So individualist are in favor of antitrust laws? I thought y’all was all about FREEDOM!!
— praxis
Individualism really isn't a model for economics. In general individualism promotes freedom, but I think what you are not understanding is that while that is the case, it may not necessarily agree with what individuals use that freedom for. Much in the same spirit of the famous quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". — Tzeentch
That's a lie, I never claimed that individualism seeks to secure power over others. I said there may be the implication that an individualist wants to secure their power by eliminating the competition, ...
— praxis
That would make them a non-individualist, then. — Tzeentch
You claimed that individualism seeks to secure power over others. This is not the case, as individualism recognizes such things as every individual's right to self-determination.
What you're doing is trying to blame individualism for negative human traits like greed and will to power, which is exactly the type of mischaracterization that Harry Hindu pointed out earlier. You're framing individualism as a form of egotism, which it is not. — Tzeentch
As ↪Harry Hindu pointed out, individualism includes recognizing the rights of other individuals and not just one's own. If one is consistent in their beliefs, an individualist actually would shy away from positions of power over others. — Tzeentch
do you not have a rational basis (as opposed to an empirical one) for believing in the existence of justice or must faith also play a role? — Hanover
It seems to me that you are implying that there should be only one group and no competition — Harry Hindu
Do you want to go to a cardiac surgeon that is just trying a new procedure for the first time or would you rather that s/he had performed the procedure many, many times? — synthesis
I think a lot of the moderators have stopped commenting as much. Comments about moderation have dropped off. — T Clark
Why by lottery and not by free elections? — Harry Hindu
You're the one that used a single word to describe individualists, as if the two terms were essentially conflated, when you only need to take a second to see how that is just as much a property of collectives as it is individuals. — Harry Hindu
That's strange that you don't see the autocrat as someone that competed to get to the top of society. — Harry Hindu
Individuals are free to work with others if they so choose — Harry Hindu
I don't why you would think that competition is soley the characteristic of individualists. — Harry Hindu
Collectivists seem intent on limiting individual thought and imposing the thought of one individual on the rest. — Harry Hindu
it is fallacious of me to dismiss the anti-individualist argument because of the company they keep — NOS4A2
One cannot force these conditions on an individual and then claim one is entitled to their coorperation. — Tzeentch
Do atheists actively not want God to exist? — Georgios Bakalis
So your complaints are never about a fault in the idea of individualism, rather about the faults of the idea of authoritarianism. — Harry Hindu
The whole point of individualism is realizing that you are not the only individual, else you cease being pro-individual and begin being authoritarian. — Harry Hindu
using government as a tool to contiunously attempt to expand individual rights is a self-defeating ideal. — Tzeentch
You need to move beyond putting other people down. — synthesis
Like him or not, the guy defied all odds and went from being a game show host to POTUS. If you don't understand what an incredible accomplishment that is (regardless of your opinion of him), then you need to re-evaluate some things. — synthesis
As I have told you before, Trump is who he is, but you think he is a loser? Well, let's compare your resume to his. What have you accomplished in this life? — synthesis
Power hungry individuals are, sadly, everywhere. And by not giving them strong states to hold power over... — Tzeentch
Do you have statistics that suggest otherwise? — synthesis
Why do you think these people are so successful? Luck? — synthesis
Is that why the most successful groups in the U.S. are people of color...Asians. They are successful because they work their asses off. — synthesis

You mean like Somalia? — James Riley

The principle at play here, is that the moral and physical impositions of the collective undermine the interests of the individual. — Tzeentch
We recognize that as injustice, especially when the injustice is magnified by one's own moral framework. Can you recognize it too when one's own moral framework is what hides it? — Tzeentch
That essence, in India, has been called atma, the soul.
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... the whole society depends on personality, the state, the church, organizations, the establishment are all lies. — Anand-Haqq
In your scenario the culprit is Islamic fundamentalism.
— praxis
I don't think so. Islamic fundamentalism is an idea. — Tzeentch
Well I can only hope your love for family trumps your love for Trump and laissez-faire (fuck the working class) capitalism. Other than that, if I recall correctly, you claim to be a godless expatriate so no loyalties there.
I don't mind the concept of laissez-faire because it implies the state keeping their hands off of private affairs. But when corporations seek favor from state power my defense ends. — NOS4A2
Would you like a mathematical proof? — synthesis
