Alright, could you provide more detail? — Hallucinogen

Things get messy when people use the same words within different contexts. I personally see philosophy as being one of those fields of interest that plays a large role in sorting out such messes, whilst often also exacerbating them! — I like sushi

Thinking is not "guided." Guided by whom?
— T Clark

'Goal Directed' would have been a better way of framing it. As in, merely having a sense of the word "gradation" as possessing the taste of "blackberries" is not really teleologically significant. — I like sushi

keep in mind that some people will not accept that 'thought' can exist without 'words'. — I like sushi

Empirical evidence and anecdotal evidence are close enough when dealing with subjective experiences in the real world. — I like sushi

It can be argued by some that this is not 'thinking' though because it does not appear to be guided ...this is precisely the bias some people hold (maybe correctly) regarding what we refer to as 'thought'. Which seems to be more or less what you are saying. — I like sushi

There is a psychologist (or cognitive neuroscientist/linguist?) who believes that ALL emotions exist only because we created words for them. — I like sushi

This means simply that the perceiving mind is an incarnated body, or to put the problem in another way, he enriches the concept of the body to allow it to both think and perceive. It is also for these reasons that we are best served by referring to the individual as not simply a body, but as a body-subject. — Kurt Keefner

(1) Existence is a series of entities and events.
— Hallucinogen

That is an assumption - an unsupported supposition. — T Clark

No, it's not an assumption. It's a description made possible by distinguishing events and observing entities appear and disappear as conditions change. — Hallucinogen

(1) Existence is a series of entities and events. — Hallucinogen

(4) If all entities are contingent, then there’s no necessary (non-contingent) entity. — Hallucinogen

There is no complete certainty, we round the numbers of reality by decimals. Trying to know as much as possible but never can every degree of accuracy be defined. It is simply infinity. Like the title says: "Facts, the ideal illusion". It is an ideal scenario to know things as facts, but calling it facts is the illusion many people tend to base their reality on. — Plex

you are confusing subjective experience with empirical data. — I like sushi

I have met several people who cannot think without words. I first became aware of this when my secondary English teacher told the class he could not think without words - had no subjective capacity to produce images and his dreams were purely auditory. Other people I have spoken to like this do have visual dreams but cannot perform the same visualisation when in a waking state. — I like sushi

A lot of people when pressed on this matter do sometimes 'pretend' to fit in. — I like sushi

It is wrong to think that the task of physics is to find out how Nature is. Physics concerns what we can say about Nature. — Niels Bohr

So do you think low quality posts should not be moderated? Every time a low quality post is moderated are you going to come along and try to make an argument in favor of low quality posts? — Leontiskos

What makes you believe Carlo is? — fdrake

Please bear in mind that this discussion is public, given your prior comment expressing discomfort regarding public airing of related issues. — fdrake

"Nuclear crisis – 2024 and the strategy of a nuclear war" was not the greatest OP, — BC

Beyond the pale - Of a person or their behaviour: outside the bounds of what is acceptable, or regarded as good judgment, morality, ethics, etc.

From beyond + the + pale (“wooden stake, picket; fence made from wooden stakes, palisade; bounds, limits; territory or defensive area within a specific boundary or under a given jurisdiction”), suggesting that anything outside an authority’s jurisdiction is uncivilized.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, there is insufficient evidence that the term originally referred to the English Pale, the part of Ireland directly under the control of the English government in the Late Middle Ages; or to the Pale of Settlement (Russian: Черта́ осе́длости (Čertá osédlosti)) which existed from 1791 to 1917 in the Russian Empire, where Jewish people were mostly relegated to living. The first attestation of this English translation of the Russian in the OED is 1890. — Wiktionary

You haven't provided anything of substance. Lots of opinionated fluff and vague assertions. — Heracloitus

Personal reflection on your own thoughts and experiences is not, on that basis alone, philosophy of mind. It is conversational in tone and almost devoid of philosophical content. Hence, lounge. — fdrake

ethology (a combination of the game theory with the theory of evolution) — Linkey

Roger Penrose has suggested that quantum effects are working in the nervous system of living organisms. Currently there is some experimental evidence in favour of this hypothesis: — Linkey

At first sight, it does seem unlikely that delicate quantum effects, such as coherence, tunnelling, entanglement or spin could play significant roles in a warm, wet, brain. However, the Nobel Prize winning UK mathematician, Roger Penrose, together with the American anaesthetist, Stuart Hameroff, made probably the most audacious claim for quantum biology in recent years in their proposal that quantum coherence in neuronal microtubules is capable of quantum computing and is the substrate for consciousness [371,372]. This proposal has generated a great deal of discussion and criticism [4], and it is fair to say that it has not received significant support in either the physics or neuroscience community and so will not be considered further in this review. — Quantum Biology: An Update and Perspective

