Arggh the house we were looking at, the third one I have fallen in love with and did a connectivity test and it fails. :’( This so reminds me of dating, meet the guy, think he is perfect, do a walk through, get an inspection and then find out there are fundamental flaws that cannot be bridged.
Weeping....I am so over reacting but I am ssssssssssssssssssssssssso bummed!
The search goes on....

So, how has your family's views on race played out over time in your life? You don't evince prejudicial racial talk, ideas, and so on. — Bitter Crank

Life changed the views for our parents and I never had to face a black person until we moved out to Arizona. The life altering event for my parents was when my Granny needed to go into a nursing home in Chicago. Even though it was an old German Nursing home, most of the employees were black and the way in which they cared for my Granny after many long, tough years of caring for her advanced early onset Alzheimer's at home impressed my Grampa beyond skin color. And much like in the day I was raised, as went the Grands so goes the children. My parents attitude towards their racist traits began to fade and I believe they are all but gone, except for the life long impression they left on their children, me and my siblings.

The first time I ever spoke about my racist home was with a fellow counselor at the Boy's Club who happened to be black. We were in charge of the recreation room at the time, signing out 4 Square balls and beating the snarky kids at Fooseball WHILE getting paid to do so. ;) We were sitting on the desk, twirling our whistles and he noticed I was looking at his hair and not his eyes when I was listening to him talk and it must not have been the first time he encountered it because he said "Do you want to touch it?" I was SHOCKED that he caught me and said "Touch what?" To which he said "My hair". I was blown away and said yeah I kind of do and reached over and did so. Then he asked what I thought which took us down a path of my confessing to him, the shame I felt being raised the way that I had been, thinking that the color of another person's skin could be a factor was always confusing to me because I am of Italian decent and have the olive skin and dark hair just like the rest of my family but definitely different than my good friend Victoria Palowski, who was white as the underbelly of a fish and a family that didn't even speak English but was somehow okay to be around.

Today? I don't care what color anyone is as long as they are respectful to others own journey in life, including yours and mine. If they can't handle that level of respect? Then we best go our separate ways.

You too are a beautiful person. (L)

Yes. With my daughter. — T Clark

What an awesome event to attend together!
And btw you are a very good looking gentleman. Don't sell yourself short! ;)

Unity March?

It seems obvious and intuitive that when people are repeatedly exposed to hate speech, extreme political, racist or sexist views, or violent drama, and pornography, over time that they would slowly adopt these views or accept the depicted behavior as normal and/or appropriate. — Bitter Crank

I am not so sure that we become desensitized as easily as I think you are suggesting but maybe I am wrong because I have been called "sheltered, naïve" by more than one person in my life. I know that for me, even though I was raised in a very strict, racist home, we were never forewarned or threatened if we were to become friends with or bring home someone who was gay, like we were if the person was black. My siblings and I were told clearly, loudly and repeatedly that if we were to chose to bring home a black person we would be disowned by the family so none of us would dare but that warning was never issued for a gay person. Then we moved out to Arizona where homo sexuality has not only been accepted and respected but celebrated so I didn't realize that our level of acceptance of all was different than in other parts of the USA, it just never occurred to me.

Over the course of 5 years Minneapolis and St. Paul witnessed several extremely violent attacks on gay men resulting in their deaths. — Bitter Crank

When was this 5 year time frame?

@Caldwell
It is soo good to see your name pop up as joining!
Welcome and I know you will see a lot of old friends happy to have you here!
Warmest wishes,
Tiff

"He's a dimwitted, scatter-brained, ignorant, venal, vulgar, petty, mean, prick of a man. Such people will say such things. We were stupid enough to elect him, knowing what he is. We get what we deserve."
-Ciceronianus the White

Prince "Bailey" Von Riesig

As a Mother I would suggest not within ear shot. I would say you should ask Timmy about it but Timmy is in the well at the moment. lololol

If BC does not flag this reply, moderators kindly please delete, thank you.

Happy, Happy, Happy Day, I am getting to go away! (Y)
Not till Tuesday but up to my girlfriends cabin in the mountains and THIS time I get to drive MY own car instead of taking the Casino bus. Woot Woot!! 8-)

I think that got him into a bit of a situation where he agreed to support a clean DACA bill because he was talking to a Democrat and he needed the Republicans to stop him and remind him what his position should be. Quite laughable. — Michael

That was a brilliant move on the Republican's part to jump in when they did but you could see that Trump wanted to agree with what seems right rather than play the teams position. It is during those times that I wish he would choose to be a one term president and just blow this team bs out of the water.

I'm listening to conservative talk radio and they're saying that Trump is not racist because he was only referring to the country not the people. — Purple Pond

I was reading an NPR story about how Norway immigrating to the USA back in 1870 and the impact it has had on both the USA and Norway and how it helped both nations.
"In other words, they shared a lot in common with many of today's immigrants from ... El Salvador, Haiti and Africa."

