Thanks for the citation. I posted some of my thinking that appears in the paper a while back in a thread on "The Reality of Time." Here is a link to a complete online version that anyone can view: https://rdcu.be/b9xVmTemporal Synechism: A Peircean Philosophy of Time — Mapping the Medium
This is at best an oversimplification of the Christian doctrine of predestination, and there are significant differences in the details of the Calvinist and Lutheran versions. Even Arminians technically affirm predestination, but understand its basis to be God's foreknowledge of who would freely choose to believe, rather than His sovereign choice. In any case, this seems like the kind of theological (rather than philosophical) topic that the moderators have recently requested not to be posted in this forum.All of the aforementioned systems of beliefs in some way represent the idea that faith in God alone is enough to get anyone into heaven, so long as it is part of their destiny. — BBQueue
Yes, I find it misleading because it employs only one variable (A) rather than distinguishing between a subject (S) and a predicate (P) as attributed to it by a proposition. I also prefer referring to the so-called "laws of thought" as principles, since (as already noted) there are viable logical systems in which they do not hold.If A is A (ID) then A cannot both be A and not-A at the same time and in the same respect (NC); next, if the LID and the LNC, neither can A be something intermediate between A and not-A which, thereby, would be neither A nor not-A. Any objections to that formulation? — javra
In my experience, when people refer to Peirce's philosophy as "architectonic," they mean it in roughly the latter sense. IEP has a pretty good summary article on "Charles Sanders Peirce: Architectonic Philosophy" here.Architectonic is about a general functional structure to the act of inquiry, not describing the way the flow of human inquiry then breaks up into reasonably distinct domains. — apokrisis
Peirce's overall system of thought is non-foundationalist, so he does not really have a "first philosophy" in the sense of a set of premisses from which all his other positions follow. Rather than organized bodies of knowledge, he classifies the various sciences as communities of inquiry, arranging them such that each one depends on those preceding it for its principles and on those following it for its data. Perhaps most notably, "Metaphysics consists in the acceptance of logical principles not merely as regulatively valid, but as truths of being."I suppose one could approach all of philosophy through epistemology, placing it as their “first philosophy”, but that seems to me like merely one perspective one could take on the interrelationships of different subtopics — Pfhorrest
Time is that diversity of existence whereby that which is existentially a subject is enabled to receive contrary determinations in existence. — Peirce, c. 1896
Time is a certain general respect relative to different determinations of which states of things otherwise impossible may be realized. Namely, if P and Q are two logically possible states of things, (abstraction being made of time) but are logically incompossible, they may be realized in respect to different determinations of time. — Peirce, c. 1905
Apparently you did not come across the post where I pointed out that the only non-arbitrary units for measuring distance and time are the Planck length and Planck time, respectively, which are derived from the speed of light and two other physical constants. Continuous motion through spacetime is thus more fundamental than distance in space or duration in time taken separately.Speed of light by definition as the distance (m) over Time (s) — BB100
No, the definition of abstract is "not concrete."The definition of abstact is something conceived in thought. — BB100
No, existence is not the only mode of being.The reason there exists 3 laws of logic is because there is only existence, things like concrete or abstact are just distinctions like those within them that are simply is. — BB100
No, reality includes existence but is not limited to it.The simple premise is reality or existence is just existence. — BB100
No, it does not mean that. Again, the mode of being of an abstract quality is essence, not existence.Abstract quality means that which exists in thought. — BB100
No, it does not mean that. Reality and existence are not synonymous or coextensive; everything that exists is real, but there are realities that do not exist--including time, qualities, states of things, and events.Real ,as you are using, means an object existence. — BB100
No, I do not mean that. Again, a quality only exists by inhering in a concrete thing. A proposition, such as "S is P," is what describes this relation by signifying a state of things.When you say some abstract essence exists, you mean it describes a physical object. — BB100
