Sure is.

Yes... Chimp-Pig is a fascinating case study. Your ontological argument for chimp-pig, is quite impressiv — Wallows

Really? I admit it is genius.
But it hardly of fitting of the genius I am.
It is a taster an off the cuff sampling of ChimpPig

For instance, the irrepressible Truth of Lacan's The Chimppig Thing

That is my second argument... It is just too good.

You were saying about Chimp Pig again? — Wallows

It would be better if you were never born. ChimpPig is what I was talking about, humanities true ancestor.

This clearly what I was implying and not a misrepresentation of my position at all.... who finally gets it... we need more geniuses like you in the world.

You have identified some valid problems with universal suffrage in a democracy, but that's easy. What alternative do — Relativist

I may be dumb, but I am genuine.
I have no idea who would bring about the changes you ask for. — Valentinus

you propose? Identify the "right" people? I don't see a perfect way to do this. In universal suffrage, there's a chance the idiocy on all sides cancel each other out.

What is hard about the idea that an age cap on democracy arbitrarily draws a line in the sand whilst insisting on a sufficient criterion of intelligence, literacy, and numeracy would be a better standard of voting capacity.... That there are probably some 12-year-olds better informed than 40-year-olds and one is arbitrarily enfranchized over the other and my nominal and small prospective change would flip this...

Is it you cannot grasp the idea because you dislike it in your stomach? OR Is it a genuine comprehension problem? I am lost to a certain conclusion.... OR my specific claim of utopia... this isn't the end of history or the kingdom of heaven if you wanted a True World Theory you came to the wrong thread.

I may be dumb, but I am genuine.
I have no idea who would bring about the changes you ask for. — Valentinus

You want to be an architect you need a license
You want to be a lawyer you need a license
You want to be a doctor you need a license
You want to be an accountant you need a license
You want to own a business in many places you need a license
You want to drive a car you need a license
You want to be a citizen you need a certificate (if you are an immigrant)
In nearly every other sphere of life where one party has some kind of liability or responsibility to another one is required to have a proof of competency... In all cases but one and that is the current Disneyland Democracy being argued for where even the Village Idiot called Frank gets to be a special little snowflake. — thedeadidea

The answer is WE would bring it about by changing the laws of the land, if people agreed to it. Before I get change I need hearts and minds... Start small by saying if you don't have a reading/math level of an 18 year old & a civics education test (the one immigrants take to get citizenship) you get excluded from voting.

There is already something very much like a Wizard of Oz version of democracy where behind the curtain there is something very different to what is presented on the surface. Modern Democracies have made it almost a habit of divesting as much power as possible to institutional bodies to act autonomously of the government as a defacto representative. This not only dilutes democracy but is the current disneyland version of democracies version of trying to have experts dictate policy.

Yes, as a general surgeon I try and ease everyone's pain. My hardest philosophical operation was on chimp-pig. — Wallows

Oh jesus christ LMAO...
That was a great deflection of that deadpan set up.
The little thumbnail and everything... this is how I know I am a chimp and you are a pig...

But you have extended the uncertainty and skepticism of Marx & Freud in the targeted program against memes...

You are a monster, hyphenating that which was metaphysically perfect as a whole, not a conjoined abstraction.

I hereby announce my retirement from this thread....

↪thedeadidea
That is quite a program.
Who will execute it? — Valentinus

If you want to be this disingenuous let me go with.

I don't know but I believe the final solution exists somewhere.

Has anyone ever told you, you are a fun person Wallows?

I point out again that this is just another argument that does not make the direct argument that low IQ people make an important contribution to the democratic voting process... But why not.




Firstly it wouldn't be my program in order to formalize it you would need a democratic process of expertize and votes....

Second Jim Crow laws were about a racial hierarchy of prejudice that assumes the white is superior to the black for little to no reasoning. In contrast, I think I have generated sufficient reason as to why ignorance and stupidity is a threat to democratic governments.

Thirdly are you trying to imply that there is some kind of safety net to stop people from suffering corruption now? If so specifically what is it /

Fourth in terms of 'blatant discrimination' with how much-standardized testing goes into determining the collective intelligence of people, the value and success of education and admissions to the better schools or not I don't think my program as it were or how we would get there.... Is in the kind of esoteric nebula of hypothetical possibility and not actually existing in some way already that you seem to think it is...