No. Just that there doesn't seem a good justification for seemingly racist remarks like “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here? We should have more people from places like Norway.” — Michael

I think one possible explanation as to why Trump chose folks from Norway is because he had Norway on the brain. Trump is not unlike some people, who have immersed themselves in the last person they interacted with that leaves a lasting enough impression (a couple hours) that everything that immediately follows is measured against that impression.

Why do they call it "pre-menstrual syndrome"?
Because "mad cow" was already taken. — Bitter Crank

:-O

Me: Are you fun?
Her: Yes
Me: Adventurous?
Her: Yes
Me: Show me
Her: How?
Me: Kiss me — Michael

If I was single and I was approached with these exact words I would have one of three responses depending on the level of attraction:
1) Oo you do have good moves but Thank you I am not interested. Sweet smile~
2) I would kiss him and continue on with conversation. Coy smile with intrigued eyes~
3) I would ask him where he wanted me to kiss him. Lick of the lips and sultry drop in the eyes~

Does that help? Non-verbal communication can be misconstrued but coupled with verbal confirmation it can still be very flirty and it seems like both parties can figure out what is being said.

I love photography both amateur and professional but this man, Sean Parker, takes some of the most amazing pictures of where he goes and also offers small groups to take up there to photograph as well. He says it's a magical place, I can only imagine and go with him in my dreams~

But permission for what? All forms of physical contact, anything which could possibly be construed as a sexual advance? That's the question that no-one seems to want to answer. I can't think anyone other than a sociopath would deliberately want to make someone else really uncomfortable, and I can guarantee you that sociopaths are not going to be following the MeToo debate and seriously considering changing their behaviour as a result, they're going to completely ignore it as they have completely ignored social convention in all other fields. Someone like Harvey Weinstein is not listening, So to whom are we addressing these concerns? The people who are listening are ordinary men who have, at least, a moderate amount of concern for the welfare of their fellow humans, and much of what has been said has thrown them into a moral quagmire. — Pseudonym

I beg to differ with you in that someone like Harvey Weinstein is not listening because as of yesterday, Harvey Weinstein who is seeking "help" up the road from our ranch got slapped across the face by a fellow male customer at the establishment so the non verbal communication is blunt and clear.

Whose concerns are we addressing? Well mine as a female if I get to express it. I thought as a grown woman with a family that I would be able to fend off an unwanted sexual advances yet in the life of this thread alone, I have encountered another situation where I felt pressured. I am not a weak woman and yet I found myself feeling vulnerable to what was happening. It wasn't until I was able to talk here that I was reminded that there is a time for grace and a time to not be graceful and yes sometimes it takes reflection to figure out how to handle it in the future.

So how did you get hold of my hand without asking me first? Are hands excepted from this no touching rule? If so, why not backs, knees and arms (all of which have been cited by highly publicised MeToo accusations). If you have a reason for allowing hands but dismissing backs, knees and arms, how are you arriving at that reason and justifying it's imposition on all other humans on pain of public humiliation? — Pseudonym

How did my hands get ahold of yours without asking you first?

Gosh, I wish I could say that I have encountered that but I haven't. I have always been the one sliding the hands of males back to neutral zones such as the shoulder, the cheek, the hips, the waist or the knee. I can only think of one guy that asked if he could hold my hand and I was swept off my feet but it was also in the 8th grade on a field trip.

I have no problem with us , as a culture, having a discussion about what we find to be acceptable, and trying to find solutions which minimise the harm done to people who feel uncomfortable whilst still allowing those who do not the freedom to express themselves. The problem with MeToo is that this is not a conversation. It is a particular group, largely of one gender, at one particular moment in time suggesting that some behaviours not only are universally unwanted, but always have been and men should have known better. — Pseudonym

There is a spectrum and not all of them are Harvey Weinstein's but he is an extreme which is what most movements start with, an extreme. I don't think that it is fair to treat all the 'trespasses' the same but understand that many people that have experienced sexual harassment/ sexual abuse haven't really worked through what they have been hiding in not speaking up sooner about such trespasses.
Hopefully we can learn together, that way men know the boundaries and women know how to speak up to make it clear and give consent.

I realize as I read what I have written how backward this all seems to be moving but in the era of PC, it is about the best we can do.

Svínafellsjökull behind Hotel Skaftafel photo by: Sean Parker

Okay, back to the hanging chad. (Y)

That GDAX board sure is addictive! I don't trust the exchanges with serious money. But I have a little play money in there and the past few nights I spend way to much time watching the green and orange candlesticks fight it out on the Litecoin chart on GDAX.

You know, if we could see all this from twenty years in the future, a lot of things would be completely obvious. And the clues were here all the time. But in the present we can't see what's true and what will last.

Perhaps this is the start of a philosophical view. What things last? What things pass? If we think from that point of view, can we figure out how to intelligently deploy our assets in the crypto revolution to come?

I think the current wild west environment is fun to watch but nothing I'd recommend that anyone spend any serious money in. One week it's bitcoin then it's bcash then it's ripple and now it's ethereum. If anyone could figure out what the hysterical dumb crowd is going to do ahead of everyone else, you could surf that wave and make money.

