of Switzerland is that the Swiss franc, as a safe-haven currency, tends to appreciate when global risk sentiment deteriorates. In recent years, a number of crises – notably the global financial crisis and the European sovereign debt crisis – have led to appreciations of the franc. What does the strong influence of developments abroad on inflation in our country mean for our monetary policy? It means that inflation can be controlled with even less precision than in the large currency areas. It is not possible – or only with disproportionate use of monetary policy instruments and correspondingly marked side effects – to always fully offset spillovers from abroad.
As I said, bit off from actual monetary policy. But I guess what is considered and accepted as money is monetary policy in the broader sense.Those have nothing to do with "monetary policy" the way I understand it — Echarmion
Those measures start from what is legal tender.And governments cannot practically suppress currencies without some very draconian measures (which would also work against bitcoin) anyways. — Echarmion
Oh you would prefer 18th Century style dealings where your employer would pay your salary with his own currency, which you can use in your employers shops?That seems pretty much strictly negative from a social point of view. — Echarmion
Well, the structure how it uses a peer-to-peer network and blockchain might be things on the plus side to it.I'd argue it's not an investment in the traditional sense at all. It's purely speculative with no commodification attached. — Echarmion
Likely it's the Western Central banks that may look at this.Possible, but bitcoin is already pretty well established. Though the chinese government will certainly be able to do something like this. — Echarmion
Monetary policy of the US doesn't directly affect the purchasing power of EUR in Europe though. — Benkei
Not directly, but the effects will travel through the interconnected real economy to the EU regardless. — Echarmion
Ok, explain the mechanism to me how monetary policy in the US affects the price of buying milk in the Netherlands. If you can say this with such conviction you certainly have this figured out. — Benkei
There isn't one precise mechanism, but e.g. a loose money policy leads to more money going into speculative investments like futures, which affect global pricing / supply and demand. So if feed prices go up due to futures, the cost of producing milk goes up globally, affecting milk prices in the Netherlands. — Echarmion

The "monetary policy" in Bitcoin is a) do governments allow it or not and b) do those using it believe in it's value or not. There's no government able to tax it's citizens behind it or any physical aspects that metals have. Bit off from what monetary policy currently is.I don't really see the connection. Monetary policy affects bitcoin just as well, regardless of the "alternative" label. It's after all a big part of the reason it's market value is so high. — Echarmion
When philosophers (or should we be more precise people who are interested in philosophy) are talking about investments, that is a sign for me. Basically this thread is active when the prices are high. A time to buy is when this thread hasn't been active for 6 months.This thread's activity probably isn't a good index for tracking bitcoin's value. The thread was last active, save a handful of posts, around 6 months ago before it went up all that much. It was silent during most of the steepest rises. — csalisbury

Regarding the second part - as I've said from the get-go, I freely admit that I - like everyone on this forum - is not qualified to judge Weinstein's work. — csalisbury
Nobody does. Weinstein won't publish. — fishfry
I'm not sure which of the two brothers caught fame first, but at least Bret Weinstein was dragged unwittingly into the public eye with the incredible events in an unknown university, who otherwise would have stayed as an total unknown.I agree with your analysis in general, but I don't think that analysis applies to Weinstein. He isn't someone in academia who's been unwittingly dragged into the public eye, and so unfairly dunked-on. Rather he's someone who quite intentionally courts public attention, in the mode of provocateur, and tends to do so rather than engage in academia - for instance, his infamous dismissal of peer-review and so forth. — csalisbury
Again, I don't know the math or science, so I can't appraise him on anything but the indirect - but this feels an awful lot to me like symptoms of something like a personality disorder - intense grandiosity + a kind of disavowed shadow self that almost perversely projects stuff onto the outside (fitting the grandiosity, he doesn't project onto others, but onto the world.) Again: He has the key to restoring phsyics and America; without the key, we have EGOS that made people fake growth and become pathological. It's so on the nose, that it's surreal. It's like he's got some kind of perverse subconscious imp. — csalisbury
