Forums? — Agustino

Forgive my error, I have edited the name to reflect the right place and will gracefully bow out of this conversation. Rarely are two cents wanted or needed.

Baden, I remember some beautiful photos of Cambodia at the old place, were they yours?

How did they find out? — BlueBanana

Mmmmmm Smoothies!

Sirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! I thought I saw you online and I need to tell you I am lost in Mexico and need you to send me a ride to your place! A cab, an Uber a freakin burro for all I care! I just want that cold one you have chilling for me.

Eating is overrated. — BlueBanana

Your saying that because you are a Banana!
Fear the fork! >:)

Just my two cents:

Welcome to The Philosophy Forum TimeLine!
Men happen to notice when a female comes onto the boards but very few women last. Not because women are incapable of discussing Philosophy but because in addition learning the tools of debate, pondering, explaining and substantiating your personal position, you come across an underpinning of 'objectification' of women that can and does exist in all of us, both female and male, just to different degrees.

Agustino, I clearly remember how excited I was at the old sandbox when I first arrived and if memory serves me well, you wrote a bit more back then too. Everyone starts on the forums with their own experiences to draw on and maybe some reading or classes that has wet their appetite to pursue wisdom, just like the rest of us. But there is a degree of personal vulnerability, that we have to expose in order for us to learn from one another here on the forums. I know this from my own experience and how many beautiful friendships I have gained in allowing myself to be vulnerable, opening up about some things I had never shared with another soul in face to face life. All I can ask is that you allow females to be females when it comes to finding a comfort level of interaction on the boards. As my signature carried in the old sandbox: Relax, this is a safe place. which is often necessary for a female to share.

Anyway, that is my two cents that neither of you asked for and if I could get my change, I will be going now.

I need to go cook dinner but cooking in 110* is just insanely hot so I am doing it bar-b-que style but I doubt anyone will notice the heat from the grill. 8-)

Hanover this is Dinner

Maybe. I know it isn't 9, because 789. — Sapientia

That would be a logical conclusion but then again there is 007. So maybe it is seven?

Sorry, I have bad memory. — BlueBanana

Aww that's okay, I can remind you....
what was it you needed to be reminded of? :-}

7 — Sapientia

I thought it was 8? Like 8" :P

Is it possible to subscribe to a thread in these forums? If not, why? — BlueBanana

No, there is no subscribing to a thread in these forums and why not? Because as I said before "There is nothing to see here." 8-)

Your bromance is appealing, but alas my preference has always been a backyard wedding with a handful of people and a cake I bake myself. And lots of fairy lights — TimeLine

What kind of cake? Carrot Cake with Cream Cheese frosting? And I am a sucker for fairy lights. I do hire myself to be a Rottie on lead for the bride but I doubt you will be in need of that. ;)

I'm in the burbs. There's a pizza delivery store every 10 feet. — Hanover

What about Chinese delivery?

Love the place, could feel very much at home, until I saw the chow and I do hope that is Fido's plate because that looks well.....is there a Pizza place that delivers in Atlanta?

Make a statement when no one attached to this thread is on the forum so that it may go unnoticed and ill have the last word. — TimeLine

It's been tried but there are a few folks that have been playing this game with Hanover for over a decade so it can be tried but not likely to succeed.
Speaking of succession: I have it noted in my living will that a representative of me will continue posting on this one thread, long after I have gone to the after 'thinkers' sandbox.
Face it, I win and that is the last word.

Excuse me, what is this thread? — BlueBanana

Nothing to see here. 8-)

Were we to devise new insults and use fruits and vegetables for slurs, which ones would we use?

So and so is such a __________________ for females, __________________ for males.
What a pile of compost!
You are a melonkopf.
You, Senator, are a rotten, stinking potato. (potatoes stink when they rot)
If you want to pass as a vegetable, you'll have to tone that fruitiness down.
Top banana
You don't amount to a hill of beans (about 3 beans)
A pain in the asparagus — Bitter Crank

No, no, no. My mind went to a completely different idea of fill in the blanks. I will delete my vegetable reference since it was an error.

.word

There is therefore a 67% (2/3) chance that my statement was correct. That's how it works. — Hanover

Does it always have to come down to numbers?

I think it is a breath of fresh air and maybe an indicator as to some progress we may have made in decreasing the use of what many would consider derogatory references even if they may be completely accurate.
Example: W.A.S.P., Dago, JAP

I must respectfully bow out as I need to go inventory ugggg
Have a good day Agustino~ I enjoyed our debate

Agustino, You need to slow down on your edits to your posts otherwise my responses appear obscure.

why do you need to "bring the reality" to it? — Agustino

Because there are people in this world, one that I have been interacting with for the last hour, that suggests that some men are making an active choice to keep women seeking to satisfy the objectification level that the male desires.