Fifth my program would not just assess literacy and numeracy but specifically civics, critical reflection and research techniques... Including gestalt activities, being exposed to propaganda and things like Brexit showing why it is a catastrophe and urging people NOT TO LET IT HAPPEN TO THEM. I have no interest on teaching anything else and if you need more constitutional certainty... that is fine...

Sixth my program is not prohibitive in passing but LICENSE citizenship is EARNED and not freely given... Just as reaching a certain age is sufficient for one to try to get a car license to demonstrate sufficient competency...

You want to be an architect you need a license
You want to be a lawyer you need a license
You want to be a doctor you need a license
You want to be an accountant you need a license
You want to own a business in many places you need a license
You want to drive a car you need a license
You want to be a citizen you need a certificate (if you are an immigrant)
In nearly every other sphere of life where one party has some kind of liability or responsibility to another one is required to have a proof of competency... In all cases but one and that is the current Disneyland Democracy being argued for where even the Village Idiot called Frank gets to be a special little snowflake.

I hate you.... I was going to do an aesthetic argument arguing through geometry why the picture you put out was the very vision of aesthetic beauty... But your lack of enthusiasm I feel about the same....

You killed chimp-pig by insisting like a fascist we do 'the right thing' and move forum...

I actually think this is where we differ (as I agree Shapiro's influence is minor). I don't think there are any persuasive element to his rhetoric. His "game" is to act as a rallying post for the sorts of vaguely right-wing positions he espouses and he does this exactly by lending them faux-intellectual rigour. It's this method that I feel so strongly about preventing. Neither you nor I will ever be invited to speak at Berkeley, yet I've no doubt either of us would be able to dismantle Shapiro's reasoning relatively easily. — Isaac

This is where marketing comes in, have a look at Ben Shapiro's Channel... "Ben Shapiro Destroy" these kinds of "ask him a question..." so that he can take it down BS are the videos that get millions of views, he is more famous for telling Pierce Morgan that he stood on the graves of the children of Sandyhook than he is affirming anything specific and concrete.

As sad as it is you would probably get more inroads into writing a little peanut gallery "top ten reasons why ben Shapiro is wrong" about everything or going along to one of his live events and accusing him of being the Right's pet Jew...

Then take him to task about Israel and Palestine, get him to define how voting for Trump is voting for a free-market with tariffs, increased subsidies, etc

It isn't about being right or having a substantive point it is a marketing ploy and a niche. I do think some of his arguments though are more polished than given credit for, his movement particularly in abortion politics where he literally gave a live podcast on typical arguments and refutation... He is, in essence, sharpening the claws of his side of the debates reasoning.

In particular, his framing of the biological aspect of it outside of religious premises has been something alot of people have found compelling.

Just wallows... — Wallows

The first of the 6 undisputed arguments for ChimpPig ontological argument

It is a conceptual truth (or, so to speak, true by definition) that ChimpPig is a being than which none greater can be imagined (that is, the greatest possible being that can be imagined).
ChimpPig exists as an idea in the mind.
A being that exists as an idea in the mind and in reality is, other things being equal, greater than a being that exists only as an idea in the mind.
Thus, if ChimpPig exists only as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than ChimpPig (that is, the greatest possible being that does exist).
But we cannot imagine something that is greater than ChimpPig (for it is a contradiction to suppose that we can imagine a being greater than the greatest possible being that can be imagined.)
Therefore, Chimppig exists..

Look to those who can't follow along... I am arguing something more along the lines of this stupid, gullible people should not be allowed to vote.
I take Brexit as a good example of this and the geopolitical instability because there was a targeted propaganda campaign at dumb dumbs that in large part helped swing the vote.

I am asking is there anything more than an appeal of universal rights you can give?

Honestly.
If adults who have the reading, numerical abilities of a 12-year-old can decide the fate of the nation if this is a good idea why can't a 7-year-old who is reading at a 15-year-old level vote?

The voting line of age seems completely arbitray and given how stupid some people are I am not at all afraid of infants voting... Campaigning with tellytubbys bring that shit on.... At least the absurdity and depravity of the current ideological clusterfuck would be shown to be the 3 ring circus in a hand half an inch in front of your face...

Either make the argument that allowing the systemic risk of Brexit is somehow a necessary condition of the political fate of the nation and a necessary pain... or just admit you can't think of reasons why dumb-dumbs should vote either....



I think you made some great points but again we awkwardly get around the "greek" you are in and slave and women out...

