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  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    The actual quote from her lawyer is that Kavanaugh's political/judicial stances was part of what motivated her to come forward. Not the sole reason. Which of course makes sense if someone who sexual assaulted you is now going to enshrine laws that potentially affect millions of women.

    Ramirez has said that she is confident in her recollections that it was Kavanaugh, and if over a dozen people can corroborate the story then there should be a renewed and serious ininvestigation.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    oh so you're just going to ignore the 15 people who may have corroborating information regarding Ramirez, the FBI agents who found her credible, and 7 people who heard about the incident before Kavanaugh was a federal judge, which includes Ramirez's mother and two Yale students who heard of the event days after it occurred?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Beyond the fact that undocument immigration is a victimless crime that simply doesn't warrant family separation (which does create victims), a percentage of those separated are asylum seekers who announced themselves at border points, which is completely legal.

    Of course, no conversation around immigration is complete without acknowledging that the majority of people coming to America from the southern border are escaping from states that dissolved due to US involvement. However, those pushing for these draconian policies are just interested in cruelty towards immigrants of color, and will not be persuaded by any other means
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    We also uncovered a previously unreported story about Mr. Kavanaugh in his freshman year that echoes Ms. Ramirez’s allegation. A classmate, Max Stier, saw Mr. Kavanaugh with his pants down at a different drunken dorm party, where friends pushed his penis into the hand of a female student. Mr. Stier, who runs a nonprofit organization in Washington, notified senators and the F.B.I. about this account, but the F.B.I. did not investigate and Mr. Stier has declined to discuss it publicly. (We corroborated the story with two officials who have communicated with Mr. Stier.)
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Ms. Ramirez’s legal team gave the F.B.I. a list of at least 25 individuals who may have had corroborating evidence. But the bureau — in its supplemental background investigation — interviewed none of them, though we learned many of these potential witnesses tried in vain to reach the F.B.I. on their own.

    Two F.B.I. agents interviewed Ms. Ramirez, telling her that they found her “credible.” But the Republican-controlled Senate had imposed strict limits on the investigation. “‘We have to wait to get authorization to do anything else,’” Bill Pittard, one of Ms. Ramirez’s lawyers, recalled the agents saying. “It was almost a little apologetic.”

    Oh my fucking god
  • If Not Identity Politics, Then What?
    I remember Christopher Hitchens always railing on identity politics. I had to include this biting quote of his from Letters to a Young Contrarian.NOS4A2

    Ah of course this was written in 2001. A good rule of thumb with Hitchens is that by and after the 90s most of his political thought is vapid and can rightly be ignored.
  • If Not Identity Politics, Then What?
    This strikes me as all very right

    No one is able to see themselves as a political actor.StreetlightX

    Unfortunately, political agency has been increasingly reduced to action via consumerism. Take for example the very first question regarding climate change in last night's presidential debate. The moderator asked Cory Booker, a vegan, if people should follow his diet. Rather than tackle corporate-based structural issues that are the predominate source of the problem, the solution is formulated, exclusively more or less, as a burden on the individual consumer.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    If impeachment fails it's on the GOP - not sure why any independant or Democrat will blame the Democratic party or the nominee
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    So somehow the corruption and crimes disclosed through the impeachment process will be shrugged off by democrats and independents and won't affect voting, yet a failure to impeach him by the GOP controlled Senate will held against the Democratic nominee and will somehow be translated into voter apathy handing Trump the presidency for a second term?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    So if the response from voters will simply be a shrug, then why not move forward with the process on principle.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    You assume people care. You do, other Democrats do. The average Republican clearly doesn't because anything is better than a Democrat. They'd have voted in a rabbid homosexual dingo as long as he's not a Democrat. If they did care, he'd never gotten elected in the first place.

    You're also assuming there will be fair and balanced reporting by Fox and Bteibart. So I guess you'll feel really good about it all with your buddies that already think as you do but it's not an election strategy. Especially since running a platform on "I'm not as bad as Trump" isn't exactly inspiring.

    If the Democrats are incapable of crossing the divide and finding neutral ground and understanding with the typical Trump voter, it will just be more of the tribal "I'll never vote for a Democrat/Republican" that we've seen for decades now.
    Benkei

    Your fixation on Republican voters circumvents my exact point. As I've said, Republican voters don't matter; with over 85% approval rating for Trump, they'll likely vote for him regardless of whether or not the Democratic House pushes forward with impeachment. Fortunately, the GOP only represent 26% of American voters. Rather, the point of the impeachment process to further agitate the Democratic base (30% of American voters), as well as independent voters (42%), and spur them to vote which they did at fairly low levels in 2016.

