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  • Word of the day - Not to be mistaken for "Word de jour."
    Effervescent is one of my favourites.
  • Identity Politics & The Marxist Lie Of White Privilege?
    He specifically says that the ideology that drove Mao from his beginnings to his psychopathicMr Phil O'Sophy

    That part. I don't see what your graph has to do with what I said. It's the same as saying Islam equals terrorism because there were a few Islamic terrorists. Then we can also conclude Christianity is evil due to all the wars fought in its name. It's not an argument.
  • Identity Politics & The Marxist Lie Of White Privilege?
    Ideology doesn't cause psychopathy. And whatever Marx thought it wasn't that authoritarian regimes were a good idea, that just creates new classes. Marx wasn't even opposed to capitalism as an economic system of exchange but like Smith and Ricardo pursued a labour theory of value. He was concerned with the unfair share owners of capital received of profits when in his view value was created by labor and not money.
  • Will Shkreli Be Arrested, and For How Long?
    Death can be funny but murder certainly isn't.
  • Drops of Gratitude
    Takes after his father, eh? :joke:
  • Identity Politics & The Marxist Lie Of White Privilege?
    my daughter of 2 suspected the Prince from the beginning. But then, I'm instilling her with a healthy skepticism against princes being nice. And she figured out she'd rather be a queen and have other people be princes and princesses because then they have to do what she says like mommy. :rofl:
  • Sports Car Enthusiasts
    Yeah, I sold the previous car and got this one because we're expecting no. 2 on the 28th. We need the space for sure.

    It's not an automatic Btw but eminently reasonable both in price and maintenance which is another word for boring. :lol:
  • Sports Car Enthusiasts
    Nice car Sam.

    I just bought this:

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    :cry:
  • Identity Politics & The Marxist Lie Of White Privilege?
    If I look around the predominant values in Europe: liberal quasi-democracies, corporate capitalism, foreign policy realism. I'm not sure where Marxism fits there. Since the crisis there's a definitive resurgence in the interest in Marxist economic thought but his ideas do not serve the vested interests of ruling parties and corporate powers. Where it matters, he's widely ignored in favour of other more quantified research by the IMF and Picketty on inequality.

    The issues Peterson takes aim (gender identity, PC cult) at do not strike me as having to do anything with Marx in any meaningful sense. It comes across as an attempt to label things he doesn't like as "Marxist". This then plays into the cultural idea that Marx = Communism = Stalin/Mao = evil, which is a mischaracterisation but is in fact the "prevailing" cultural value in that sense.
  • The American Gun Control Debate
    that's what the NRA wants you to think. Most likely people aren't that attached to their guns.
  • The American Gun Control Debate
    The fact that government guns would be used to confiscate citizens guns is a non starter.ArguingWAristotleTiff

    Why? If I'd illegally obtain a tank are they supposed to take it with sticks and stones?
  • Putin Warns The West...
    And yet you are hitting all the usual propaganda bullet-points. Historical claims and grievances are always brought up to justify wars and invasions. Crimea was not Russian land before it was absorbed by the Russian Empire (with help from Ukrainian Cossacks), and it was not majority Russian until Stalin's ethnic cleansings. We could go back and forth like this endlessly - but what's the point? None of this justifies Russian aggression in this particular instance. Taking advantage of the turmoil in a neighboring country to stealthily invade part of its territory with troops, special forces and civilian thugs, overthrow the local government, close down or take over non-compliant media, intimidate or kidnap dissidents, hastily stage a "referendum" with fabricated results - I say that is wrong, whatever else may have been the case historically or contemporaneously.SophistiCat

    It is wrong but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. The combined meddling by foreign powers in Ukraine on both sides have led to a situation in which Russia came out the winner of that particular game by simply grabbing land and correctly guessing nobody would do anything about it. The lesson for NATO/US "don't fuck around trying to influence elections or having neighbouring countries join NATO in Russia's backyard unless you're prepared to back it up with military might because Russia is prepared".

