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Leftist forumOh boy, more straight up insults. I am forced to ask whether you think you, as a moderator capable of banning people from the forum, should be insulting people, creating personal antagonisms? I am not willing to respond to your repeated insults in kind, because I'll get banned. So please desist, or grant me license to speak freely. — counterpunch
You'll be banned anyway if you don't stop talking nonsense. -
Leftist forumOh FFS, "racist" is not a pejorative term against racists — Kenosha Kid
Exactly, simply because something has a negative connotation doesn't make it a pejorative. You can have adjectives that are both pejoratives and negatively connote and that are not pejoratives yet still negatively connote. Calling a person a "rat" is a pejorative, calling a rat a "rat" isn't, it's neutrally descriptive. Calling a black person a "nigger" is a pejorative, calling a racist, a "racist" is neutrally descriptive. Easy way to know is if the language is publically acceptable: can you read it in respectable newspapers, and hear it spoken by your elected leaders without objection. In the case of "racist", the answer is, obviously, yes. In the case of "nigger", the answer is, obviously, no. Of course, the right just adores to obfuscate and equivocate concerning language. It's often their only door to justification for their opinions. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)Our minds are mostly externalized nowadays and subject to potential policing and analysis as never before. A new kind of tyranny is becoming possible. — five G
I could certainly see the US government use domestic terrorism, especially if it continues in a more organised way, as a reason to impose measures that could negatively affect us all in terms of free speech. I don't think we're on that track yet but it's an open possibility. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)Or at least you get the government search engines to note that the user "Brett" on the site "Philosophy Forums" says "he supports terrorism" and that is then put to a huge database to be used possibly in the future. — ssu
Actually, it's not inconceivable the FBI will start asking sites like ours for IP addresses. The law on that is probably different in Europe and America, so I don't know the ins and outs of it. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)It's possible that the censored right-wingers will revolutionize communication somehow. — five G
Trumpers couldn't even revolutionise their revolution. I doubt technological innovation is their forte. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
I'm over Brett. Got super annoyed I couldn't get a straight answer out of him before. But whatever. Never liked Mike Pence all that much anyway. :lol: -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)I’ll go back to ignoring him as well. It’s pretty easy. I couldn’t help myself given the disgrace on Wednesday and his response to it. — Xtrix
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
Not reading any more of Brett. Thing about the extreme right is they are so entitled, they really think they are the victims if anyone stops them doing or saying whatever they want, whether that be infecting people with COVID, storming buildings to "assert" themselves, or refusing to condemn terrorism. And when confronted they cry and whine like babies and complain you're not being polite enough to them. -
Leftist forumClosing whine thread. (On second thoughts, some good posts above. Finish your convo, I guess.)
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
I see, we're not allowed call anything terrorism because of Arthur Miller's play, "The Crucible". Terrorism no longer exists when it's right-wingers doing it! Hurrah! No responsibility for them! It's excruciating watching you squirm like this and even more so watching you abuse a work of art while you do it. I'm finished with you. You're on my ignore list. But if you, or anyone, promotes terrorism here (so far you've equivocated), you'll still be banned in a shot and don't even think we're going to indulge any more of you playing the victim.
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)How hard could that be for someone who says they're not on their side? Even Ted Cruz could manage it. If you can't, we'll draw the obvious conclusions.
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
I'm an alley dog because I asked you to condemn the terrorists who attacked the capitol? Forget everything else. Just condemn them. Go on. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)Notice Brett's hapless attempt to pretend he didn't say what he said or wasn't referring to who he referred to is belied by the fact that he still won't condemn the terrorists in question. Case closed.
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
If that is the case then why when I mentioned the assault here:We must call this out for what it is: a deliberate assault on democracy by a sitting President and his supporters, attempting to overturn a free and fair election." — Brett
(specifically referring to those who attacked the capitol.)
did you reply with:The one thing all politicians fear: the people asserting themselves — Brett
And why won't you just condemn those people who attacked the capitol now? -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
I'm quoting your words as you asked me to. Look, I'm done, @Brett. If I'm wrong about your position, I challenge you to condemn the Trump terrorists who attacked the capitol now. If you won't, the obvious interpretation of your posts is the correct one. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
It's not support that you said you were "on the side" of the people who "asserted themselves" at the capitol? -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)Irish foreign minister calls out human shitstain.
Minister for Foreign Affairs, Simon Coveney: "We must call this out for what it is: a deliberate assault on democracy by a sitting President and his supporters, attempting to overturn a free and fair election."
— Baden
The one thing all politicians fear: the people asserting themselvesThey all have that fear and they all know their lines. — Brett -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
Who's side are you on? — frank
Obviously the people. These people shook up the system. I don’t have to like them to see that — Brett -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)Like, it's OK for Trump supporters to try to kill lawmakers and for you to celebrate that, but I'm the badly behaved one. Utterly deluded.
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
No, it's not only acceptable imo but obligatory to shut down terrorists. We don't need to be polite to them. Why on earth would you disagree with that? Anyway, until and unless you condemn what you earlier supported, you have zero moral ground concerning anything. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
My message for Trump terrorists and their supporters, including on this site, is simple: Fuck off and die. I make no apologies for that and never will. Neither should FB, Twitter, Amazon, or anyone else. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)I am zero upset that our internet masters have decided not to allow their platforms to be used to promote terrorism.
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
You (and NOS) expressed support for a terrorist attack on your own country's centre of government, an attack in which five people were killed. You can expect some pushback for that. I mean, what do you want, a pat on the back? -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)With the number of racists and fascists on the site atm, I'm worried you think I was being serious. — Kenosha Kid
:lol: No, man. I dig. -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)It's awful that the left-wing media supported the BLM protests but condemn these people for simply exercising their right to hold lynch mobs. — Kenosha Kid
Yes, attempting to hang Mike Pence is pretty much the exact equivalent of calling for racial justice. :brow: -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
I'm not sure. As a rule, I'm for minimal force. With proper training, there should be a way to prevent a threat without resorting to a lethal shot. And this was clearly that. What might mitigate the situation in this context would be:
a) An angry, potentially armed, crowd shouting that they wanted to murder the VP.
b) If there was a warning.
I mean, suppose he let the woman climb through the door and she was armed and intent on killing lawmakers? His career would be over if he wasn't already dead. There has to be a final line of defence and it would be totally justified to presume these people (as a group) to be terrorists considering what they were openly claiming they were going to do.
Again though, not enough information just from the video for me. (And I might add, I consider the woman mostly to be a victim of Trump and his cronies and it's a tragedy she was killed). -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)Trump insurrectionist being shot for those who want to debate it. Viewer discretion advised.
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)Trump won Democrats the presidency and the senate and destroyed the right-wing online media space almost in its entirety. All in the space of a few months. Undercover operative?
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
It's a long overdue purge. Well, they destroyed themselves. Less 4D chess than Tic-Tac-Toe.
Baden
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