• Bannings
    Meh, the guy had what, 25 posts in two years? Granted, they weren't any good, but there was no pressing need to get rid of him.SophistiCat

    And yet you'd be the first to complain about low quality if we let him post his OPs. So... what? We should run around deleting low-quality posters' stuff to keep you happy while not doing the obvious and banning them? Eh, no.

    Good call about the other three (if my count is right).SophistiCat

    You're welcome.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    You could not have asked for better than 125,000 dead from COVID, a huge economic recession, and the largest hike in the national debt of any president ever in one term?

    You must really hate America.
  • Coronavirus
    Florida is the new ItalyBaden

    Correction. It's already significantly worse than Italy ever was. Italy peaked at 6,000 deaths new cases per day. Florida had 9,000 new cases yesterday with just one-third of Italy's population.
  • Bannings
    Feels like Irish buses. Nothing for ages then three come at the same time.
  • Coronavirus
    Florida is the new Italy (current prediction if things don't change of 30,000 new cases / day by October). If it wasn't already going for Biden it is now.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida
  • Bannings
    A mod somewhere recently said something like if you’ve been posting a while and haven’t been banned yet, that’s good evidence that they think you’re generally good enough and worth keeping around.Pfhorrest

    I said that. Yes, it's good evidence but not a guarantee. Anyway, we rarely ban for low quality and unless you're in the bottom 5% of active posters, you've nothing to worry about.

    Btw: Banned @MathematicalPhysicist for low quality.

    Don't know what it is about today.
  • Bannings
    [Cross posted]
  • Bannings


    We are upholding the guidelines. If you are a consistently low quality poster, we consider that you are "obviously unsuited to the forum" and a summary ban is likely to be applied. And even if you're not, we only specify in the guidelines you'll "probably" receive a warning.
  • Bannings
    @DingoJones We usually just ban if the low quality is consistent enough for us to think the poster just isn't suited to the place. If it's a short burst from an otherwise decent poster, we'll warn. So, this is par for the course.
  • Least favorite moderators?


    Yeah, I heard of the Calvin Hobbes guy. He's good.
  • Least favorite moderators?
    I read all those words in your post and I'm not sure what I was reading. Although I'm not sure what those things were, I'll go on record as saying they are all stupid.Hanover

    Probably the names of all those video games he plays.
  • Fashion and Racism


    Ok, I'm going to leave it there anyway. As I said before there's an important distinction for me between unconscious and unwanted biases and conscious derogatory attitudes.
  • Bannings
    @christian2017 has been banned for low quality. I suppose now would be a good time to resurrect the accusation that we're picking on theists. Though we're not really.
  • Systemic racism in the US: Why is it happening and what can be done?


    Fuck, yeah. :cheer:



    I think street is bang on about consensus. Sometimes it needs to be forced rather than reached.
  • Fashion and Racism


    You seem to be backpedalling from the position I thought you were taking and saying that it is about black people (and their "look") rather than about particular clothes on anyone. So, I agree with @Judaka now on a less charitable interpretation.

    I don’t have this reaction towards all black people,Pinprick

    Yes, but if you only have this reaction to black people then that's racism. You still haven't said you're equally frightened by whites wearing these clothes. Are you?
  • Systemic racism in the US: Why is it happening and what can be done?
    Again here's the topic of the thread: Systemic racism in the US: Why is it happening and what can be done? and it will be kept strictly on-topic (off-topic posts will be deleted) as there is actually plenty to say about it.

    (In case it isn't obvious, the thread is primarily aimed at people who care about the problem and seek to offer an analysis of it and solutions for it rather than those who don't care and exclusively want to complain about the negative side effects of the popular response or crazy leftists or ANTIFA :scream: etc etc. You can go post on the other s.r. thread for that.)
  • Systemic racism in the US: Why is it happening and what can be done?
    Quote to me the poster who is defending systemic racism or who is denying it exists and I will happily argue with that person with you.Judaka

    I moved all of that to the other s.r. thread, which you should know about since you've posted there.

    but it's lost in the "offtopic" debates which are over 90% of the posts here.Judaka

    Laughable. It's you who don't know what the topic is and are proposing we "happily argue" here about stuff I made an entire separate thread for. Also:

    For me to spend my time talking about how there is systemic racism and there is a need to do something about it any more than I already have would be pointless.Judaka

    Yes, your posts have been pointless and off-topic and you won't be missed. Goodbye.
  • Systemic racism in the US: Why is it happening and what can be done?