    Tough luck for Ukraine. And it will happen again and again until NATO stops courting countries surrounding Russia. If we do have the superior values, economic systems and culture, they'll come about by themselves.
  • Drops of Gratitude
    I'm grateful I can make fun of this pansy bullshit thread and tiff will still forgive me for the tasteless joke. Here's to the gall with the biggest heart in this forum.
  • The American Gun Control Debate
    I'll improve on that and say the most horrid part is enough people watch it for it to be economically viable.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    here's a little story.

    Mary and John were spending a lot of time together. They often went to the movies together and went out for dinner. My younger sister asked why, since John is a *shock horror* boy. I told her "that's cause they're in love". She nodded knowingly.

    Tim overheard and proceeded to ask "what do you mean by love?"

    I told him that's clear from the context.

    Tim says that only tells him I adopted an idea about love for my own purposes.

    I hope you enjoyed that story.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    It's clear from the context of the posts I replied to. Read up.
  • #MeToo


    I agree with the article but I haven't read the following in the #MeToo movement, which probably explains my earlier inability of understanding the situations you were referring to:

    The law, in other words, should be adapted to track the cultural shifts demanded by #MeToo. Proponents of affirmative consent argue that sexual partners should actively seek clear signs of consent throughout a sexual encounter. ‘Consent is sexy,’ we are told. When a woman alleges an assault, we should believe her. The burden should shift to the defendant to show that he took reasonable steps in the circumstances to ascertain her consent.

    Of course, if you read the above in the #MeToo movement, we should worry about the fluidity and ambiguity surrounding sexual encounters, the danger and fun accompanying it. I never interpreted the movement like that though. I understood the #MeToo movement as a wake-up call to take seriously the social assumptions on a lot of sexual encounters; the reality that 40% of Dutch women have been sexually assaulted and 80% sexually harassed with no similar figures for men. A woman's fear of speaking out due to effects on their careers, social ostracization etc.
  • Jonathan Israel's Radical Enlightenment
    I went to a book discussion when "radical enlightenment" was published with my then philosophy teacher. He didn't like Israel much and referred to work by Eric Voegelin. It's unfortunately too long ago to remember the exact argument but I do remember some of his criticism were begrudgingly accepted by Israel. One other pet peeve (he was specialised in Greek philosophy) was the use of radical where he actually meant extreme - radix meaning root and this was not a returning to the roots of something. Not very helpful, except reading Voegelin might be interesting too.
  • Anti-intellectualism in America.
    I think there is a wave of anti-intellectualism through the world - not just in America - but also in Europe, Russia, China, etc. because intellectuals have failed to provide an alternative to the collapsing world-order of the West - intellectuals have failed to steer us in the right direction or, for that matter, to provide practical solutions to the "everyday" problems that we encounter.Agustino

    Why is it the intellectuals role to lead? I wouldn't want to pin my hopes on a person or a small cadre. Why isn't it a failure of society to listen, politicians to act based on fact instead of ideology, the reduction of people as a means for the economy as opposed to the economy being a means to have people flourish?

    Intellectuals didn't stop thinking, didn't stop researching, didn't stop worrying and didn't stop explaining when people asked questions.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    But except for perhaps Germany in the 19th Century, that doesn't typically happen.ssu

    South Korea. Also proof that governments can run businesses.

    Edit: and Singapore. And really most European countries protected their industries, letting them mature before opening up their domestic markets for foreign companies. It's really quite common. That said, it doesn't make a lot of sense for the USA.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Says who, the financiers who make money by stealing from those who produce, the money changers and the leeches of society who suck those who are actually productive dry?Agustino

    That sounded like Marx and Jesus all rolled into one. :up:
  • Anti-intellectualism in America.
    I just want to make clear that his original position was:

    But all that goes out the window if it's simply a fact that (to take the racial angle) Jews are on average smarter than Asians, who are on average smarter than Whites, who are on average smarter than Browns, who are on average smarter than Blacks, and if these groups on average have strongly-genetically-influenced inclinations to different kinds of social interaction

    He offered the research in support of that position, which is simply a racist position as the research doesn't support the position. By agreeing to the language of the Quartz article (which you appeared to do), which grossly exaggerates the influence of the 52 genes found, you might accidentally be agreeing to something more than you intended. Considering this is the same person that raised Charles Murray's book, we have ourselves a racist and you don't seem to agree with his ultimate position.
  • Steve Pinker Lambasts American Left For Political Correctness
    That's shit pay in London considering cost of living.
  • Anti-intellectualism in America.
    you just fell for the switch. Yes, about 52 genes have been identified recently as indicators for intelligence. No, that doesn't rule out the effects of nurture and no, that's no proof that blacks are now more stupid than whitey.