I am not pointing out that Athens romanticized democracy, we fucking do.... It is the Barrack Obama photo opp, the liberal propaganda... I don't think alot of people buy into that shit alot of the time and then election time rolls around....
YES WE CAN..... "no you won't"... dreams are broken tears are shed...

then
LETS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN..... oh for the love of fucking god please no.... Did it happen, why? after 8 years of fake-ranching G.W. Why the fuck is this a thing?

I don't have it in me anymore I have no good reason I can actually give. Brexit though was the tipping point....
More than that though what concerns me is the narrative and shaping of public opinion say "deregulation" as what is honestly a meme.... Deregulation of what? in what sense?

Nope.... Deregulation = GOOD

We get the deregulation under Clinton that then passed to Bush that leads to the 2008 financial crisis. Plenty of people have written intelligent journalism, pointed out the faults but it gets squashed by a political message designed for children... Not for children but for adults with the cognitive, literacy and numeracy skills for children... I just can't do it anymore...

I think many people who would completely try to shut down this kind of thinking of limited freedoms would also simultaneously deny capitalism.... Because they recognize it is not as advertised unless they are insane the better arguments against capitalism do not presuppose evil. But that 'free markets' are an illusionary fiction as right they should instead arguing in some specific sense that rather than social welfare we have corporate welfare... But the same kind of 'not as advertised' criticism or polemic cannot be generated about democracy?
Why?
.

↪thedeadidea You are still talking about "democracy" as if it was synonymous with "the best form of government." If you remove what makes democracy a democracy, you may or may not end up with a better form of government, but what you won't have is a democracy. — SophistiCat

Please note the google translation of democracy

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Note the underlined bolded passage I have not said your definition is illegitimate only too narrow to apply to my argument in the way you want it to that is matter of fact. I previously clarified this and tried to elaborate on it so I will try dictionary games just to point out and make it as emphatically clearly as I possibly can...

DEMOCRACY HAS MORE CONNOTATIONS THAN YOU THINK IT DOES!

If this is still a failure I am at a loss as I have not the finances or your geographical location to sent a marching band by your house and am limited in any way to further make explicit what is implicit in the meaning of the word. Moreso I am loathed to further elaborate this single idea.

More so it is moronic to be on a philosophical forum and insist that ideas and concepts can only be discussed in your normative ideological refrain. If you want to be a good little unthinking normie go on facebook, twitter away there are so many mediums for you already.

have exactly NOT done what YOU ACCUSE me of which is blind prejudice. Nowhere have I said 'black people should not vote because they are black' or anything to the effect.
— thedeadidea

Where have I done this? — SophistiCat

I am glad you asked so here is you full original post so lets break it down

↪thedeadidea You don't understand what "democracy" means, do you? As StreetlightX points out, the sine qua non of democracy is that the governed have a say in how they are governed. You are saying, in essence, "I want democracy without all that democracy stuff." If you don't like democracy, then say so.

It's funny how words acquire such stable positive or negative connotations that people forget about their meaning and remember only the connotation. It's like someone saying "I am not a racist, I just hate niggers." — SophistiCat

i) note the personal address
ii) the rhetorical question and equivocation to someone I already clearly don't agree with
iii) Again your democracy only definition see previous post + inference of my position by i) + ii)
iv) Rhetorical simile equivocating prejudice by way of (i,ii, iii)

Do you have any other questions?

marijuana is interesting in a few ways if nothing else the historicity and arguments for it being banned is an interesting ethical/historical/political point.

There are some health benefits associated with marijuana but from what I understand most of it has to do with anxiety, cancer pain as well as well being, spontaneity and so on... Obviously, there are some who take it to say listen to music or socialize as well, which I think is a benefit.

But long term I think it isn't that healthy and even impairs cognitive function.

To be fair though this would depend on dosages and how one chooses to smoke it, vaping as opposed to a water pipe or bong is a sharp contrast.

An aphoristic exercise you're trying to undertake to sharpen your prose, via writing things you do not agree with? — Terrapin Station

Sorry... I assumed since you were on a philosophy forum you would look at a logical syllogism and realize what it was. Either that or I assumed more integrity on your part that you would not quote one premise from a logical syllogism and contextualize that as the whole of my position. When there is an entire elaboration just beneath it...

Obviously, you are either/or less bright or more insincere than I gave you credit for.

I apologize.

Even more vaccuous I write off relativism in the elaboration of the syllogism, the contextualization of the argument.... and I admit relativism doesn't impress me my entire sarcasm was... How after caveating it do you meaningfully differentiate yourself from pluralism... Why not go straight to the position than play semantic games... You then come out guns blazing decide
i) the definition of relativism on my behalf
ii) several key terminologies on my behalf
iii) then barter CONTEXT over and over

so you have a relativism (that isn't relative) that can accept many positions as a point of emphasis but deny some inherently on moral grounds.