But who can predict the actions of the raving crowd? "I can calculate the motions of the heavens, but not the madness of people." -- Isaac Newton, after losing his fortune in the South Sea Island bubble of 1720. — fishfry

So addictive! When I go to bed at night it is usually just about to hit it's high for the 12 hr period and then when I wake up it drops down and levels out to new base trading price for that day.

As far as what is to come? Good Heavens. My eldest Indian has almost .5 of an Ethereum coin. He bought in when it's high was $420.00 for the first .25 of the coin and then bought the second .25 coin at $1,200.00 (ouch!). My youngest Indian is back at college mining away with 2 towers in the room, sending 17 hr print jobs to their 2 3D printers in the two person dorm room, in addition to the lap tops they use for class.

NicK woke up with an awesome idea of using the block chain application, for government voting that could be in the form of an app and bounced it off my youngest and he said "yep, it's one of the sample applications of block chain's possibility". Bless NicK's heart but I think this is for our off springs generation to create, explore, implement, support and standardize. I was inspired to hear my youngest Indian say that had he invested X$ at the time he bought in at $460.00, he would likely be able to pay his annual tuition at school, at the end of this semester. I keep reigning them in reminding them both, along with myself, that never invest what you cannot loose.

It's really hard though when I see it go up to $1,300.00 and not SELL at least the profit margin on my original $960.00 buy in price. Do you have a digital wallet?

Exactly, so men looking to attract a particular type of woman are going to attempt to display confidence (including sexual confidence) in order to make themselves seem attractive. — Pseudonym

Which most men or women do not have an issue with. It becomes an issue when that man "looking to attract a particular type of woman" lays his hands on my body without permission, nonverbal or verbal. The difference between the two is non-verbal MY hand moving yours on MY body and verbal permission such as asking for a kiss.

I like a confident man, I like a strong friendly hug and I have friends who are not my husband that put their arm around me in restaurant or on the boat but they are friends, friends for decades not someone I just met. By nature I am a "huggy" person and when working in the medical field, I was always open to hugging my patients, did it then and would do it now, even if the employee manual required me to get permission from the patient first. See because if someone really wants to touch you? They will laugh at the permission slip they would have to sign and think back to permission slips for field trips back in grammar school, that their PARENTS had to sign, as they signed it themselves.

There is a question asking "Is it better to ask for permission first or ask for forgiveness later?"
I would say society has made it clear to do the former rather than the latter.

My profits are down from a few days ago, but I've still more than doubled what I put in, so there's that. — Michael

Hell yeah there is that! I am so excited about this new form of currency, a new form of anything to bring our world closer and every one's value is the same.

NicK was telling me about the Myans using sticks with notches in it for currency so how far out could block chain currency be?

Ps. I realize that this will come as a shock but I really do wish we as a world could all be one happy family~ sheps said I have a Utopian view on life and a romantic view on fire arms. Where is that sheps anyway?

To learn the Ukulele? (Y)

Two days later it is up to $1,216.94 !!!!!!
I wanted to take out my original investment but NicK is saying let it ride...

If you like something that someone says, tell them. — JustSomeGuy

Very wise words.

@Pseudonym
Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
Enjoy your stay~

@Cynical Eye
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@JupiterJess
Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!

She is still here. Working on month 3. :-O

NicK and I met in the woods that look over the Oak Creek Canyon in Sedona, which is where we were married 4 yrs later. My parents believed and I believed in a 4 yr engagement which was satisfied and we have been going ever since.


Ever wonder what it looked like to live back in the Hay Day!


Hell Freezes Over at the Ranch

@Abdul
Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!

So yesterday my youngest Indian came into our home office and offered to both NicK and I to purchase part of the Ethereum coin he holds and of course I jumped at the chance and am just giddy about it. So we paid him $240.00 in a regular bank transfer and began to watch the GDAX board and it was $995.00 when the money transferred hands. Since I have been watching it I am excited about the movement!!!



It's too hard to see but it is up to $1070.00 this morning. (Y)

Wow, really? — Marchesk

Situational answer?

Why don't you wish for aging to be solved? — ProgrammingGodJordan

Because at the age of 47 I am pretty sure one normal lifetime will be enough for me.

Hiya Stefanog! I followed the link to find out more information on the "game of soup" and downloaded the article about the students who made the this interactive 'reality'. Then I went to the first link to see how to play the game and I am curious as to play it but I think maybe @Banno and @unenlightened might be the best suited to play the game. Let's see what happens!

I) Solve many problems, including aging, death, etc.
Reference A: For eg, ai can already do this: "Self-taught artificial intelligence beats doctors at predicting heart attacks"
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/self-taught-artificial-intelligence-beats-doctors-predicting-heart-attacks — ProgrammingGodJordan

Please, don't solve the aging and death cycle with AGI, not for me, maybe for you but definitely not for humanity.

@Ian
Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!

Council advises that I not discuss the cases publicly until after litigation — praxis

Please explain this cryptic comment

Point is: dealing with the 'lower head' is not as easy as it may seem. — praxis

Wow. If that is what your "Point" has been all along why not just say that about your own experiences?