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  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Aw your daddy was made to beg.

    Must be tired of winning, fucking loser.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    I will as soon as soon as Americans do.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Perhaps. I'd punch a Nazi or two with some relish.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    The Nazi regime was not on the whole composed of mass murderers. Just normal people happy to let things happen.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Yeah I took into account the alledged number of people put off by Trump's post-election antics. I dunno, Americans on the whole are shit so maybe the number even went up, who knows.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    At this point it's pretty much anyone who continues to support Trump. So maybe about 50 million or so Americans, give or take, generously.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
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    I would make the point though - despite all these lovely Parler screengrabs, a great deal of the riots were organized on platforms like Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit. Parler just so happens to have been the convenient scapegoat - a worthy, good one - so that all these companies can secure their monopolies.
  • Currently Reading
    Cool! It's more 'pop' than alot of her other work, and pretty breezy to get through.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    As predicted, the Democrats will squander this great opportunity to pass meaningful law while they control both houses and the presidency. Instead, they will spend the first critical months with impeachment proceedings only to watch their efforts unravel in the Senate. And if they are actually successful in the Senate and Trump is told he can never again hold public office, the only one helped by that will be the Republicans.Hanover

    :up:
  • Leftist forum
    Exactly the trash the video I posted debunks.
  • Leftist forum
    Interestingly the video states that no advanced country has achieved low poverty rates without high levels of government spending. Government spending is the result of taxation.Brett

    Wait - you think taxation is capitalist?

    And conversely, you think "globalism" isn't capitalist?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    since the Republican line seems to be that Trump should not be impeached, not because he did nothing wrong, but because "bringing the country together" somehow involves supporting the nutter who divided the country with astonishing efficiencyKenosha Kid

    They still fear Trump's base, even if Trump himself is a political dead man walking. The lesson: the end of Trump is not the end of Trumpism.
  • Leftist forum
    Feel free to watch the linked video.
  • Leftist forum
    It's hard to take seriously claims that capitalism 'is incredibly efficient' as anything more than mythmaking on the order of Aztec Gods and magical witch-doctors: one only needs to look at the black hole growth of finance in the 21st century, sucking up capital into the hands of a tiny cabal of state-supported lottery winners to explode that myth in all its thin, hot air. As for the idea that capitalism has 'lifted an incredible amount of people out of poverty' - no, people have been lifted out of poverty in spite of capitalism, not because of it:

  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Because none of those things can be shown to reasonably expect as a consequence a violent coup in the Capitol. It's not about causality -- the 25th amendment option has been rejected. It's about criminal culpability. In order to pin the coup on him, they're obliged to demonstrate that he intended a coup. He probably didn't. He did intend a frenzy, an outrage, a hysterical mob, but there's no masterplan for an occupation of the Senate in what he did or said.Kenosha Kid

    Most of the republican congress also can't accede to these kinds of arguments least they incriminate themselves. It's in their every interest to dump this mess on Trump's lap - but not have the case looked at too closely. They were slavish, willing instigators no less than Trump.
  • Leftist forum
    That sounds far better than debating if, say, Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization or if political correctness is Orwell's worst nightmare or some other crap.Maw

    Yeah dunno why he's threatening us with a good time.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Sure. If Congress are going to pass any kind of sinister billKenosha Kid

    Humph. My working assumption is that any bill passed under a Biden administration will be a sinister bill unless proven otherwise. I think it will have a higher hit ratio than the other way around.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    What does Jim Sensenbrenner have to do with it?Kenosha Kid

    Joe Biden, friend.

    Either way, seems a bit hysterical to bemoan the loss of civil liberties of some future bill being looked into regarding domestic terrorism. If and when someone tries to introduce security legislation that actually impacts civil liberties, the question of whether the majority prefer the liberty or the security ought to be had then.Kenosha Kid

    Have you met the US Government? Or its intelligence apparatus, for that matter?

    Hell, with Snowden we found out that it doesn't even need laws to breach your civil liberties.

