they are concepts used to describe the world. — Metaphysician Undercover
... experience is knowledge of particulars, but art of universals; and actions and the effects produced are all concerned with the particular ... we consider that knowledge and proficiency belong to art rather than to experience, and we assume that artists are wiser than men of mere experience (which implies that in all cases wisdom depends rather upon knowledge); and this is because the former know the cause, whereas the latter do not. For the experienced know the fact, but not the wherefore; but the artists know the wherefore and the cause. (Metaphysics 981a)
The true form of the thing consists of accidents, — Metaphysician Undercover
man by man
Augustine — Metaphysician Undercover
Thomas Aquinas — Metaphysician Undercover
I do think it is fair to say that Aristotle has no patience for the 'likely stories' and the devices of myth and poetry employed by Plato. — Paine
you haven't shown me anything to make think that I'm wrong. — Metaphysician Undercover
...everything indicates that there is potentiality and actuality. — Metaphysician Undercover
... his "Metaphysics" the need for an actuality which is prior to material objects, as the cause of the first material form. All material objects are preceded in time by the potential for their existence. But a potential requires something actual to actualize it and become an actual material form — Metaphysician Undercover
Answer me then, he said, what is it that, present in a body, makes it living?
Cebes: A soul. (105c)
What is used in his demonstration that the world is not eternal, is the concepts of potentiality and actuality. — Metaphysician Undercover
The true form of the thing consists of accidents — Metaphysician Undercover
Therefore potentiality and actuality, as concepts, — Metaphysician Undercover
This is commonly known as the separation between the world and the representation, map and terrain. — Metaphysician Undercover
… the reason for our present discussion is that it is generally assumed that what is called Wisdom is concerned with the primary causes and principles … (981b)
We consider first, then, that the wise man knows all things, so far as it is possible, without having knowledge of every one of them individually … (982a)
… for the wise man should give orders, not receive them; nor should he obey others, but the less wise should obey him. (982a)
anything composed of matter is corruptible — Metaphysician Undercover
... for the actually existent is always generated from the potentially existent by something which is actually existent—e.g., man by man ...
The former precludes the latter under the conditions of your conditional proposition: "If the world is eternal then there can be no prior potentiality or actuality or prime mover." — Metaphysician Undercover
There is nothing to indicate that the world might be eternal. — Metaphysician Undercover
there is potentiality and actuality. — Metaphysician Undercover
So that possibility, that the world is eternal and there no potentiality or actuality is easily excluded as unreal. — Metaphysician Undercover
You got it incorrectly. It's not "the opinion of the wise man". — L'éléphant
That's why you got lost there for a second. — L'éléphant
But prior in time to these potential entities are other actual entities from which the former are generated; for the actually existent is always generated from the potentially existent by something which is actually existent—e.g., man by man, cultured by cultured—there is always some prime mover; and that which initiates motion exists already in actuality. (1049b)
It is also prior in a deeper sense; because that which is eternal is prior in substantiality to that which is perishable, and nothing eternal is potential. (1050b)
Again I could care less about any of your propaganda. — NOS4A2
Aristotelian-Thomist philosophy — Wayfarer
So to exist is to be separate, to be this as distinct from that. — Wayfarer
There are many senses in which a thing may be said to 'be', but all that 'is' is related to one central point, one definite kind of thing, and is not said to 'be' by a mere ambiguity. (Metaphysics Book 4, Chapter 1)
There used to be an explicit statement that 'ontology' was derived from the first-person participle of 'to be' (i.e. 'I am') on one of the online dictionaries, but it's gone now. — Wayfarer
The term οὐσία is an Ancient Greek noun, formed on the feminine present participle of the verb εἰμί, eimí, meaning "to be, I am"
In my analysis, it basically stems from Descartes' designation of mind or consciousness as 'res cogitans' which means 'thinking thing' ('res' being Latin for 'thing or object')*. This leads to the disastrously oxymoronic conception of 'a thinking substance' which is the single biggest contributor to modern physicalist philosophy. — Wayfarer
I will not allow the Athenians to sin twice against philosophy.
This makes almost exactly the point I am seeing to make: that 'what exists' is only ever an aspect or facet of 'what is', — Wayfarer
I’m now supposed to give a hoot over Murdoch disagreeing with Fox News anchors about the results of an election? — NOS4A2
That is why the theological principle "God" is much better suited to philosophy, — Metaphysician Undercover
All material objects are preceded in time by the potential for their existence. — Metaphysician Undercover
... pre-material final cause — Metaphysician Undercover
... we need to maintain a separation between pre-material final cause, and post-material formal cause, in the way that Aristotle demonstrated — Metaphysician Undercover
I made no such claim. — Dfpolis
... for it is not affected or altered. Hence this is a different form from movement; for movement is the activity of the incomplete, while activity proper is different, the activity of the complete. — ibid.431a4
By leaving out an essential feature you are misrepresenting it.