    Edit : reading more, scientists that discovered this last May say the effect of those 52 is minuscule and intelligence is ultimately genetically influenced by thousands of genes.
  • Cryptocurrency
    Hey, if you start up something, I'd love to invest in whatever you are able to create.

    I haven't been approved by Gemini for some reason. Taking a long time.
    Posty McPostface

    I meant I'm still not set up with Bitstamp unfortunately. The thing I'm trying to set up myself might utilise blockchain technology (but not necessarily) and you can buy shares if it ever comes that far. In fact, I can't wait until I can finally discuss the idea openly as it's pretty awesome in its simplicity (but very difficult technical implementation).
  • Steve Pinker Lambasts American Left For Political Correctness
    I read the article but I don't see how it relates to the environmental issues I mentioned, which I think are of a different type than the ones discussed in the article. I'm very confident we could solve these environmental issues if we'd be willing. I'm simply not optimistic about the political will to do so until such time as it has become an actual problem. Eg., it will probably be fixed at much greater expense than necessary if we would've had the will to prevent it. But we won't because we're only to happy to let later generations fix the shit we break.
  • Drops of Gratitude
    another benefit from being liberal, we kick them out of the nest at 18 and if they fly they fly, if not, so what?
  • Drops of Gratitude
    great story. And congrats with starting on your wel deserved rest from raising him now that he's an adult.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Marx was a non - believer and in this case he referred to religion as providing pleasant illusions just like opium (and sapping strength to fight oppression). That said the famous quote is totally unrelated to Dass Kapital, so there really isn't a contradiction. You can disagree on the role of religion or the existence of God and still agree on a labour theory of value.
  • Steve Pinker Lambasts American Left For Political Correctness
    I haven't read pinker although I seem to recall something about not eating meat but might be confusing him. Anyway, I'm optimistic science and engineering could solve most of our problems but it's worthless if there's no political will or profit incentive to allocate resources to those problems. In other words, I don't think we're capable is prioritising properly and that will make fixing it either really expensive or too late. My particular concerns, GDP growth obsession, pollution, fish population and other environmental equilibriums, global warming. I'm probably forgetting a few.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    NRA :
    While today’s meeting made for great TV, the gun-control proposals discussed would make for bad policy that would not keep our children safe. Instead of punishing law-abiding gun owners for the acts of a deranged lunatic our leaders should pass meaningful reforms that would actually prevent future tragedies.

    How many law-abiding gun owners would worry about background checks and registration? I mean really... The inherent falsehood of such statements is just appaling.
  • Cryptocurrency
    Still not set up.

    Also, anybody else read about the Tether token and probable swindle involved?
  • Anti-intellectualism in America.
    the point of establishing that blacks are stupid is to inform the intelligent white man not to procreate with blacks. Or something like that. I really have no clue what the point is every time this "other races are stupid" is brought up again. Unless we're planning on treating stupid people wildly different only then would it be interesting. Since that's never advanced the truth of the matter is totally uninteresting. So not only is it not true it is also totally irrelevant if it were. Those who do think it's relevant are mostly racists looking for ways of expressing their racism in acceptable ways, e.g. camouflaged as science. Kudos then to you for showing the falsity of those claims with actual science thereby laying bare racism.

    Edit: also, we should all bone Jewish girls and get on with the creation of the ubermensch.
  • Drops of Gratitude
    I'm grateful for the fact I live in the Netherlands as opposed to almost every other country in the world. We could do with a bit more sun and warmer summers though but global warming is fixing that within my lifetime so I'll be able to retire at the Dutch riviera.