This is in effect moral pluralism... So now you want me to qualify myself or my argument within the context of your misquotation... For your waste of life semantic, my relativism is xyz project I already anticipated and made fun of you for?

Were you dropped on your head at birth ? Or do you just try really hard to be dumb?

↪thedeadidea My becoming may seem unbecoming to those who believe they’ve arrived - covered in their sticky mess of “self-love”. — I like sushi

This is exactly why we cannot allow the maddening crowd to designate and dismiss legitimate and most likely right biological evolutionary theory we should teach axiomatically in schools. Man is something to be overcome and we must arrive at our ubermensche uniting our golden past with our glorious future and return to our irrefutable and irrepressible essence.

The Chimppig... we must stop Wallows at all costs comrade for he knows not what he does in only trying to embrace the pig.... There is no chimppig without the chimp and the pig.

↪thedeadidea Those that wish to divide are A wHoles. — I like sushi

That seems a little too kind, those who destroy the delicate balance of chimppig... it is generous not to deny their humanity... we can only insist they know not what they do.

Explain this. — Wallows

The Good, The True & The Beautiful

I accept the pluralism of chimppig it is you who wants to divide the community.

Democracy is above all a safety valve. It isn't perfect, but as a safety valve it works brilliantly. Yes, there are ignorant people and those who don't care at all about the actual politics, but it gives the society a peaceful way to change the political course if everything is going wrong. Democracy doesn't eradicate the problems of politics like corruption, but it tends to work better than a system without any trace of democracy.

Without democracy, there is no safety valve. The machine either works or ends up breaking up totally usually rather violently. That's a bad thing. — ssu

FInally, someone said something worth responding too...
Fair point but then do you think we should run it as is or do you think a citizen elect by randomization would be more helpful....
Moreover in principle, if I could point to say the American States where large amounts of the adult population have gradeschool level literacy and numeracy should we just remove the age cap from voting?
I mean part of me is saying this half-jokingly but only half just look at the EU....

I mean I get what you are saying but to me a system of government needs to be able to solve problems. WIth global banking becoming a Quantitative Easing international agenda which in English just means a corporate welfare state and global warming.... I am struggling to find the commitment or structure necessary to bring the deals to the fore and make the changes that need to be made.

I look at what happened with the EU that introduced some very forward-thinking policies, were about as left as one could get in a lot of ways.... Then Brexit happened and has in ways jeopardized the entire project. The media did their usual three-ring circus of paranoia and fear whilst part of a targeted campaign which was an illegal invasion of privacy and against the laws of the U.K. the over capitalization of advertising.... We end up with this mess and in the end what were the adverts

Big red banner ads saying some shit about Turkish Immigrants coming over in impossibly high bullshit rates, Muslims coming to take jobs and so on.

It is racist toxic shit....
So if you expect me to sit here and say no... this is a safety net, democracy at work as it were... No it clearly is democracy destroying what was a carefully constructed vision of EU politics for multiple years.... Run down and run over by a swing vote of dumb fucks being manipulated.

It is absurd.... It isn't like I sat in a classroom and didn't like some kid that couldn't read or something it is 8 years of Bush, Trump and Brexit that will make you bitter... I predicted Trump would win the election the moment he ran.... you know why ? Because I thought that looks like someone who voted in fake-rancher G.W. would go for....

Where is the safety net? As is I mean?

You don't understand what "democracy" means, do you? As StreetlightX points out, the sine qua non of democracy is that the governed have a say in how they are governed. You are saying, in essence, "I want democracy without all that democracy stuff." If you don't like democracy, then say so.

It's funny how words acquire such stable positive or negative connotations that people forget about their meaning and remember only the connotation. It's like someone saying "I am not a racist, I just hate niggers." — SophistiCat

I think you have taken democracy in your head and thought "this is all it can be"

Excluding the ancient Athenian randomization principle of election.
Excluding the fact that it is only relatively recently that minorities and women got the vote.
Excluding illegal immigrants
Excluding foreigners whom might be affected by your dumb-dumb enfranchizing democracy leading to economic collapses because of your own elected incompetence.
Excluding the foreigners whom are killed and slaughtered on mass despite the majority of people not wanting a war they get it because 'they voted'


I think you are unable to separate the ideal from the real, or you are one of those rare bright-eyed people who trust their government and feel somehow enfranchized by their shitty policy. Tell me in this democracy when often we need 5-10 year plans and things can change at a whim how you can possibly enfranchize any stakeholder. If you don't know what cognitive dissonance means you might have a fruitful self-reflective experience if you google it.

