Your profile picture/thumbnail has the appropriate color, yellow. — skyblack

It's 100% yellow and 30% magenta, actually. Your Floridian thrift store monitor must be tweaked.

I was reading about a color theory the other day that claims black was the first recognized color by (wo)man. Allegedly, if you scan early texts black was the first color distinguished and mentioned. Next came white, then red, and so on. Blue was one of the latest, as I recall. Supposedly if you were to ask a primitive woman what color the sky was they would have said something like, "sky black". This in no way suggests that you are primitive. I'm sure that it's merely a coincidence.

That was actually a little funny. I didn’t think you had it in you.

Each time you post a brilliant insight the wise will show their support, of course. I was so inspired by your revelations that I immediately went out back, did my business, and then uploaded a shot of it to illustrate my appreciation and enthusiastic agreement with your address. What could be more human and less sacred than human do-do?!

I apologize that this turd appears rather unfirm. I haven't been getting enough fiber of late. Last night I made grilled hamburgers, which are low in fiber. They were good though, seasoned with fresh basil and other herbs, an egg for firmness and to retain moisture, a bit of cheddar and parmesan cheese, and a splash of soy sauce. So you're looking at a little bit of that in the photo above.

You're an American, aren't you? If you were raised in Europe, you'd learn early on to distinguish between art and mere craft (and kitsch). — baker

Before you seemed to be saying that only the art elite is capable of making such distinctions when you wrote, "Provided it's used by the right people, the ones who are in the position to determine whether something is art or not, and whether it's good art or not." Now you're saying that any school child (provided they're schooled in Europe) knows the difference.

Can you resolve this apparent contradition?

Both are a play on Russell's "In praise of idleness" — Banno

I don’t know the argument of how an increase in leisure time would result in increased involvement in the arts and sciences, but it seems to require a LOT of faith.

Amongst professional philosophers and there associates theism is overwhelmingly rejected. In forums such as this, there are a small number of theists who are quite prolific. This might give an impression that theism, or other beliefs in God are prominent amongst amateurs, but it's more likely that those who don't believe in god just ignore the threads. Perhaps giving the discussion it's own place will entice a few from them. — Banno

So having a topic titled “In praise of atheism” and designing it to entice the theistically uninterested will somehow change this impression? Perhaps you’re falling too deeply into the character of a bubble headed bleach blonde. :lol:

Maybe it would be a good idea to start a flaming thread so that you guys can get together on a friendly basis. — Sir2u

We’re actually the best of friends. Right, blacksky?

Love that guy! :heart:

Doesn’t seem fair to 3017 if the mods are going to bother him while he tries explain atheist irrationality for the hundredth time. Although the fact that the topic was moved to the lounge suggests a more casual attitude. Beating a dead horse is best done in a leisurely atmosphere, the message seems to be.

Good point.

Just warming up to you. — skyblack

So now you're trying to seduce me?

I think that I remember one of the mods, in their modly wisdom, pretty much threaten to ban 3017 if he brought up the subject again, so this whole topic is ill-begotten.

Sorry, I don't have many lines but bestiality is one that I don't cross.

Must feel great being you. — skyblack

Better after fat doobie or a nice cabernet, I must say, but I don't complain much. There's just one of me anyway. Must be nice having the variety of personalities that you enjoy.

You forgot to ping @3017amen

According to tests I’m severely right-brained (or left-brain damaged) and that may be why things like drawing have always been relatively easy. I try to achieve more of a balance by activities like participating in this forum.

But here is something I find interesting. A statue by Rodin, found in a building site is still art. But Carl Andre's Equivalent VIII found in a building site is just a pile of bricks. — Tom Storm

Not necessarily, many may not take much notice of a Rodin, disregarding it as mere decoration or whatever. Others may, for whatever reason, experience a shift in their mental state and see the sublime beauty of bricks.

:ok: :point:

Unfortunately, people like you can use them stupidly.

But the need for measurement and 'labeling' drops if you do not wish to do either. — skyblack

Ah, but labeling and social norms can be handy, can't they "sissy" man?

I think anything can be called art and that framing something this way is merely an invitation to view it aesthetically, which is a beautiful thing really. The world would be a better place if we more frequently viewed it aesthetically.

But of course there are more mundane and often manipulative reasons for defining something as art, masculine, or whatever.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to PM you.

Behind the cafeteria after homeroom then. Don't chicken out.

Okay, let's do it tough guy. :lol:

Well, we can't settle this in person unless you live in southern California so we'll just have to pretend fight I guess.

Let me guess. It’s a thought, and thought is a product of thinking, and thinking is the cause of all human suffer’n. Better to stick with the bear necessities, the simple bear necessities, and forget about your worries and your strife!

I think he means in the case of a zombie apocalypse or something, where you’re the only one left alive who’s meaning doesn’t center exclusively on eating brains.

Healing perhaps though from what I understand the problem isn't fragmentation but deep conditioning, and the shaman (and whatever's in their bag of tricks) essentially 'depatterns' that problematic conditioning.

Virtue isn't an end but more like a means towards eudaimonia. Living according to human nature (social and with the capacity of reason).

In Duerr's view, shamans learn to evaporate their "ego boundaries", thereby experiencing themselves in a different way; it is this feeling that can be described as shamanic flying. Duerr ties these shamanic practices into the werewolves of early modern Europe, arguing that these werewolves did not physically transform into wolves, but that they embraced their "wolf nature" by crossing over the boundary from "civilisation" to "wilderness". — Wiki

Interesting.

a movie was a bad idea, as would have been dinner. Try something more active next time (or tell me to shut the hell up, as you did not ask) conversing while in motion is usually much more productive and less "weird energy" builds up as both of you will be distracted with movement (whatever the movement is). — Book273

Good advice. Even better if it's something thrilling like skydiving, although that might be a hard sell. A shared adrenalin rush supposedly has a bonding effect. If you're really lucky it may also be arousing. Friends do thrilling stuff together so ya may still have a shot. Good luck!

If I recall correctly, in the book How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence, in regards to mindset it’s important to be ‘open’, no matter how unpleasant or terrifying the trip may turn. Is that your experience or do you have any other tips?

So you deliberately write in an obfuscating manner and when asked to clarify, demand to be re-read in order to screen out people who demand better writing? :rofl: — Noble Dust

I don't think that obfuscating is a fair characterization. A more accurate general characterization would be something like dense.

I've had limited success in StE (I think of it as DMN suppression) via meditation and would try psychedelics if it ever becomes less difficult to access. Psilocybin seems like it might be on the road to limited legalization.

You mention mindset & setting, and I know that's important from what I've learned of psychedelics. Did you have guided trips or otherwise try to properly set the stage?

My advice to you is, for what it's worth, don't reply to anything that you find challenging to read. — 180 Proof

Perhaps you deliberately write in a less accessible fashion to help screen the riffraff. Usually works in my case. :sweat:

Fixed.

Who said that?
— praxis

I can't post their real names. — baker

Because they'd be excommunicated for speaking such blasphemy?

I've found in some religious books. — baker

What books? If you're going to make claims like this you should be able to back them up.

The sentence of yours I'm quoting is actually the kind of thing I've heard from religious people as well, when they say things like, "Think for yourself, look into various religions and then objectively, without bias, decide for yourself which one is the right one." — baker

Who said that?