Probably wishful thinking on my part. Sick of the orange monkey and his entourage of clowns.

Seeing as Trump is becoming increasingly irrelevant, this thread is likely to soon outlive its usefulness and fade away. Ditto for NOS.

From the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz:

"
Achieving the Impossible, Trump May Leave the Middle East Worse Than He Found It

Trump deserves praise for brokering normalization accords between Israel and the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, and Sudan is the latest to join the list. In exchange, each country received a gift package suited to its needs: the UAE got F-35 fighters; Sudan was removed from the list of state sponsors of terrorism; and Bahrain will get what’s left over.

But a deal of the century that would end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it isn’t. Trump didn’t work any miracles; he didn’t resolve a bloody conflict between Israel and any Arab state.

He gave a seal of approval to the continuation of the occupation and the annexation of the Golan Heights. He moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem. And he destroyed Washington’s status as a mediator between Israel and the Palestinians, and thereby any hope of a diplomatic horizon for both Israelis and Palestinians.

...

But the crown jewel of Trump’s business doctrine was actually a liquidation: his withdrawal from the nuclear deal with Iran in 2018.

...

Trump’s efforts to heal the quarrel that pitted Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the UAE against Qatar, which hosts the largest U.S. base in the Middle East, also failed. The economic blockade that the Gulf states and Egypt imposed on Qatar resulted in the latter forging closer relations with Turkey and Iran, which have formed an alliance that seeks to replace the pro-American Arab axis.

...

We can only hope that the next U.S. presidential term will be a boring one, devoid of passions and without a clown running the world.
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https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-trump-achieved-the-impossible-and-left-the-middle-east-worse-than-he-found-it-1.9284398

Out of context. In terms of hurting the other side, yes, he hurt Iran with that attack. But it could hardly be argued that that was a successful effort to forge peace. In fact, it almost led to a dangerous escalation.

... Of course, I'm wrong, Trump made peace in the Middle East, won the election by a landslide, and is a very stable genius. :brow:

You keep repeating this rubbish despite being refuted. So, again, Trump didn't do shit of substance in the Middle East. You can't make peace between countries that are not only not at war, but are not even in meaningful conflict. Meanwhile the parties that are in conflict, either directly or by proxy, eg. Israel, Palestine, Iran, still are, and are, in fact, further away from peace than ever due to Trump's one-sided approach, which included the inflammatory acts of relocating the US embassy to Jerusalem and withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal.

So, Trump's efforts at "peace" amounted to nothing more than granting a Netanyahu wishlist while attempting to bribe the Palestinians with a few billon to shut them up. That failed miserably, so he was reduced to this pathetic PR effort of "normalising relations" between Israel and a few Arab countries that had no part in the conflict. He did this for one reason and one reason only, so he and his sycophants could proclaim to an ignorant public that he made "peace" in the Middle East. Utter BS, the Middle East, in terms of the protagonists that actually matter, is further away from peace than ever.

Try and remember where you last saw it. — jamalrob

Not at a Trump presser for sure.

tl;dr. "Fuck Trump".

Bitcoin has been making moves lately and cryptocurrencies in general have been proving their utility. With talk of the digital dollar and digital euro in the air, I thought it would be a good time to resurrect this thread. (Also, I'm a convert.)

Who's in and where do you think it's going?

:lol:

This is why KGB agent @NOS4A2 hasn't been banned btw, he's a @jamalrob sockpuppet. :scream:

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The same point in every nation's history. — Michael

In some places, you're not an adult until you climb up a tree, stick your hand into a beehive, and steal a fistful of honeycomb. Not suggesting you do that, of course. Unless you really want to.

"There's been something quite beautiful about watching Trump's presidency being slowly euthanized by cold hard numbers and irrefutable facts, not so much going out with a bang but an untrustworthy liquid fart."

:fire: :100: :party:

Pretty much the same here in Europe. When the result is certain, it's over. Just be thankful that's after and not before the election like in some parts of the world. :wink:

:clap:

Fox News have started to behave themselves and I think the majority of Trump voters are accepting this defeat gracefully. The positive side of the American spirit is winning through here.

Giuliani's "fake election" presser.

Drinking Trump tears right now, baby. :razz: :kiss:

About a month ago, he put out a statement telling the UK no trade deal if they renege on their part of the deal with the EU that relates to Ireland. The House did the same.

:halo:

:100: If there's one thing America hates more than a loser, it's a sore loser. Trump is destroying himself better than any of his opponents could.

Boris is shitting a brick because Biden told him if he fucks Ireland over, no trade deal. Needless to say, Donnie won't like that a bit.

... Can those get you drunk too? :starstruck:

Celebrating the demise of Trump and his minions along with my winnings at the bookies the American way. :yum: :party: :party: :party:

Yes, and you can add that, especially in America, COVID is disproportionately affecting the poor who are just the ones who would have that fear.

:lol:



The GOP strategy from the start has been to accuse the other side of election fraud while trying to cheat their way to victory.

Why din' I think of that?? :cry:

Anecdotally, when I visited Texas, I noted two waitresses openly discussing their encounters with angels, and I don't mean the metaphorical kind.

+ Don Jr quotes Goebbels, calling for "total war".

The more the GOP reject democracy and embrace fascism and violence, the more they destroy themselves while achieving precisely nothing. Self-destruct mode.

The lead is extending. It will be in the tens of thousands. Recounts will change nothing in Pennsylvania.Trump lost the election. It is over.

He was fired.

Biden wins. Final electoral college outcome likely 306 to 232. A solid win and larger than Trump's over Clinton. As per the likely scenario outlined by pollsters such as 538. The popular vote predictions were off but state by state electoral results more or less as expected.

Georgia is going to Trump — Benkei

Just saw this. Biden is still favoured to win Georgia. It'll be very close though.

I do wonder what makes this process so protracted. — Hanover

Republicans would not let many states count mail-ins before the election for a start. Also, in Georgia, this is the first time in years they've been working from paper.

Anyway, it will likely be over soon when Pennsylvania reports a Biden win.

OK. But this better work out better than the time you told me to let my pet monkey shave my balls.

Trump has sent his thugs to Michigan to try to prevent the final votes being counted in a state Biden has clearly won (and has been called by some outlets). Absolute disgrace.

That's a lovely story. One to tell your grandkids. Anyhow, it's unlikely Pennsylvania (or GA or NC) will matter now. The map gives it to Biden with AZ, NV, WI, and MI.

Republicans refused to allow absentee ballots to be counted first in PA for this very reason. Very different narrative and much less confusion if they hadn't decided to play dirty.

I'm not considering the possibilty of cheating in my calculations. That would start a form of civil war, I expect. I doubt the establishment would allow it to happen albeit it's a definite possibilty.

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