it appears in that case the "central committee" was fueling the conflict. — skyblack

The starting point of our interaction with others is appearance. Looking beautiful is all there is to success in society. — Wittgenstein

Are you advocating Communism? — Gnomon

in which everything in this world is one form or another of generic causal creative Energy — Gnomon

I agree the topic was a prop, but not because it was hiding ‘conflict addiction’( why do non-political topics on this site normally not generate the same heat?) — Joshs

The middle east was a proxy for issues much closer to home, having to do with our relationships with people in our own communities. — Joshs

The original meaning of the term, referred to meanings in minds. But it has recently been applied to describe the causal power (to enform) of Energy. — Gnomon

Since Energy is not a static property of matter, limited to a single form, it hops from one physical object to another. It's a general property of reality, not a specific property of any one thing — Gnomon

But, since quantum level Information (patterns, relationships) is mathematical, it actually occupies no space. So, compression doesn't destroy it, it just deconstructs the physical form that we can sense. — Gnomon

I mean come on your mode of engagement is to ignore what I’m saying because you know it all already. — DingoJones

If those involved in the discussion considered it meaningless they would not have reacted so strongly to each other. — Joshs

I made a number of points that you havn’t addressed — DingoJones

he was joking — Joshs

The difference between the middle east discussion and a general philosophical thread is that the former thread applied philosophical and political theory to a real world situation in which people are suffering and in which commenters have a lot invested emotionally. — Joshs

Participants identify strongly with what they see as victims of moral or even criminal immorality and cruelty — Joshs

To lose an argument is to let an atrocity go unchallenged. — Joshs

Ha — skyblack

The Big Bang Singularity is sometimes compared to a Black Hole, in which material information is compressed into something we would no longer recognize as matter. It's close to pure, un-embodied mathematical information. :nerd: — Gnomon

I said repeatable patterns of reliability. — DingoJones

Nobody has faith in reason. People have very repeatable patterns of reliability that prove its efficacy. — DingoJones

Which is still irrelevant but you're welcome to use the search function and read my 4,500 posts. I'm not going to do it for you. — Benkei

Since Hamas denies Israel exists at this point, admitting beforehand to land swaps would implicitly admit Israel has legal claim to any land in the region. — Benkei

I'm not going to divulge my identity you twat. — Benkei

Reason is not an authority, it is a tool one uses when one wants to make sense. — DingoJones

Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts.

Because it's irrelevant and I won't be offering such evidence — Benkei

Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.

Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.

The operative word there being "however". — Benkei

However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity — Hamas

I haven't even turned on the computer for 11 days! — baker

Yes, people do tend to whip out their crystal balls as an excuse not to work towards peace. Those are trust issues and it should be moved to where it belongs: negotiating. — Benkei

says the guy who came in here and couldn't answer a simple question after 4 attempts — Benkei

Atheism references no authority, you are making that up — DingoJones

The following definition, I thought, was agreed to by both of us:

Atheism: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Vaccine information is medical information, that makes it none of your business — Book273

Assuming I came to the debate not knowing whether to vote for Atheism or Theism and today is election day, who do I vote for based upon the respective positions submitted by our candidates? — Hanover

I like Florida's position: $5000.00 fine for any business requiring vaccination information from customers. — Book273

The vaccine thing I disagree with. — Book273

I don't think it's fascism to position yourself hard against reckless behavior. — Christoffer

Is there a problem here sir?

Hamas advocates the liberation of all of Palestine but is ready to support the state on 1967 borders without recognizing Israel or ceding any rights,” said Meshaal, in a shift that brings Hamas more into line with the position of Fatah.

The 1988 charter - Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - including present-day Israel - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with the Jewish state.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language. There was no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

Yeah, it's comments like this that disqualify you. It's funny how you like to pretend to be impartial though. — Benkei

The 2017 charter accepted for the first time the idea of a Palestinian state within the borders that existed before 1967 and rejects recognition of Israel which it terms as the "Zionist enemy".[2] It advocates such a state as transitional but also advocates "liberation of all of Palestine".