No, that is not what I am saying. Again, "S" denotes a concrete thing and "P" denotes an abstract quality; so "S is P" does not mean "S equals P," it means "S possesses P." I have no idea what "a, b, and c" are supposed to be in this context.When you say s=p, then you must be saying a,b,and c,p=p. When you say s is not p, then a,b,and c is not p. — BB100
No, that is not what I am saying. Again, the statement that neither "S is P" nor "S is not-P" is true means that the thing denoted by "S" is really indeterminate with respect to possessing or not possessing the quality denoted by "P." The universe is never strictly determinate, so the principle of excluded middle is never strictly true, because everything is always changing in some ways.The moment you say s is neither p nor not p, you are actually saying s itself is nonsense for the definition of s has to be means nothing if p exists. — BB100
No, that is not my definition of time. Again, there are no real instants in time, only the ones that we artificially mark for some purpose. Real time is continuous, not discrete.Just define Time as the whole set of instants ordered from the present. — BB100
No, that is not my view. Continuous motion is the reality, while positions are something that we invented to describe it, and an arbitrary unit of distance is how we measure it.Motion is just just the change of certain propositions of distance of objects, and the concept of continuity is simply an illusion. — BB100
The thread includes a lot more than definitions, and it is intuitionistic logic not intuitive logic.I read your thread of definitions, and have an idea of intuitive logic. — BB100
Again, "P" denotes an abstract quality. The mode of being of such a quality is not existence, but essence. It only exists by inhering in concrete things. When "S is P" is true, the quality denoted by "P" inheres in the thing denoted by "S." When "S is P" is not true, the quality denoted by "P" does not inhere in the thing denoted by "S." It might inhere in other things, or it might not inhere in anything, but its non-inherence in one particular thing does not affect its being a real quality.You can not have a situation s is neither p or not p, for that means p does not exist at all. — BB100
No, "P" is not a statement. "S is P" is a statement; i.e., a proposition that attributes the abstract quality denoted by "P" to the concrete thing denoted by "S."If we have an event where s exists and is p then p must be some statement. — BB100
That is precisely what intuitionistic logic denies, because it requires the principle of excluded middle. It holds only for determinate states of things, and if the universe were truly determinate, then change would be impossible.Remember there is and only is . P=-(-p). — BB100
No, states of things are real--they are as they are regardless of what any individual mind or finite group of minds thinks about them--but they do not exist. Only concrete things exist; i.e., react with each other in the environment.Simply put that state of things means that which exists — BB100
Rather than further repeating myself, I will refer you to my recent thread on "The Reality of Time."can you list your definitions of time , event, change, indefenite moment, and potential infinity in any order. — BB100
No one is arguing for the existence of infinite events, which would be an actual infinity. An event is not a concrete thing that exists, it is a state of things that is real; again, a change from one prolonged state of things to another (logically incompossible) prolonged state of things.Getting to the wall is impossible if a thing was always going halfway the distance. This would naturally disprove the existance of infinite events — BB100
Nonsense, it is the infinite series of steps going only halfway that wrongly treats motion as discrete. Continuity is not synonymous with infinite divisibility, the latter is only one of the five properties that I specified for the former. The rational numbers are infinitely divisible, yet no one considers them to be continuous.rather we motion is dicrete on that all particles are essentially teleporting at a certain distance, which is consistant with quantum theory and special relativaty. — BB100
Again, please read up on intuitionistic logic.I fail to see how Non Excluded Middle is not a law like the identity and noncontradiction. — BB100
Again, it is not necessary to break up the motion into a series of discrete steps, such that each "occurs one after the other." Getting to the wall is obviously not impossible--I can simply move from my starting point toward it at a constant velocity, and I will get there. I do not have to stop at each halfway point, then start again.Each event occurs one after the other, so getting to the wall is impossible. — BB100