    Edit: one more point - let's not forget that with the billions spent on security since 9/11, a bunch of larping nitwits with no plan and minimal organization were able to literally sit on the speakers' chair; these laws, when not functioning as security theatre designed to inconvenience working people, will inevitably be selectively used to destroy any and all activism that the state disagrees with. People need more room for sedition, not less. What needs changing is the cause.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    From the person who wrote the Patriot act, yes.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    You just assume that they will use events as a pretext to remove civil liberties and and attack their opponentsssu

  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    "Socialism is when corporations are free to make decisions due to market pressures that personally affect me negatively". These gonks tried to cancel an election result and they'll whine interminably about cancel culture.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    https://www.theroot.com/surprise-surprise-off-duty-cops-from-all-over-the-cou-1846029959

    "The growing number of probes follows an announcement from the Seattle Police Department on Friday that two of its officers have been put on administrative leave pending an investigation into allegations that they were in the nation’s capital during the raucous events.

    The New York Times reports that cops from Texas, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire are now under similar scrutiny after social media posts placed them near the riots that took place in the nation’s Capitol."

    Why didn't the cops stop them? Because 'them' were cops.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Oh you know it is. I'm just here to encourage people to treat you like the opportunistic sack of shit that you are. Propagandists do not get discussions.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Yeah I know, he gets the NOS exemption because you're a cynical unprincipled piece of shit.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Says the fuckstick whose daddy spluttered out tirades about 'fake news' from the biggest pulpit on Earth for four years. Fuck off.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were a fucking illiterate as well, you shitcock.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    This war against such canards as “fake news”, “misinformationNOS4A2

    This bullshit was peddled and popularized by the only person you come in here to run your fucking mouth in support of, so you can fuck right off, you piss-drinking hypocrite.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    The only thing I'm sad about is that they put this moronic lackey on a no-fly list but not a far more powerful enabler like Hawley or Cruz.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    This is happening in Hong Kong, right now, as we speak:

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  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Trump and the right are perfectly at liberty to create services with different terms.Wayfarer

    Except they're quite literally not, as the effective shut down of Parler shows quite distinctly.

    Just to be clear - this is less a 'right' vs. 'left' problem than a corporate monopolists verses everyone else problem. The former is a cover for the latter.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    This modern problem of giving every Tom, Dick, and Harry access to mass media via Twitter, Facebook and the like is something that must now be grappled withHanover

    Yeah, but what exactly is the shape of that problem? I remember not too long ago people celebrating Twitter's role in fomenting revolutions in Middle East and North Africa (the term even has it's own wiki page: Twitter Revolutions), and anyone following say, Hong Kong, understands that social media has been indispensable for protest organization. I get that it's a cause de jour right now because of the toxicity of what's happened and has been happening (and what has happened, by the way? Effectively a non-event), but as soon as you zoom out, a change in circumstance will have us bemoaning just such limits. The guns are trained on the right right now - but they will not stay that way. In fact, this is a moment of exception, not the normal run of things - so-called left-wing social media accounts have for years been targets of erasure and deletion, and have been very much part of the current 'purge'.

    The US is on the cusp of reinstituting a 'normalized' neoliberal regime deeply friendly with - if not entirely run by - silicon valley and wall street, and alot of people are going to need a great deal of alot more sedition.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Trump was is a horrible individual, but encouraging the institutionalization of an unaccountable system of silencing - which, it just so happens, has taken out one of its market competitors to further ensure market monopolization - is, I think, a far deeper, far more structural change that will not be clawed back from easily. These people had the chance to shut Trump down long ago - there's nothing at all principled about this from their end. We cannot expect anything principled from them any further down the track. Handing the keys to the public space of discourse - which is what social media is, whether we like it or not - to corporate whims is not a light price to pay for risks and even harms of letting these people speak.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    I think this articulates really well what I feel about the Trump Twitter ban - minus the coup language:

  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    And you did make up bullshit numbers which you pulled out your ass.