    Especially since running a platform on "I'm not as bad as Trump" isn't exactly inspiring.Benkei

    Except I very clearly didn't say this. I said that Democratic congressional runners can leverage the GOP blocking Trump's impeachment against their GOP opponents.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Trump, so far, is immune to the consequences of scandals but not to the public perception of scandal. The larger strategy at play here is for the impeachment process to highlight known and uncover additional crimes, and when the GOP lead Senate vetoes his impeachment, not only will the party be culpable in protecting him, but democrats running for office can leverage this against opponents in 2020 races.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    what? You want him reelected? If he survives impeachment procedures it means in the eye of the public that he didn't do it.Benkei

    I think this is an extremely wrong approach. In terms of historical precedence, the Watergate senate hearing began with only 19% of the public supporting Nixon's removal from office, and ended at 59%, a year later by the time he resigned from office. Congressional hearings enable new evidence and scandals to be uncovered, and while this will not likely affect Trump's most zealous supporters (only a recession might do that), it will highlight the crimes of Trump and his unsuitability in the office. And when the GOP controlled Senate vetoes his impeachment the GOP will own Trump's crimes as well and will be culpable for the continued crimes he and his administration commit.

    And in terms of maintaining some semblance of respectability and honor it's simply the principle of the matter to hold the presidency accountable for crimes while in office, and this principle shouldn't be sacrificed at the very theoretical and uncertain proposition that it will lead to his re-election.
  • Should hate speech be allowed ?
    Neo-nazi Milo Y-whatever his last name is, just announced he's broke all while having a meltdown over the fact that being deplatformed destroyed his fanbase, so no one should ever say that deplatforming doesn't work
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Hey folks NOS$A2 is a dumbass who is dragging out this conversation because he enjoys the taste of Donald Trump's boot in his mouth too much. Time to move on.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    That's not relevant to your initial post, and CNN updated with a correction within 30 seconds, unlike Trump who has spent the late few days Tweeting through his mistake.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    The CNN clip referenced in the tweet is from August 28th and he made the claim regarding Alabama on September 1st
  • Brexit
    :monkey:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Tidus Andronicus, after all, is from New Jersey.thewonder

    :love:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    So Jeffery Epstein "commited suicide". Going full conspiracy on this one
  • "White privilege"
    I wouldn't pay much attention to her comment. It's not a serious response to the very real phenomenon of white privilege
  • Is the US Senate an inherently unrepresentative institution?
    I just want to fuck the founding fathers
  • Anarchy, State, and Market Failure
    Your whole point was questioning whether or not the "meek and poor" were contributing to Sanders' campaign, or if shadowy big money was, and now you're getting fussy over contributions that are less than $200, you dumbass.
  • Centrist and Small Government debate
    Yeah the Founding Fathers are well known for their love of individual liberty
  • Centrist and Small Government debate
    me and my parents agree that the rest of the countries are garbage, which is why everyone wants to come over hereShushi

    No need to over complicate things, and the Founding Fathers were right about making liberty vs government distinction, which was unique compared to all other countries in history (where true liberty and freedom is virtually non-existent).Shushi

    the self correcting mechanisms in the free market will allow consumers to make businesses conduct their business in such a more effective wayShushi

    Expendable capital is key which allows resources to be used to generate products and services that create demand.Shushi

    I explained why most fortune 500 companies donate to the hard leftShushi

    Oh wow you actually believe all this, incredible.
  • Centrist and Small Government debate
    I was just thinking of mentioning how incredibly anemic this kind of libertarian political ontology isStreetlightX

    Easily one of the worst things I've read from any political book was the very first sentence of Murray Rothbard's For A New Liberty, which starts off with this pathetically facile and impoverished line: "The libertarian creed rests upon one central axiom: that no man or group of men may aggress against the person or property of anyone else." Just so absurd it's kind of hilarious.
  • The American Gun Control Debate
    One of the things that uniquely characterizes America is it's refusal to acknowledge the vile mistakes in the past and hold any type of responsibility, whether it's denying reparations for Black Americans or accepting that the Civil War was fought over slavery, or even continuing to have Elliot Abrams in a government position or Oliver North as the President of the NRA. We continue to see people in positions of power who should be otherwise completely disgraced over and over again, deleterious policies that utterly failed be brought back from the dead, or the memory of their vile deeds collectively erased. Did you see George W. Bush give Michelle Obama a piece of candy?! Hey, let's back a coup in Venezuela! It's like an hellish eternal recurrence of the same awful people, the same terrible policies, and the same conversations around gun control and it will basically never end because we can't confront who we are and what we've done.
  • The American Gun Control Debate
    Looking forward to "debating" this for the next round of mass shootings!
  • Is the US Senate an inherently unrepresentative institution?
    @StreetlightX I read certain comments on the internet and just stare at them in disbelief and it feels like the screen of my computer becomes some sort of window looking out into a hellish void.
  • Centrist and Small Government debate
    it often creates monopoliesShushi