Moreover, it isn't as if I have just looked around the thought "I need a scapegoat" I have more or less identified a group and said they are a threat to democracy and specifically why in some arbitrary nonsensical way... I have exactly NOT done what YOU ACCUSE me of which is blind prejudice. Nowhere have I said 'black people should not vote because they are black' or anything to the effect.

Rather I have pointed out to the incompetence of large swathes in the population being unable to participate in civics anyway. While the media describes them as victims, misguided, preyed upon for this democratic burden you want to impart nobody will say why these people are victims, misguided or preyed upon.

Furthermore this idea that every stakeholder should be enfranchized at the expense of any other consideration or context is exactly the kind of cancer abstraction and justification these postmodern Ponzi schemes, pedaling shitheads use when they think someone should lose their job every time a liberal tear is shed...

They also use the same kind of irrational appeal if a speaker is invited to go to the University in an attempt of deplatforming. In spite of the law of the land, the function of the university or any other opinion contrary to their own.

Your utopian democracy does not exist, it is a fiction of your own mind... A dream no more real than when you sleep at night sadly you are doing it consciously.

The argument is based on a bad analogy. That's all I'm pointing out. Everything else you wrote is irrelevant. — StreetlightX

So your deference to a bad analogy is your very own bad analogy... You engage polemic as literal with your own village bicycle kind of lose concept of stakeholder then categorically deny every ostensible edification or clarification of the original argument calling it irrelevant.

No for people like you I move to evidence based claims or nothing because it is fire ball in the sky called the sun obvious, a fruitless endeavor to talk to you otherwise.

Whether or not you can or cannot 'think' you are a stakeholder in how you are governed. Your comprehension of how you are governed is irrelevant to that fact that you are governed. — StreetlightX

There is good empirical research that suggests the general publics taste of politics is irrelevant to policy making. I will get the study from home once I leave the office if you want to raise the conversation with evidence based premises. Short of anarchy being governed is an inevitability. Moreover plenty of institutions advocate on behalf of people all the time without any interference, for instance NPR's for cancer research or the homeless.

Do you think the cancer patient or homeless set the policy of the NPR for which they are as a non voting passive member the beneficiary of ? I think you are using stakeholder too loosely, idealistically and axiomatically to be really addressing the argument made at all...

A blind person is not a stakeholder in the color red because they cannot see it thus cannot comprened it.... Because these people either refuse or have an incapacity to think they should not vote because it is impossible for them to become a stakeholder in a democracy.... How can you be a stakeholder in math if you can't count?

you do that but just know I have these ready to go as well....

The ontological perfection of chimppig
- the 6 arguments for chimppig
- the rekindling of classical naturalism/natural philosophy
-the metaphysical application of chimppig in solving the 3 dystopias
- the transcendental aesthetic of chimppig
- the cognitive metaphor and new historicity of human anthropology and evolutionary psychology
- the unified field of life meaning that is chimppig...


to show how you broke the postmodern logos into memetic dualism

I see you understand the way of the chimp-pig. But, I think we should continue this conversation over at the lounge. — Wallows

Done.

No takers? :( — I like sushi

Unlucky.

Unlike driving a car or shooting a gun, being a good citizen who understands the decisions that need to be made is not a skill that can be directly measured because the people holding the rulers have their own politics and bundles of interest.

Unrestricted suffrage is the only way to get people to buy into results of elections. Otherwise, there is no reason to support elections when "your" side is getting the short end of the stick.

It is true that clueless people are not helping the republic. The need to educate them for that purpose is not the central focus of our present system. — Valentinus

No no I am not talking about any other right, free speech, religion, guns, you can have guns... But you can't vote if you cannot read Harry Potter.

Seems Fair to me..... We have many people in our society who are recognized as needing additional assistance some to the extent of being warded... Why cannot you not look at Brexit where Cambridge Analytica helped gather target data.... Running a big red advert with bullshit stats on a computer and rather than be skeptical the targeted people voted on that basis... ]

They could have taken their hand moved it to a tab and googled something but didn't... Why? No answer so what is the answer... Pass the parcel of blame.

