Mythology is the other chaps religion. Quoting Joseph Campbell, the late renowned mythologist. I have heard religion described as a failed philosophy, it seemingly giving something for people to grasp when ignorance was utterly total. As philosophy and science have progressed religion has been fighting a defensive retreat. It actually gives I think, believers the sense that they actually do think, and without a great deal of cognitive stress-- lol An orientation when no other orientation was available. It pushed forward a sense of humanity in an otherwise brutal world. So, although it proves to be something divisive in the present, something we can ill afford today, I think it was fundamental in the creation of a sense of humanity in the past. It was humanity's biological extension,, an admixture of humanity and in part, a brutal morality.

To be not is to be free from all suffering.

Peoples opinions generally depend upon the information they have been exposed to. Your belief that the attempted genocide of the native American indian was not significant, is an indication that you need to do some additional research.

Yes, I have seen that in my time as well. Personally I use to be quite fond of interacting with children but give that up many many years ago. I grown man who has much to do with children is really sticking his neck out. Personally I've never had any difficulty, but I think that is because I saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.

I think that is quite another matter, but yes, one only needs to be accused of child molestation, and your screwed. Even if one is found innocent your marked for life in that community. I know of an old fellow many years ago who was accused. I have no doubt in my own mind it was a great injustice, he could no longer hold his head high in a community he had lived in his whole life. That said, I know there are legitimate cases, far more than at one time I would have imagined possiable.

When one is speaking about the dilemma of the power elite, who tend to be untouchable, anonymous. It is only a few brave souls that speak out, like Oliver Stone the director, and the X- CIA man L. Fletcher Prouty. I would imagine the only reason these chaps have not been murdered is that they are to much in the public eye. The only way Americans will have a democracy is if they take it back, but I think they have already been dumbed down so much that the bible Trumpers will take the day. Dark are the days ahead, the elite can steer these people into anything they like. The world at large is fearful.

There is no such thing as objective thinking.

Belief is what biology tells us it is, when it is once removed, as in talking anothers word for it, it is somewhat more tentative. If someone tells you a damaged bridge is safe and from our own observation it is anything but, your going to go with what your own consciousness tells you. Books are a secondary sources of knowledge which we give temporary crediablity to, because someone else's biology has told them that whatever, is true or false. Faith and trust are two different things to me, I know lots of people when faced with that which counterdicts their faith [ belief without evidence] their beliefs remain the same, its a bit like confusing fear with respect. Another point, secondary knowledge can often be proved by an abundance circumstantial evidence, alineing itself with ones previous knowledge of the matter.

The only way to know reality is cognitively, if we are talking about apparent reality. Apparent reality is a biological readout, thus requiring biology, a conscious subject, observation, experience. Ultimate reality is decerned, at least some aspects of it, through synthetic means, instrumentation, but even this must be interpreted through biology, a conscious subject. Knowledge is what biological experience tells us it is. Apparent reality is the limited experience of the totality of the whole of ultimate reality.

American agression!

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/vietnam-american-holocaust/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXYsGuBdzM4

https://www.inspiringquotes.us/author/4302-noam-chomsky/about-aggression

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201506/anti-intellectualism-is-killing-america

https://journal-neo.org/2017/04/17/america-aggression-a-threat-to-the-world/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=oliver+stone+on+america+agression&docid=607996588494257745&mid=8FA97DAE58D63A247C078FA97DAE58D63A247C07&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

https://mondoweiss.net/2019/07/american-aggression-coverage/

You must be one of those apple pie Americans, the rest of the world doesn't buy that apple pie. The whole mentality of the American public, with few exceptions, is stupped in self-serving mythology. What a way to dumb down a population. The Empire is dying!!

All meaning requires an observer, a conscious subject.

Expand upon!

Sorry Sushi, guess the form fooled me, my apology.

To error is human-------LOL!!

What's the difference between apparent reality and ultimate reality? The answer, biological readout presences us with apparent reality. We know enough about ultimate reality to know that it is a place of no things. Apparent is biological experience. Ultimate reality in a limited way is the stuff of biological readout/interpretation, the the limited sum, of which is apparent reality.