Again, I deny the reality of instantaneous states of things. The minimum of real time is an indefinite moment, and an event can only be realized at a lapse of time during which the transition from one prolonged state of things to a logically incompossible state of things is strictly continuous. Consequently, I also deny that events are rigidly sequential and never simultaneous; on the contrary, an isolated event is impossible. Every concrete thing is constantly changing with respect to some of its abstract qualities, such that the overall state of things at the present is always an indefinitely gradual state of change.Instant, which I define here as the state of reality. — BB100
Again, I deny that there are any real instants in time, just those that we artificially mark for some purpose. Moreover, our inability to mark an actual infinity of instants has no bearing whatsoever on whether real time extends into the infinite past; it is sufficient to recognize that there is a potential infinity of such instants. This remains true even if we posit that there was a first event a finite number of years in the past; in my view, there could have been time without events, but events without time are impossible.Now if we assume infinite past there is a real infinite instants , regardless of the events you define as, such that ( ...I3, I2, I1). — BB100
Well, I reject that definition, as well as the underlying assumption that time is composed of instants. An event is a change from one state of things to a logically incompossible state of things.Wait, I defined an Event as a complete description of reality meaning an instant of what is or was. — BB100
No, a lapse is a real and continuous portion of time, while an instant is an artificial and discrete limit that we mark for some purpose, such as measurement or description.Lapse would entail a change of instants in Time. — BB100
Again, this is precisely what I deny. For any particular instant that we single out, there is no "next" instant. Put another way, between any two instants that we actually mark, we could potentially mark other instants beyond all multitude.Since any instant of time exists one after the other, then you still can not go an infinite events after a point. — BB100
A prolonged state of things, such as what "S is P" or "S is not-P" signifies, is realized at any and every arbitrary instant within a certain continuous lapse of time. An event is realized when one prolonged state of things, such as what "S is P" signifies, transitions to an incompossible state of things, such as what "S is not-P" signifies. The two states cannot be realized at the same discrete instant, because that would violate the principle of contradiction. Instead, the event must be realized at another continuous lapse of time, when neither "S is P" nor "S is not-P" is true; instead, "S is becoming not-P" is true. During that lapse--i.e., at any arbitrarily shorter but still continuous lapse within it--an indefinitely gradual state of change is realized.What do you mean by "prolonged" or "during" in your two prior posts? — BB100
Right, it means that the concrete thing denoted by "S" is indeterminate with respect to possessing or not possessing the abstract quality denoted by "P." Again, the principle of excluded middle only applies to determinate states of things.If S is niether p or not p, then that just means p is not applicaple to be describe S. — BB100
"S is P" does not signify an event, it signifies a prolonged state of things.Either way there is a distinct event you put forth of "S is P" — BB100
The short version is that the following five properties are jointly necessary and sufficient for a true continuum.Also answer me this, what is a true continuity? — BB100
Dictionary definitions are often inadequate for philosophical discussions.that is the definition that is used in the dictionary. — BB100
Let me try restating my example of an event using "S" to denote a concrete thing and "P" to denote an abstract quality. At the lapse of time before the event, "S is P" is true. At the lapse of time after the event, "S is not-P" is true. At the lapse of time during the event, neither "S is P" nor "S is not-P" is true. There is no contradiction here--that would require both "S is P" and "S is not-P" to be true at the same determination of time--but the principle of excluded middle does not hold.To say that a thing neither is or is not would be a contradiction for a thing is an existence by definition. — BB100
If by "empirical data" you mean individual observations and measurements, sure; but this does not entail that the phenomena being observed and measured are really discrete.all emperical data is a combination of points in time. — BB100
No, I subscribe to Peirce's theory of time as truly continuous. It is somewhat similar in holding that the present is an indefinite lapse, such that "moment melts into moment" rather than being distinct.I wonder if aletheist is referring to Bergson’s notion of durée. — emancipate
Again, this is an assumption, which I reject.A duration is literally the time inbetween events — BB100
This is simply the basis of our arbitrary unit for measuring the passage of time.a second being just the composition of the periods of a cesium atom. — BB100