So now it is facebooks fault, googles, fault, the newspapers fault, politicians faults, anyone but the 2 digit IQ motherfuckers that is who... Now I don't want any eugenics, to put them out of work or anything else but I think one of two things needs to occur.
a) secessionist state... cut the cord, let them go and let nature take its course
b) No more voting for what is a clear and obvious liability to democracy, the dumb fuck.

Does Marxism even have a proof positive, clearly elaborated game plan of governance... I thought they called Marx the economist of economists as an obscurantist apologia come Winston Churchill defense of democracy that he really has no economic theories at all.

It would be hard to avoid exploitation wholesale unless one implements the secret plan the Marxist final solution making all white cisgendered anglophile males what Jews were to the German Nazis...

You get a scapegoat you can do whatever you want.

Chimppigs unite! — Wallows

You have already made it impossible creating yet another catastrophe of meaning.... The rupture of the Hyper Real and oblivion of the perfect abstraction and metaphysical object of chimp-pig has created a metaphysical dualism of separating the incomplete, the departed, the irreconcilable chimp and pig.

It is too late you already ruined Christmas.

The ontological perfection of chimppig
- the 6 arguments for chimppig
- the rekindling of classical naturalism/natural philosophy
-the metaphysical application of chimppig in solving the 3 dystopias
- the transcendental aesthetic of chimppig
- the cognitive metaphor and new historicity of human anthropology and evolutionary psychology
- the unified field of life meaning that is chimppig...


All of these ruined by you.

I know what you are trying to hint at chimp-pig, this is the grammar and spelling of the eurocentric patriarchial racist white scientists. It denies you the truth of your true origin, your true species genesis the primordial ancestor of both chimp and pig, there is no separation.

I don't know how you live with yourself Wallow I really dont...

edited and credited.

Breath in a poetic syntax that is in constant relation to the world and the ancient function of introspective exercises and therapeutic techniques through breathing, a vital connection to nature or the world.... Then like every other Greek word when the West got them, they became ruinous and something else. Compare the apathy, the stoic indifference of a Marcus Aurelius to the apathy, the 'I don't give a fuck' of the catch me outside girl from Dr. Phil.

Soul, Spirit, Apathy, Wisdom all of it means something else today than it did in the past. What does spirit mean today ? Don't ask a philosopher ask a new age shithead or an evangelical christian.... For it is that vile spawn that took the word and arrested it to their own vile word soup they dare call truth.

With the nipples of chimppigs... they are especially sensitive, but none more sensitive than Wallow's...

edited 10.05.2019 changing "apepigs" to "chimppigs"

This edit was made possible thanks to Wallows and his nipples that continue to support us and our important work.

Roger Scruton is not a racist, this is a return of the negative left as described in Terry Eagleton about the topic he really got the sack for.... the C word.... Culture in doing so he destroys the pet project of nobody academics to try and make 2019 like something nostalgic from the 60's only it won't be the Californian Summer of 1969 but the revolutionary France in May 1968.

Roger Scruton was a reasonable proponent of a traditional conservatism that is the very antithesis of this project and one that is appealing to many in a project of humanism, aesthetics, uplifting history a Transcendence in principle. I am not a Roger Scruton fan, per say but I do admit his ideas have some kind of appeal. How would the self described wokeful, but truly woeful for their entire game is to see whom can cry more over human suffering to derive a sense of authenticity. How could they the woeful allow Roger Scruton to lecture proverbially or literally right next door.

It is more surprising that this kind of shit is still a surprise as Roger Scruton is just another great man taken for a ride by Orwellian Speech Codes and Academic Tribunal... Roger Scruton is the 2019 winner of the Tim Hunt award.

laissez faire a concept truly ruined by economic theorists but here might be the beginning, middle and end to an appropriate response.

But, egalitarianism wasn't enough to get the civil rights movement started. — Wallows

With the exception of foreigners, the unborn, criminals and the homeless all lives matter in principle.

what about instead of 'hitters' you get a different word like homies, G, superflybros or chimp-pig ?

Is the issue that it isn't the same that there is no synonym for that word..... Is it unique in a good way or a bad way ?

It's actually about pig-chimp content. — Wallows

This would not be 1/5 as amusing to me if your name wasn't Wallows... this is why I am a philistine because shit like this just cracks me up to much to take stuff seriously.

What was this thread about again ?

Okay...

Proceeds to be a wallowing chimp — Wallows

Actually... I changed my mind I'll be the chimp and you be the pig now pick a topic so I can tell you it is a pearl and you are unfit and unworthy of it...

But I want to be the pig....