Biological simulation is not perfect, one needs only look at people considered colour blind because they interpret certain frequencies differently than the majority. It is not a matter of right or wrong but a biological interpretation/simulation. A somewhat different biology, simulates a somewhat different apparent realty.

It certainly sounded theological to me, if I am mistaken I apologize. I'll reread your post to see if I get the same impression. Just reread it, and withdraw my apology.

Excellent, when negativity or negative truth is realized, as apparently you believe. You are in complete agreement with Arthur Schopenhauer, " Life is something which should never have been." I am not at all sure I disagree.

You are into Theology my friend, and it is not a legitimate topic/subject. When nonsense is made sacred, the world is in trouble.

I think what is in question is the imperialistic colonial violence that the United States practices. Many Americans buy the idealistic apple pie concept of America, this is a myth the rest of the world knows only to well is false. Empires are never benevolent but will do anything to stay in power, including genocide, a practice America has refined to dark art and fully intends to continue its practice.

Personally, I am not afraid of ghosts and zombies they belong to the realm of supernatural fiction, along with witches, warlocks and angles.

Can you substantiate this beliefs in any way?

This isn't a theology site, but a philosophy site. Vengence is mine says boagie!!

Thanks Manuel!!!

When I stated that there was no downside to death, I was referring to one's individual death, it is quite impossible to have regret in death.

You've miss quoted me, I did not say that death was the most beautiful concept humans have.

All meaning whatsoever requires conscious observation/experience, thus without, there is no question and no answers, no apparent reality.

Belief is the property neccessary for the resolution of certainty, without which one would be too fearful to move.

There is no difference. I will watch this thread however to see if someone can educate me differently---lol!! Wait, one can be crazy, and happy and contented also ---no? Happy in delusion? Think the religious, the power and the glory forever and ever, ever lasting life and the talking snake, they seem to be pretty happy on the whole.

Dechele,
Excellent, but, slightly negative. Consciousness can be nothing more than the relation between subject and object. How this occurs is the problem, but negativity never furthered knowledge in the past. We monkeys have come a long long way.

All words are qualifications and/or limitations.

The nature of life itself does not lend a reason that an individual should echo through time, as a present manifestation, one is cause, something others react to. If the care of others is involved, then there is reaction to the lack of presence, perhaps sorrow. Most people think of their identity as the totality of their life experience to that point, but all life stories are somewhat meaningless and as Shakespear said, our small lives are rounded by sleep. In this life, all we have is each other.

The first world war was the first hint that the British could not get their own way in the world anymore, they needed the Americans. So, America started its colonial take over, often in more subtle but just a ruthless manner, and outdoing the British in its violence directed to the world at large.

How dream like reality is. Ultimate reality is a place of no things, apparent reality is a biological readout. Apparent reality is real to your biology and that's got to be enough. Absolutely everything is interconnected there is no separation, there is no separate you.

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Beauty you might say is the relational make up of a particular form, species of object. The degree this relational form is violated is the degree the object approaches non-being, a monserosity of form and/or function is not beautiful and will not long be. It is first a conscious evaluation, in the absence of consciousness of course there is nothing. The healthier the being/object the more beautiful it is.

A celabration of life and all being, as expressed through human consciousness.

Hard determinism simply underlines the lack of free will and the realization that all is process. Sin is thus negated, and one's total responsibility for ones present condition in the here and now must be reexamined though the process of thought about the processes of ones life.

Beauty is the perfection or near perfection of form and function. When form is violated one has a monstrosity and if the function has no subject, not even to serve the beauty of form, again one has a monstrosity. One might say though, that beauty for consciousness severs as its own function, for only for consciousness is there beauty.

All knowledge is the property of a conscious subject and nothing in the world has meaning in and of itself, but only in relation to a conscious subject or consciousness in general. A fact establishes itself as knowledge or meaning through the experience of ones biology, and experience is the effect of ultimate realities affect upon said biology. This is not infalliable, but, judgement is always true to its experience even when that experience is delusional or otherwise in disagreement with the physical world.