Again, this is an assumption, which I reject.What actually happens is like you throw a ball in the air. It is not going through a continous motion, but like a film Instants of change is occuring that we perciew as continous. — BB100
No, continuous motion is the reality and distance is how we measure and describe it. A meter is an arbitrary unit for that purpose.But that just proves that motion is not continous for motion is change of distance — BB100
Again, this is an assumption, which I reject.Time though, is successive, meaning one event after the other. — BB100
That is the mathematical continuum, not true continuity. I deny that the real numbers are truly continuous. A truly continuous line is not composed of discrete points.First of all, a continous function means infinite points inbetween any point with no gap. — BB100
No, again, I deny that time is composed of discrete point-like moments; i.e., durationless instants.The point is is there exist discrete points in a continous function like the Natural Number Integers in a plane. — BB100
Right, but it is faulty because continuous motion does not require a series of discrete steps, going only halfway to the destination with each step. Likewise, continuous time does not require a series of discrete moments or events.First of all it is a thought experiment that says any point the takes half the distance for every change of distance to some point, then it will never get there. — BB100
Yes, that is McTaggart's A series that provides the direction of time.Past is before , present is the refrence and future is after. Right? — BB100
It is misleading to call excluded middle a law, because it is not universally applicable. Instead, it is a logical principle that holds only for whatever is determinate. At the lapse of time when a concrete thing is changing from possessing a certain abstract quality to no longer possessing it--i.e., during an event--that thing is indeterminate with respect to that quality, so excluded middle does not hold. By contrast, the principle of contradiction is indispensable--there is no determination of time at which the same statement is both true and false. Look up intuitionistic logic for an example of how this can be worked out formally.Your last statement is false because under the law of non excluded middle a statement has to be either true or false. — BB100
Again, the order is not the issue, it is the direction that is lacking; and this "visualization" wrongly treats events as discrete individuals.The order I thought I visualized with (E(nth)... E3, E2, E1, P). — BB100
Again, you are making what I consider to be a faulty assumption. In my view, time is real but does not exist--it is as it is regardless of what any individual mind or finite group of minds thinks about it, but it is not a concrete thing that reacts with other concrete things. Instead, it is a law that governs concrete things, enabling them to possess different abstract qualities at different determinations of time.The existence of time requires that what is , is no longer the case. — BB100
A statement is not an event, although it might be a description of an event. Statements can be true or false, but events cannot. In my view, an event is a definite change; if statement X is true at an earlier determination of time and false at a later determination of time, then an event is realized at a lapse of time between those two determinations, during which statement X is neither true nor false.A change of what characteristics in reality exist and what does not, meaning if a statement X is true and then not, then the we can say statement X is an event along with all other statements that were true along with it. — BB100
Why would anyone be restricted to traversing only half the distance to the wall with each step? If the first step goes halfway, and the second step goes the same distance, then you are contacting the wall after just those two steps. Zeno's paradoxes dissolve once we recognize that he is smuggling in a requirement for discrete steps that does not apply to continuous motion--just like assuming time to be composed of discrete moments, rather than continuous.Imagine you are facing directly a wall and every step you take is half the distance to it. Since each step happens one after the other, there will never be any step that gets you to contact the wall. — BB100
This is McTaggart's C series, which by itself is inadequate as a definition of time, because it lacks direction. The A series is also required to get past, present, and future.Let us Define Time as simply the whole set of ordered events. — BB100
This does not really define what an event is, which seems rather crucial for your argument.An event is the entire characteristics of existence ... — BB100
A visual is ( E(nth)....E3, E2, E1, P), where P is the present and E1 is the first event that occurred before the present, E2 the second, and then all the rest. — BB100
Indeed, and this was also McTaggart's assumption--time is composed of individual moments, whose contents are individual events--which I consider faulty.You are clearly assuming time is discrete and not continuous. — jgill