    Congrats, you have achieved the necessary level of radicality for admission to the crazy batshit leftist club. @fdrake Mm, there's a sop thrown to the obvious problem and then every other effort made is to block conversation on dealing with it.
  • Systemic racism in the US: Why is it happening and what can be done?
    [Another off-topic and prejudicial rant about leftists]... Anyway, I'm out.Judaka

    :yawn:
  • Systemic racism in the US: Why is it happening and what can be done?
    Nobody prejudices against groups like you, nobody characterises people by their groups like you.Judaka

    Baden and StreetlightX are batshit crazy leftists who say all kinds of stupid nonsense, Benkei is possibly even worse and Isaac seems no better.Judaka

    Worth a chuckle. But let's get back on topic.
  • Why The Push For More Academically Correct Threads?


    Ah, yeah, not sure we'll run the poll again, but point taken.
  • Why The Push For More Academically Correct Threads?
    @Noble Dust We tend to be more sensitive to complaints about the site looking trashy and low quality than not open enough to the thoughts of common folk. The lounge then becomes our compromise. Having said that, any person of average intelligence should have the ability to write an acceptable OP for the main page (and my instructional OP on that is intended to help rather than be a strict template).

    The defining factor here for me is the presence of effort. Having strict standards philosophically could be considered exclusionary but requiring effort isn't. And if you haven't been banned, you can take it we consider you smart and able enough to participate in all aspects of the site, including writing OPs, and we only want to see evidence you respect the place enough to put some work in while contributing. Those who don't effectively exclude themselves. Where we might be culpable is not always being helpful enough in identifying how posters can improve. We may then unintentionally discourage them from trying to progress. But we don't set out to hurt posters' feelings or put them off posting further, it's more that we give priority to maintaining that minimum level of quality that we figure gives the place its intellectual character.

    Also, there is this poll from a while back, which suggests to me that the mod team and the community as a whole are pretty much in lockstep in terms of the standards they want to see here.
  • Does Philosophy of Religion get a bad rep?
    Oh, my bedtime, thank God-of-the-big-dick! Night all :kiss:
  • Does Philosophy of Religion get a bad rep?


    Hey, man, if you're scared, just say so!
  • Does Philosophy of Religion get a bad rep?


    It's sad when someone thinks theism vs atheism is a popularity contest. Worse when their attempt to prove God is the winner backfires by being so exquisitely silly. Anyway, good luck. You seem to have a good attitude, which is admirable. :up:
  • Bannings


    He was identified as a maths kook to me.
  • Does Philosophy of Religion get a bad rep?


    It's an odd thing for anyone to say. Almost like, "Look, God has a big dick too!" Anyway, this is the type of rubbish you can unfortunately expect in the PoR forums.
  • Does Philosophy of Religion get a bad rep?
    Philosophy of religion is a good place to start doing philosophy, but a bad place to stay.Banno

    Took the words out of my gob. It's a natural place to gravitate for newbies, especially newbie atheists who fancy themselves hot shit.
  • Fashion and Racism
    Maybe in some circumstances, but I’d consider it to be common knowledge what type of appearance is associated with gang or thug mentality.Pinprick

    None of what you mentioned would I associate with anything other than being young and wanting to fit in. Maybe shake off your Obama suit and loosen up, fella.
  • Bannings


    He's not an isolated case but perhaps suffers from a particularly virulent strain.
  • Bannings
    After taking advice from other members of the team, banned @Devans99 for low quality.
  • Fashion and Racism
    I expect the same level of criticism to be directed at those black people who intentionally dress a certain way in order to appear intimidating or thug-like.Pinprick

    But here, you're falling into talking about "black" people again. If you don't like certain types of clothes, fine, talk about that, but you can't infer from the fact that you find something intimidating that it is intended to be intimidating. And even if it is, so what? In some environments, you need to look intimidating to survive. Again, if white people wearing those clothes also intimidate you, you're not racist, but they are not to "blame" for anything either. They can wear what they like.