— Fooloso4
Asked and answered. — Dfpolis
what if anything are you actually explaining with regard to consciousness?
— Fooloso4
That it is not reducible to a physical process. — Dfpolis
I have not misrepresented it. I said it was controversial and gave my understanding. — Dfpolis
But, it is not relevant to my topic any more than the related discussion of the Unmoved Mover. — Dfpolis
Sufficiently vague. Consciousness, the operation of the agent intellect, is the operation of our power of awareness.
— Fooloso4
The quoted text is relating the agent intellect to phenomenology, not explaining its dynamics. — Dfpolis
Consequently, consciousness, the operation of the agent intellect, is not a niggling anomaly that
can be ignored until explained as a neurophysical side effect, but an experiential primitive
essential to understanding human rationality. Certain concepts, such as <electric charge>, are
an experiential primitive accepted, not because they are theoretically reducible, but because they are epistemologically primitive – reflecting contingent realities that cannot be, or at least are not, further explained.
So, you are a Kantian, holding "that the categories are the a priori conditions for knowing." — Dfpolis
You are using his terminology but have neglected to indicate that you are using in in ways that differ from his.
— Fooloso4
Do you have an example in mind? — Dfpolis
To state his entire position would take volumes, and no one has yet done so to universal satisfaction. — Dfpolis
How do we experience coming to know sensible objects? As attending to, and becoming aware of, sensory contents. Thus, the agent intellect is our power of awareness – and its operation is
consciousness. Qualia are the contingent forms of actualized sensory intelligibility.
My article made no claim about immortality. — Dfpolis
No, it is based on understanding, from experience, how we judge - — Dfpolis
for categorization is a judgement, <a is an instance of b>. — Dfpolis
According to Kant there cannot be knowing without the mind's categories.
— Fooloso4
This is the worst case of an argument from authority -- citing Kant in support of Kantianism. — Dfpolis
It is categorization without knowing what one is categorizing that is incoherent. — Dfpolis
The bottom line is that I did not discuss Kant in my article, so this discussion does not relate to the topic. — Dfpolis
My article made no claim about immortality. So, are you concluding that our capacity to be aware of contents makes us immortal? — Dfpolis
So, what of value did Kant add? — Dfpolis
meaning nothing more than neural signal processing — Dfpolis
I am not arguing that my view is Aristotle's view, I am only crediting Aristotle with inspiring my view. — Dfpolis
mind cannot categorize without first knowing — Dfpolis
That is hardly a cogent argument for Kantianism. — Dfpolis
So, do you think his theory contributes to understanding reality? — Dfpolis
I did not say signal processing was simple. That is twisting my words. — Dfpolis
Kant would argue that in order for there to be recognized content the mind must organize and make sense of what is given to it, that is, sensory intuitions.
— Fooloso4
But it cannot do so at the sensory level, which is simply neural signal processing — Dfpolis
But, that is not the question I am addressing in my article. — Dfpolis
Sensation cannot impose abstract categories. — Dfpolis
To categorize we must judge ... — Dfpolis
Are you now abandoning naturalism? — Dfpolis
But it cannot do so at the sensory level, which is simply neural signal processing — Dfpolis
I disagree because it is incoherent. — Dfpolis
The question of whether seeing and knowing are receptive or conceptive, passive or constructive.
— Fooloso4
This is not a complete sentence, and I cannot complete it in a sensible way. — Dfpolis
Sensing and knowing — Dfpolis
I have Windows 10 and can open all my files. Message me with your email address, let me know what you want, and I will send it in a format you can open (docx? pdf?). — Dfpolis
,As Kant has no facts to be categorized, there is no basis for categorization, — Dfpolis
...as the mind categorizes based on recognized content. — Dfpolis
According to Kant, it is not that the mind organizes or categories facts ... — Fooloso4
Not "according to the categories," as I understand him, but by imposing the categories. — Dfpolis
I would ask you to reflect on your claim, "this organizing, categorizing and synthesizing activity of the mind is the condition of possibility for empirical knowledge." It is prima facie impossible. Why? Because the mind could not possibly organize, or categorize facts it does not know. — Dfpolis
... pre-given capacities or attributes. — Joshs
I am not writing a commentary on De Anima. I am discussing the Hard Problem. — Dfpolis
I said it was controversial and offered my argument to resolve the controversy. — Dfpolis
If we abstract away physical reality, anything can happen — Dfpolis
I am never using Aristotle as an authority. I am crediting him as a source. — Dfpolis
I am an Aristotelian. — Dfpolis
this is not the Aristotelian view. — Dfpolis
By definition, an abstraction focuses on some aspects of experience while prescinding from others. As it is based on experience, it is necessarily a posteriori. — Dfpolis
