:up: :up:[N]ature doesn't prescribe—it occurs. The term "Law (of Nature)" seems like a linguistic artifact. A more accurate expression would be "stable regularities of the physical world" or simply "physical invariants." — Astorre
True ... and yet, yinyang-like, "compassion" presupposes "chaos" (just as every ceasefire presupposes a war), no?Without compassion, the circle breaks into chaos. — Truth Seeker
:100: :fire:So much of what we know and do is unstated and unconscious. For instance, we use language fluidly, and so clearly we all 'know' the rules of grammar, but when asked to explain them we are often at a loss. Words too: we 'know' what they mean, as we use them with ease, but we grope for definitions. The same goes for concepts, purposes, ideologies, worldviews.
And so goes the majority of our lives, acting without knowing why, doing without quite knowing what we do. This is the unexamined life. Philosophy remedies this: it can make the implicit explicit, the unconscious conscious.
As we bring the unconscious to light, more often then not, we realize that these implicit beliefs we've carried with us don't really make sense. Then we have the opportunity to replace the unconscious and irrational with the conscious and rational. This is growth, the transition to true adulthood that so many make all too late, or never at all. The conscious cultivation of a worldview which is consonant with the world, rather than an artifact of upbringing.
This is the purpose of philosophy. — hypericin
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Exactly.The two implementations, or messengers, deliver the same message of being; it's like a music CD [eternal, nonlocal] versus a live band [present, local]. — PoeticUniverse
:fire:[O]ntology opens the space for encounter; ethics [even more than "love" pace Iris Murdoch/Plato] keeps that space from closing into self-sufficiency [solipsism, egoism, narcissism]. — Truth Seeker
What of Levinas' meontological notion of 'ethics as first philosophy' (from Totality and Infinity)?the ethical and the ontological are not two regions but two inflections of the same opening — Truth Seeker
So, are trans gender rights human rights? Some of them are. Some of them are not. — Philosophim
:up: :up:... a form of wishful thinking.
A "right" which isn't a legal right (i.e. enforceable and subject to protection under the law, the violation of which is compensable) is nothing more than ... — Ciceronianus
:up: Like a vacuum or atom or aether ...I agree that if there is something similar to pneuma it will be established [falsified] through science, not philosophy. — Ciceronianus
:lol:a Dan Brown novel — T Clark
:chin: That's sophistry, not philosophy. (Plato)a type of rationalization of ones own prejudices — DifferentiatingEgg
:fire:To be a lowly worm and ask a question of the divine is to understand the value and purpose of philosophy. — Philosophim
Here in America, we fuckin' precariats need to grow some Aussie balls.In Australian culture low status workers habitually question and sometimes harass the management and ruling classes. — Tom Storm
In so far as 'thinking' helps one to thrive over above one's mere survival, I agree.[Philosophy]'s about one thing, and one thing only: "Thinking in the face of the pressure not to."
The reality is that there is often immense pressure to not think about things. For many, thinking about common ideas that hold society together is dangerous.
Never stop thinking and never stop questioning even basic assumptions and outlooks. — Philosophim
:smirk: Nah. Join the club ...Am I literally the only one left on the planet who is an AI optimist? — Colo Millz
:up: :up:It's just easier to do it with an AI, there's so much less at stake, it's so safe, and you don't really have to put any skin in the game [ .... ] Practicing ich-du on AI's is cowardly. — baker
Gracias, señor.Happy 10th anniversary, folks. :wink: — javi2541997
Please explain.[God] is a moral concept ... — Constance
:up: :up:If “God” is a moral concept, then its worth must be judged by the moral outcomes it inspires. A concept that sanctifies fear, tribalism, or subservience fails on its own moral grounds. — Truth Seeker
:fire:Whether “God” is a phenomenological boundary-concept or an anthropomorphic myth, the question remains: What does belief in this fiction do to sentient beings? Does it cultivate compassion, or sanctify domination? — Truth Seeker
Consider: decisions risking their own lives to hide runaway slaves from a posse of slavers or to hide Jews / homosexuals from gangs of Nazis ... or families of murder victims opposing thePlease, can you give me a salient example where a decision has been made on good or evil that is not based on political expediency. — Pieter R van Wyk
It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God – but to [build it]. — Arthur C. Clarke
In contrast to the FALSE reality? :roll:Not the TRUE reality. — Copernicus
E.g. religions indoctrinate "we don't know this or that g/G (woo) must have created / caused this or commands us to obey that" contrary to sciences which demonstrate "we don't know this or that yet until we learn (i.e. critically self-correct) more and more about the what and the how of this or that" – the latter requires and the former discourages defeasible thinking. :mask:'religion & science' are non-overlapping magisteria (NOMA) — 180 Proof
:up: :up:Some TPF posters are offended by my unorthodox views, but most accept a bit of oddity as typical of independent thinkers.
— Gnomon
Not always offended, but puzzled that you would be resistant to learning of the philosophers and scientists already saying much the same thing in a more nailed down fashion. — apokrisis
In @Gnomon's case: ... too often in a confused and un/mis-informed way (i.e. full of woo-woo).... Or one can go the "independent" route which at best can only end up with you repeating the semi-obvious in a suitably obscure way.
:sweat: Yeah, it shows ...My current "research" is mostly Googling names and terms I'm not familiar with .... so the philosophical inferences are my own amateur musings — Gnomon
In a world teeming with unwed mothers and unwanted bastards, absentee fathers and neglected children, I suspect very few are doing it right (whatever that means) while the majority routinely confuses chemistry (attraction, arousal) for "connection".Somebody is doing it wrong. — T Clark
If you do, explain why you (seem to) assume that "a universal morality" is more beneficial than the absence of one.I'm wondering what it would take for a universal morality to be achieved, or if it's even possible. — ProtagoranSocratist
FWIW, I'd recommend more contemporary (& secular) histories such asOne of my goals is to read Copleston's entire works on the history of philosophy ...
:100:A transman is a 'male who expresses with female gender'. A transwoman is 'a male who expresses with male gender'.
So are transwomen women? Are transwomen men? No. The terms man and woman indicate a person's age and sex, not gender. Are transwomen men who act with a female gender? Yes. Are transmen women who act with a male gender? Yes. — Philosophim
:mask: True.I think the point is that you can’t let your guard down anywhere, and you never could. — praxis
:up: :up:I avoid reading lengthy and didactic posts which are often poorly written. The AI stuff I’ve seen often seems peculiarly worded and difficult to read. — Tom Storm
:100: I don't bother reading or responding to any post that I even suspect is chatbot/LLM chatter.I come here to listen to what others think and discuss ideas with them, not with chatbots. — Janus