How about nowhere, since it is nonsense.I don't know where to go with this. — TheMadFool
As long as we acknowledge that metaphysical naturalism is no more "scientific" than theism.If we're entertaing metaphysical solutions to an infinite regress, then we can also consider solutions consistent with metaphysical naturalism. Right? — Relativist
Actually, McTaggart's landmark 1908 paper did not say anything about the A/B/C theories, only the A/B/C series:"B theory" is not Einstein's; it's McTaggart's, introduced in McTaggart's work "The Unreality of Time". In McTaggart's work, he also introduced "A theory" and the lesser discussed "C theory". — InPitzotl
Einstein posited a "block universe" in which time is the fourth dimension of spacetime, such that all "positions" in time are fixed along with all positions in space--consistent with McTaggart's B series (and C series). In other words, the past, the present, and the future all exist, a view also known as eternalism. The main alternatives are presentism, in which only the present exists, and the so-called "growing block" theory--it really needs a more respectable name--in which the past and present exist, but not the future.What has Einstein's theories to do with B theory? — InPitzotl
We evidently have different definitions of "brute fact." For what it might be worth, Wikipedia states, "In contemporary philosophy, a brute fact is a fact that has no explanation. More narrowly, brute facts may instead be defined as those facts which cannot be explained (as opposed to simply having no explanation)." The whole point of formulating scientific and metaphysical hypotheses is to explain the facts.In every scientific theory there are brute facts: they are the assumptions and postulates of the theory, be they laws, constants or whatever. — SophistiCat
On the contrary, modern science largely has its roots in cultures that affirmed divine creation and were motivated by this belief to study nature more carefully. — aletheist
I suggest that both of these statements are true.One could instead make a case that natural philosophy has always had to struggle against religious dogma and conservatism. — SophistiCat
I did not state or imply otherwise. Methodological naturalism can only go so far, which is one reason why it is a mistake to convert it to metaphysical naturalism.Divine creation is not consistent with methodological naturalism. That hypothesis can only be entertained with a metaphysical scope. — Relativist
On the contrary, a brute fact is something that is deemed to be inexplicable in principle, thus closing off further inquiry as allegedly pointless.Leaving something unexplained (which is what "brute fact" means) leaves the matter open for further inquiry. — SophistiCat
On the contrary, modern science largely has its roots in cultures that affirmed divine creation and were motivated by this belief to study nature more carefully.Contriving a pseudo-explanation such as "divine creation" prematurely forecloses the inquiry. — SophistiCat
Scientific inquiry employs methodological naturalism, but it is a mistake to convert this to metaphysical naturalism.That is appropriate for scientific inquiry, but metaphysical naturalism entails some sort of brute fact foundation for what exists. — Relativist
On the contrary, divine creation is an example of an explanatory hypothesis that avoids an infinite regress.Otherwise there's an infinite regress. — Relativist
The spirit of scientific inquiry should preclude us from ever simply accepting something as a brute fact. Like anything else that we observe in the universe, the particular values of the constants call for an explanation, and the FTA poses the hypothesis of divine creation.Perhaps the values of the constants are set by natural law. If not, their values are brute fact. The FTA treats them as brute facts that could have differed. — Relativist
The motivation is simply to challenge the widespread and usually uncritical assumption that the laws of nature have remained essentially unchanged for billions of years. It seems to me that the only motivation for that is to enable us to extrapolate our present observations into the very distant past, which I find highly dubious.That's of course possible, but what's the motivation to propose that? — Relativist
I was not commenting on the OP, only the specific post to which I replied. As a theist, I happen think that fine-tuning arguments are interesting, but by no means demonstrative. On what rational basis could we assign a prior (im)probability for the boundary conditions of the only existing universe to which we have access?It seems to me the motivation is the premise that our improbable existence entails an explanatory gap that must be filled. The purpose of my Op was to dispute that. — Relativist
That is presumably the intent of every author of an OP, but side issues inevitably come up as the thread develops.My intent for this thread was to discuss the claims in my Op. — Relativist