600 years yes, this goes beyond just GDP or what baghdad was doing, the people were living in slums and tents for the last 100 years, with constant conflict, only hope of anything good went away with the monarchy and the 1958 coup,
its not bogus history, but you haven't seen how these people are,
all the countries listed dont have a deep complex conflict that stretches throughout history like ours

me being born into a part of the problem doesn't inherently make my pessimistic attitude invalid,
and Iraq has been going on with this situation for about 600 years now, what makes the next 100 any different?

one I wasn't advocating for civil war, two
Iraq will never improve in a peaceful manner, that would need a 1000 years to be done

Utopias dont exist, Iraq is hopeless, really, revolutions dont work in the 21st century

Point is, we tried every possible peaceful approach, the school system ruled by the elite is destroying and corrupting the youth, there will be no better tomorrow if no one works for so

it wasn't really my choice to be part of the problem,
anywho, well I am not saying they will benefit off civil war, I'm saying those are the only things we haven't tried yet.

that is logical, but quite not what major religious sources would agree with

I am what you call the bourgeoisie,
the people don't have water, or electricity, while I do, which is complete bollocks tbh

it basically causes a fatal flaw in his religious beliefs because god would be throwing people to hell without them actually having the free will to commit any sin

well we dont really have electricity and no one is going to do anything about that as long as the current gov is here, what do you expect us to do?

in Iraq, we tried peaceful protests for like 6 months, got many good people killed and gained jack shit, no other government is willing to support us just enslave us, only civil war is left really or a coup

really our elections are corrupt beyond belief, it wouldnt matter if we vote or not the votes get burnt lol, learnt that last time i voted
so truly we only have either violent civil war or ask for international help, both sound horrendous

the situation is beyond peaceful repair that I am sure of, we tried a few months ago to peacefully change anything, and failed miserably,
Honestly we're kind of left between two evils as tim said, I personally am not a fan of the US at all, but I would chose them over Iran,
and thats our situation, we're left to choose or die crying

Ignoratio elenchi, not really as relevant, since it doesnt point out either.

honestly I think there are a few historical events that lead to our inevitable downfall and collapse, those being the first islamic Invasion, then al ghazali being born, then the mongols,
even during islamic times (abbasid) we were doing relatively great compared to europe or asia,
but after the mongols and ghazali it inevitably went downhill, as tribals and barbarians would take over this piece of land then ottomans,
until ww1 where everything went well until first nazis came, then the cold war started and we got fucked over hard by that,
we went from sending europe ww2 aid to getting a new bomb each day,
and from that old time of post mongols, people were building up idiocy, till the point where they have become completely illogical and ignorant rn, most of the population still believes in magic curing cancer ffs
so the reason is mainly we got some dumb circumstances in a bad timing, which kickstarted a cycle of ignorance, and that cycle couldnt be broken because of how crappy outside influence was

moral anti realism

Young Iraqis, we dont do tribes thats boomer stuff

well you aren't americans if you don't fight constantly :lol:
for us its not constant

those same people right now are infighting over trivial issues,
I was there with them once, they're too hopeful, refused to politicize when it was their only solution, thats why i see it as endless, there is no one willing to do anything, even those that do want to do something are doomed to do it wrongly and fail

well the problem is, the people are generally ignorant and will stay such for a long time, because of the current governments, many see this as america's fault and that america should fix it which I find quite, depressing, people are losing hope for a saviour once again,

death is always regarded as bad generally, even though its a natural stage of life, for me I think its because of the wille zum leben, the irrational metaphysical will to stay alive found in each organism, and its not because of the fear of uncertainty, the fear of the unknown, there are a lot we do not know but do not fear either, and even regardless of that, death, holds no value really, it is as valuable as a birthday, why do we need to celebrate birthdays but cry at deaths? I think that its an irrational fear that presents itself, its a selfish fear and not one for the dead person, for they are dead, but for us losing them, which if you regard selfishness as immoral could put mourning death under so category

wrong place sorry