Depends on the political system. — Πετροκότσυφας

And what does the political system depends on? The people, yes?

The age at which these rights and responsibilities are granted to individuals by law. — Πετροκότσυφας

And who dictates such a law?

age of majority — Πετροκότσυφας

What's that?

Why? — Michael

Just for a change, ya know? Republicans being manly men and all. Democrats need to appeal to women t hoist up the base for the upcoming elections.

Still too advanced for me to understand what you're asking. — Πετροκότσυφας

OK, so to phrase it another way. What constitutes an "adult" in your opinion?

What is it about a society that engenders a prescriptive ethics (if you will) of what a functioning atomic unit of a personae constitutes an individual to that of becoming an "adult"?

I don't think that the term "Westerner" is useful. Where I am it usually means many legal rights and obligations which you don't have as a minor, such as being able to vote, work, sign contracts, possibly face consequences if you breach them etc. It also usually means having to study and/or find work, eventually being able to pay your bills and expenses from your own earnings, probably having a family and being able to provide for it, care for your parents when they get old. This kind of stuff. — Πετροκότσυφας

So, why is such a conception of human nature distilled into a simple matter of self-reliance? Can, I invoke the concept of "society" here without duress?

Depends on where you live. — Πετροκότσυφας

So, let's analyze that for the predominantly normative equilibrium of Westerners on this forum?

To be an adult. — Πετροκότσυφας

What does that mean?

The problem is when the preparation is not done efficiently — Πετροκότσυφας

Preparation for what? Efficiently?

Need a safe space. — All sight

Faith, does require that.

So, "What if Nixon had blue eyes?" stipulates a counterfactual without using a definite description. — Banno

I see. Now, I am enlightened.

So, to talk about counterfactuals, we have definite descriptions that we can stipulate about over and over, Nixon is Nixon and Banno had cornflakes this morning. What else can we say here?

It's just another name for "possible world"; plausibly without bringing as much baggage with it. — Banno

I think we should adopt the term here from henceforth to dispell he metaphysically of what @creativesoul has been wallowing about/'Over.

Hey, @Banno, what does Kripke have to say about "counterfactuals"?

Oh, okay. Sorry for the confusion.

Still don't know what you mean. There are many categories and every discussion is in one of them. All discussions are categorised. — jamalrob

I meant the default layout of the site, was voted on to remain as the way things are. When we voted on the issue it was about making the site categorized into each sub-division of philosophy.

What do you mean? — jamalrob

Well, based on what has already been said and voted on, we reached a consensus that the forums shouldn't be categorized, although that feature is available.

Impeachment will not prevail, as long as the economy is having such a huge rally.

It's just a matter of finding the right candidate for the next person in the office. Hopefully a woman.

I think this is spot on the dial. I agree that we should be more welcoming to various folk of all traditions. Since this site is composed of the majority of Westerners, then I don't think anything could be done in regards to the issue. It's unfortunate, that the categories cannot be implemented in practice due to the workings of the forum. Otherwise, we could have sticky and guidelines for each sub-forum, where the inhabitants of this forum might flourish.

Shit is real.

Now time to take my meds.

You're not a Stoic or a cynic, you're just a guy sitting next to his computer beside a stack of old pizza boxes. — Hanover

Whatever floats your boat.

Don't tell me how to express my love. — Hanover

Parade away!

What makes you interesting is that you truly don't care what others think, exuding an unapologetic confidence in your chosen path of shiftlesness. — Hanover

That's the inner failed Stoic, turned Cynic for you.

Don't assume we haven't. — Hanover

Keep in behind closed doors, if you will...

Could be worse for you and monkeys. You could be churning out the type of crap Hanover does day in day out. :monkey: — Baden

I still don't get your love-hate relationship with our fellow Hanover. Boggles my mind. You two should find a room and parade away there.

I'm still laughing over my last post. — Hanover

Glad you are. That was the intent anyways.

It's still some kind of an achievement anyway Wallows. — Baden

Monkeys typing away, one day hoping to write the entirety of Hamlet could have done the same if not better.

But you have access to the old thread? — Banno

I wish I did! Maybe someone could persuade @Paul to open source that database. He still has it. I doubt Porat or whoever was the accomplice on killing the old PF would even care if such a triviality happened.

You do too. You just will to talk about your lack of willpower. You've got 6,100 posts yet you insist you can't do anything. — Hanover

It's mostly undirected and haphazardous. Basically, disorganized.

I hope it has. — Banno

How so?

I'll leave it at that then. I wonder what Banno thinks or if his views have changed since the old PF.

People don't usually just spontaneously change. — Baden

What's your take on willpower? You seem to have an abundance of it.

As an example of how not to conduct philosophy, perhaps. — StreetlightX

But, @Banno thinks the sentence in question has something to tell us about how we use language.

Perception of who? — Baden

Someone depressed, anxious or what have you?

I wouldn't. — StreetlightX

So, it's trifle irrelevancy? I hold the view that the sentence in mind has import towards the philosophy of language.

Only the naive and the philosophical think that 'I love you more than words can say' expresses a statement about the relationship between words and one's love. One actually has to dumb oneself down to treat it like that, as most in this thread seem to have done. — StreetlightX

Then if we could start with a clean slate, how would you have commented on the superficial problem that that sentence poses in your view?

You simply apply that principle to your limitations. We all have some. — Baden

How do you overcome the perception that a person has an inadequacy or failure towards better mental health?

My take is if the problem is not having to do things for yourself, the solution is having to do things for yourself. — Baden

But, what if one is unable to take care of themselves? Doesn't this complicate the issue?

It doesn't. It just raises stupid non-problems mistaken for philosophical ones. — StreetlightX

But, if the sentence, "I love you more than words can say." is self-referential although indirectly, then it's a philosophical issue, no?