    But anyway, to expand the topic, I was also wondering about how this could also apply to things like accusations of police profiling. For example, police may very well pull over black people at a higher rate than white people for simple infractions like speeding. Some people, upon seeing this data, will then jump to the conclusion that the police are racially profiling. But, what if a large portion of these people pulled over dress in the way I’ve described? Do police have the right to become literal fashion police? I guess the point I’m getting at is that the issue of racism is much more nuanced than it is portrayed to be. It isn’t as simple as “white person treats black person bad, therefore racism.”Pinprick

    Maybe we should check if George Floyd was wearing a bandanna when he was publically lynched. All these protests for nought... No, this is just stupid.
  • Fashion and Racism


    If someone is genuinely concerned about whether they're racist, they are not engaged with that aspect of themselves even if it does exist (and unconscious bias, for example, is something most of us are afflicted with). That to me is a better position morally to be in than someone who doesn't think they're a racist but just doesn't care about racism or any other social prejudices. So, I agree, I don't think self-flagellation is what's needed here, but positive resistance against that in our society and in ourselves that is unjustifiable.
  • Does Philosophy of Religion get a bad rep?
    The same bad arguments get posted again and again by religious posters and get attacked in a similar way again and again by non-religious posters and it's all very boring and pointless. On top of that, it attracts creationists and other kooks who lower the quality of the site. That does not mean there is no worth to philosophy of religion or that a philosophy forum shouldn't have such a section, but more that it tends not to be utilised well and requires more work to maintain than other sections of the site.
  • Thread closed mid-post!
    I added it and reclosed the thread, which is now in the lounge. May it never be spoken of again.
  • God Almost Certainly Exists
    If you are referring to me, yes I understood what you were trying (poorly) to say and the miscommunication that was happening. I also understand that you are wrong, do not understand what you are talking about and have been as thoroughly refuted as Ive ever seen on this forum. Michael has been patient, clear, concise and gracious in this discussion and you didnt listen and dont understand whats being said to you.
    You sir, are the living embodiment the Dunning Krueger effect. You are too ignorant about probability and logic to understand why you are in gross error here.
    Im not trying to be rude. My hope is that you will be helped by these criticisms in the future, but its crystal clear that whatever learning you’ve done on probability and logic was the bare minimum education you needed in order to utilise these subjects to reinforce a conclusion you already reached/held. Ad Hoc I believe its called.
    So Im sincerely sorry to be the one to tell you that your critical thinking, logic and understanding of basic probability are very poor and fundamentally flawed. If you have any interest in understanding ideas like this you will need to learn or be taught basic critical thinking and logic.
    Maybe you really are some kind of genius at probability, destined for nobel prize and overturning all the experts in those fields with your new way of looking at them but you haven’t demonstrated that. You have only demonstrated where you lack understanding, which makes it all the more difficult to believe you are correct and we are to simple to understand your genius contribution to probability theory and logic.
    I know its going to feel like im attacking you, but Im not. Education sometimes feels that way when you have made large fundamental errors. This is a good example of Dunning-Krueger but if you think it isnt then please tell me how you excluded that as a possibility.
    DingoJones
  • Buddhism is False in regards to happiness


    The meaning of the word is the problem. You'd know that if you understood it.

    "The term happiness is used in the context of mental or emotional states, including positive or pleasant emotions ranging from contentment to intense joy. It is also used in the context of life satisfaction, subjective well-being, eudaimonia, flourishing and well-being."

    "...differing uses can give different results. For instance the correlation of income levels has been shown to be substantial with life satisfaction measures, but to be far weaker, at least above a certain threshold, with current experience measures. Whereas Nordic countries often score highest on swb surveys, South American countries score higher on affect-based surveys of current positive life experiencing.

    The implied meaning of the word may vary depending on context, qualifying happiness as a polyseme and a fuzzy concept."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness#:~:text=The%20term%20happiness%20is%20used,%2C%20flourishing%20and%20well-being.

    Clearly, without qualification, the term is absolutely useless in terms of any serious analysis.
  • Fashion and Racism


    Reading it again, it sounded a bit like that. But no, I think it's more likely he isn't racist as it happens.
  • Coronavirus
    Meanwhile, the Texas governor who said the economy is more important than life and death is getting his wish with lots of dead Texans and record numbers of new cases as the Coronavirus unsurprisingly keeps doing what it does when proper measures are not taken to stop it.

    Like a wet dream for "Freedom", ain't it 'Murica?