Which is another stupid thing. Some women aren't physically beautiful, that's not the end of the world. It's not even a big thing. There's much more important things than physical beauty. Her "way" of dealing with this is telling them a lie - "hurr hurr you're already beautiful" - oh really? Rather than teaching them that the most important beauty consists in being virtuous, they teach them that they already have a beautiful body even while it's false, and reality will show them that it is false sooner or later, and they will be miserable, because they put their money on something that is corruptible and can be lost (physical beauty). — Agustino

Do you have a heart in there Agustino? Holy cannoli! Who are you to suggest what is and isn't a GOOD POSITIVE movement to bring the reality to a woman's body as it morphs over life?

No one has ever had to convince me to get a boner. It's a biological response. — geospiza

lololol
mods feel free to delete

The fact that it doesn't illustrate the non-physical beauty that you're speaking of. It's not an image which arouses in you feelings of the glow and beauty of a newly created life. Neither does it illustrate the bond between mother and child, or between mother and father for that matter.

And why is it "political"? — Because Serena is doing this just to show she is PROUD of her pregnant body and isn't ashamed of showing it out in the open for all to see. It's part of a political movement aimed at normalising public displays of intimate matters, as if such things were meant to be put on public display. To me, this is quite sickening. — Agustino

Do you understand the miracle of the birth of a human? I mean Dude, this has little to do with politics but rather the ability to love living life at every stage, which for a woman can include pregnancy. If you don't find it attractive and find obscure reasons to justify your perspective, you are inferring something that is just not in the picture. She and women around the world are imploring women, to accept the beauty of THIER bodies, not the ones who air brushed down two sizes to a level of anorexia that often stops the ability for the woman to even conceive a baby.

muttering.....talk about objectification at an empirical level (N)

And why is it "political"?

I think what that picture illustrates is quite defaming of what you're saying right here, in that it obscures these elements, rather than showing them. — Agustino

What about that picture is defaming?

I'm suggesting that the pregnant body of a woman isn't meant to be beautiful, and yes, I don't consider that picture of Serena to be beautiful, but rather ugly. Why is it ugly? A combination of factors, including the fact that the pregnant body is used as if it were meant to be beautiful in order to send a political message. I don't consider this to be art at all.

Now there's nothing wrong with the pregnant body, it has its own symbolism and meaning to offer, but it's not in beauty, but rather in nourishment, protection, etc. I think a picture like this just defames that. — Agustino

This is just a guess not an assumption so please do not take it that way but my guess is you have never contributed to the creation of a child. There are hopes and dreams created through the 10 lunar months that your partner is pregnant that enamor you with the upcoming birth of a part of you, blended with part of your partner. That actually translates to an appreciation of the beauty of a woman when she is literally carrying your baby. At times men will wonder if the pregnant woman in their home is actually the same woman he married because co-habituating a body is a pretty magnificent and creepy feeling all at the same time, something a man could never understand. But in the glow of the pending addition to your life, a pregnant woman could not be more beautiful.
So maybe it comes down to beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially in the creation of another human but I think that pregnant women are beautiful simply because the glow of life that shows in their whole being.

Why do I give a damn about candour when it's ugly?! Can someone please explain this to me? — Agustino

My dear Agustino, are you suggesting that Serena is "ugly" because she is pregnant?

Lazy, loyal bastard that I love to death. — TimeLine

Elliot is a handsome boy!
however
Rotties Rock 8-)

Women are inferior to men at sports.

Is it OK to say that? — Roke

Of course it's okay to say, not true but okay for you to say. However it is just as "okay" for someone else to make a HUGE generalization about something you are or are not.
What is said is neutral, how we choose to allow ourselves to react is another story.

You'll probably employ a certain number of assholes though — Mongrel

I'd like to volunteer my services for the position of asshole along with Hanover, SIR and Baaaannnooo!

You have the coordinates Tiff, chug along over and visit. — Sir2u

Could you leave the porch light on for me?

Two weeks with no screaming kids, sounds like heaven. — Sir2u

Where is this Heaven you speak of Sir?

I am listening to the Imus in the morning show. Same show I have listened to daily for over 30 years now. God I feel old :-O

Oh and I did get the last word 8-)

Princess Kahlua growing as she naps. (L)

Some women have a way of making a man think he is in control, but in reality the guy does what the girl wants anyway. That would seem like a very skillful way of dominating. And the guy is not any the wiser...lol.
— Lone Wolf

This is almost as creepy as what Agustino was saying. — T Clark

T Clark, if you were Hanover I would THWAP you for being naïve but since you aren't Hanover, let me just say that what Lone Wolf was saying in the quote you posted, is directly out of the Female Players Handbook. Each gender has their own 'Players Handbook' and I am pretty sure you would recognize a page out of the males, as quickly as I can pick out the page of the females.
Think back to when you were dating a woman who you thought was the greatest person ever because she seemed to know what you wanted and thought what you wanted was a great idea herself. ;)