If this is true, then we can assume that there is quantum entanglement between the brains of related individuals in nature; — Linkey

↪T Clark If you speak to enough people some will tell you this. — I like sushi

When I woke up after a heart surgery, 5 years ago, my memory was completely blank. I didn't know my own name. No memory no thinking, yet I was perfectly conscious. Since that time this happens to me on a daily basis, although my memory does not drop out completely anymore. Without thoughts, I can eat my lunch, make coffee perfectly. When somebode asks something simple, I can answer. But cooking a meal is challenging, because I need to make decisions. — Carlo Roosen

You will come to understand, if you have not already, that some people cannot 'think' without words. — I like sushi

Tarsky (aka alcontali, I believe) took it to the next level. — SophistiCat

It sounds like we’re in agreement. — Joshs

The other terror that scares us from self-trust is our consistency; a reverence for our past act or word, because the eyes of others have no other data for computing our orbit than our past acts, and we are loath to disappoint them.

But why should you keep your head over your shoulder? Why drag about this corpse of your memory, lest you contradict somewhat you have stated in this or that public place? Suppose you should contradict yourself; what then? It seems to be a rule of wisdom never to rely on your memory alone, scarcely even in acts of pure memory, but to bring the past for judgment into the thousand-eyed present, and live ever in a new day. In your metaphysics you have denied personality to the Deity: yet when the devout motions of the soul come, yield to them heart and life, though they should clothe God with shape and color. Leave your theory, as Joseph his coat in the hand of the harlot, and flee.

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, — Emerson - Self-Reliance

The solution is we delete your posts and ban you. — Baden

It sounds like we’re in agreement. — Joshs

If all it is entirely personal, then why would you or I judge others for making bad or wrong discussions or celebrate good actions? — Tom Storm

how can you be sure that what makes that situation right or wrong draws from the same rules, criteria and justifications as the previous time, or compared with 20 years ago? — Joshs

But here's the thing, we are discussing how moral behaviour works and this concept of 'the good' keeps arising. What is it? I am interested in how doing wrong make sense if there is no foundational basis or transcendent source of the good. — Tom Storm

Determining right from wrong in a particular situation is easy. What is not so simple is recognizing the subtle way our criteria of ethical correctness shift over time. — Joshs

Whether you or I can make reasonable choices on occasion is not really the point. — Tom Storm

Uncovering this seems to be the role of a philosopher, not the work of a couple of assholes on the internet. — Tom Storm

Merkins — Banno

Seems to me that people are forever banging on about 'the good', as if it were out there to be discovered, or simply a matter of common sense, but actually, it seems slippery, a contingent thing, a piece of construction work. — Tom Storm

For that reason we invent a term, I call it fundamental reality. It is about the things we don't understand. It is perfectly fine to have a term for the collection of things we have no name for — Carlo Roosen

One of the things we can say about fundamental reality is that if you know what you are looking for, you can find conformation that it is there. And those conformations regularly do align. So there must be *something* out there, we cannot say everything is just an imagination. — Carlo Roosen

I believe what I say is obvious and simple — Carlo Roosen

why do you think that? — Carlo Roosen

I modified the text, it was not fair — Carlo Roosen

Is there an uncomplicated explanation to the puzzle of how we can talk about things we cannot talk about? — RussellA

Who started saying that we cannot talk about things? T Clark is alone in this, I believe. — Carlo Roosen

I don't see the issue you have. — Carlo Roosen

Why not? — Carlo Roosen

Also "unknowable" is still a word. And "you cannot say anything about fundamental reality" is a contradiction in itself. — Carlo Roosen

There was something nebulous existing (yu wu hun ch’eng),
Born before heaven and earth.
Silent, empty,
Standing alone (tu), altering not (pu kaki),
Moving cyclically without becoming exhausted (pu tai),
Which may be called the mother of all under heaven.

I know not its name,
I give its alias (tzu), Tao.
If forced to picture it,
I say it is “great” (ta). — From Tao Te Ching - Verse 25

It is quite possible to speak of things that you don't know. Language doesn't have a problem. The "unknown" you can speak of, just as "future", "surprise". — Carlo Roosen

Also there is a few things that we can say about fundamental reality, — Carlo Roosen