California to Oregon used to be Mexican, besides Texas. Of course much of California was like the Baja California then and not many people besides native Americans lived their. — ssu
It's not as if "San Francisco", "San Diego" or "El Paso" are English names, afer all. — Manuel
. The big loser in terms of strategic outcome here is Ukraine. — Baden
Nothing to do with me. — Baden
Londongrad + Manhattangrad = Absurdistan! :fire:
"When after all
It was you and me ..." — 180 Proof
Long term, around 2100, I wouldn't be totally shocked by these borders. Mandate of heaven indeed. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Getting weird — Noble Dust
this "blame NATO" game is being played all over the interwebs and in traditional media as well. — Olivier5