    As a matter of fact, Capitalism creates oligopolies. Market concentration has increased rapidly over the last 30 years as corporate lobbyists pushed for relaxed anti-trust laws. Oligopolies follow the twisted logic of Capitalism. On one hand they scale production nationally and internationally leading to more product turnover and lower unit cost, faster distribution, a larger labor force to control, and therefore increase capital flow. On the other hand, it is dangerous for a company to actually be a monopoly because it puts them a severe risk should there be a change in demand, an act of God, etc.. If several large companies produce the same type of good, and there is a sudden decrease in demand for that good, then they all bear the burden, and it would be easier to lower prices to remain competitive against the other firms, thereby mitigating loss.

    Anyway, Libertarianism is bad political philosophy. Just garbage. Do yourself a favor and start with Rob Larson's Capitalism vs. Freedom and then move on to Amartya Sen's Development as Freedom to rid yourself of the silly liberty vs. Government crap.
  • Is the US Senate an inherently unrepresentative institution?
    The argument is that the states exist as a fundamental political unit of organization making up the USMarchesk

    This isn't even an argument!
  • Anarchy, State, and Market Failure
    Marx skewered the arguments typified in the original post over 150 years ago. "Freedom, Equality, Property and Bentham" sound wonderful in abstract theory, but go underneath mere appearance - particularly within, in Marx's time, "Dark Satanic Mills", and in our time "communist governments", these libertarian arguments quickly fall apart.
  • Anarchy, State, and Market Failure
    Why are these people convinced that they're living under capitalism to begin with? Why not any other "ism" that one might throw around? Such views don't pop into existence out of thin air. You don't have to read the works of academics to be influenced by views that originate in the works of academics, so much should be fairly obvious.Constrained Maximizer

    This is tortured reasoning. You just refuse to accept the fact that low income adults are capable of understanding how the socio-economic system they live in doesn't work in their favor.

    You mean the completely unverifiable claim about Sanders' network of donors? You will excuse me if I don't find "Bernie said so" terribly convincing.Constrained Maximizer

    Individual donations made to presidential campaigns are required to be reported to the FEC, idiot.
  • Is the US Senate an inherently unrepresentative institution?
    Are we playing let's ignore history because we don't like the current party in power?Marchesk

    I made it clear that the Senate is set up to be ludicrously undemocratic, and not reflective of the voting population. Has nothing to do with the fact that Republicans currently control it. You simply don't have a sound argument justifying it's modern day existence, because there is none.
  • Is the US Senate an inherently unrepresentative institution?
    Are we playing the jack off to the founding fathers game?
  • Anarchy, State, and Market Failure
    This is of course not what I said. The fact that I said "misled by arguments" and not "progenitors of such arguments" makes it clear that I am not talking solely about ivory tower academics.Constrained Maximizer

    Do you sincerely believe that adults making less than $30K annually are reading arguments laid out in the works of academics? Or do you think they are able to understand their own material conditions and see how Capitalism doesn't work in their favor? And what of Sanders' wide network of donors who live across America. Not going to let you circumvent that one.

    The inability to even grasp that we're talking about rival views calls into question the validity of an answer given by someone who harbors said inability.Constrained Maximizer

    I've heard drunks ramble more cogently than this sentence.
  • Anarchy, State, and Market Failure
    That respondents don't view capitalism and socialism in "either-or terms", despite the fact that these are clearly incompatible economic models, might tell you something about the validity of such results.Constrained Maximizer

    That fact isn't relevant to your original claim. You claimed that Capitalism is an "obviously desirable thing", and that those who oppose or "vehemently oppose" it are exclusively out-of-touch academics perched within their ivory towers. As I've shown, that's simply not true. There is sustained criticism and skepticism of Capitalism that exists across incomes and demographics.