shows — Prishon

Thanks for the advice. Im using a phone. I think thats the problem. And the cause of me typing wrongly sometimes. These dials are so fu... da.. eeeh small. :). I as a new question about guns. Though I think this has been discussed a 167846 times already and well never reach agreement on that. I had a pressure gun once. If not, a ducklin would still live.

existence — Deus

No. But it is a more cowardly position.

essentially — Manuel

"There are no machines in nature. This point was proved decisively when Newton discovered action at a distance."

Isn' t the connected couple human body and brain (emerged in Nature, insomuch you can still speak of Nature) a machine? Not one made by humans but just evolved slowly. I dont see why action at a distance proves there are no machines. Action at a distance is matter "dominated". What forms the content of matter will always remain a mystery. Though we can feel it!!!

moment — Jack Cummins

It didn't all came from a point. Like I suggested in my question that would give the problem of what happened before the bang. What was the kick before? How could there have been a kick if there was no time yet? Was it the unmoved mover? I dont think so. The only way out is the quantum approach. The whole spatially 3d universe once existed around the Planck-sized mouth of a spatially 4d cut-open torus. There were field fluctuations (virtual particles) only. Time went to and fro or up and down. Then BANG!!!. Every virtual pair was driven outwardly on both sides of the torus. In 2d there two circles of matter, normal and anti, inflating away from the mouth. To become real shortly after. Like that multiple bangs can occur. Bang bang bang...

analog — Hermeticus

"Now this is where the interesting things happens. Neurons just go "true" or "false". But these "gates" decide what to do with the true or false. This is where the programming, the algorithm of the brain lies.

There is no programming. In the sense that a program is going on somewhere in other parts of the brain and that directs the flow of information, like in a digital computer. The information just follows a path of least resistance and this resistance is contained in connection strengths between neurons.

A further difference is that 1's and0's in a computer are driven by an external potential or voltage and current source. The potential peaks traveling in the brain don't need these (there are just out- and inflows of positive ions through ion channels along the dendrites). A totally different mechanism.

Death is necessary for you to be reborn again and start all over. Desth and birth are touching each other. The moment die I am reborn. Even with hundreds of billions years between them. That"s how long big bangs are separated from each other in time. After the big rip a big bang occurs. No big crunches involved. It could be that a big bang has already occured behind us but that would imply there can be two of me. Wich means that I'm not reborn again.

11mReplyOptions — Yohan

Golden rule for true wisdom: consider your own worldview, reality, truth, or however you wanna call it, as one among many and not the one and only true one.

That quo

short — Prishon

Why do you take a word like "Placing" out as a quote in isolation?

Same happens now. I push quote and there shows up a random word. I asked already to fix that.:) A hyperbole has its function. Of course not always. But only a government should be allowed to wear them. If not, the end is near.

god

"Those early humans should've killed each other off without religion, assuming religion is, as theists claim, a must for morality."

By the same token, they could have loved each other to dead.

what — javi2541997

I pay that every month to a health insurance company. My girlfriend too! Costs upto 380 euro I must pay myself. In Holland. I dont know about the shaman but virtually all alternatives have to be payed for. Not included in the assurance.

12hReplyOptions — Banno

I stack a needle in my arms before. But it didn't contain a vaccine. I think you want me vaccinated so you can hug me safely, without infecting me. Or are you just worried about my health?

the — Isaac

Sorry. The post above was not meant for you. My mistake. ☺

Placing — James Riley

It's my guess you are a military man. How can you care so much about others (by getting vaccinated) while at the same time you wear a gun? Guns always worsen the situation, especially in the USA, where unheard teenagers make themselves heard by shooting. This disease is slowly spreading the globe. I can get protection (like the vaccine) by getting a gun too, but this only worsens the situation. Likewise you can argue that vaccinating is good for everyone but this is short-term thinking. In the long run it gives weak people, dying already of a cold.

drugs — Prishon

You think Mozes was high on dope?

, — Isaac

It's my guess you are a military man. How can you care so much about others (by getting vaccinated) while at the same time you wear a gun? Guns always worsen the situation, especially in the USA, where unheard teenagers make themselves heard by shooting. This disease is slowly spreading the globe. I can get protection (like the vaccine) by getting a gun too, but this only worsens the situation. Likewise you can argue that vaccinating is good for everyone but this is short-term thinking. In the long run it gives weak people, dying already of a cold.

Reincarnation means re-entry in the flesh. If the soul is tied to matter it can't transmigrate. But my soul-matter state can apoear again. But not in this universe. A new big bang is needed. There I reapoear again. The moment I die. It takes hundreds of billions of years though...

Maximum information is useless. Nothing interesting going on. The chaos is maximal. The same holds for total order. Both can be described in one single line. Interesting things happen in-between. You can write books full about that "state" of intermediate order.

understand — javi2541997

"is there really anything considered as God (s)?"

Yes there is. Really.Is there really only the universe we live in? No. There are gods, dreamtimes, walhallas, quarks, leptons, curved spacetimes, Calabi-Yau manifolds, nirvana, witches, shamans, ghosts, vampires, dadaist programmes, field fluctuations and virtual particles, art, poetry, photographs, a zillion languages (though that number is decreasing rapidly to be taken over by English and math, the allegded native tongue of Nature), Bessel functions, hidden variables, untrue Higgs mechanisms, rishons, lies and deceptions, Tavistock manufactured shocks, deliriums, drugs, visions, dreams, jealousy, parables, allegories, computers, quantum fields of gold, musical trance, false flags and black ops, conspiracies, trains of thoughts, solitude, moonlight drives, strange little girls, Siouxies, Aboriginals, Hopi (though less and less, psychoses (maybe drug induced), euphoria, fears, mosques, temples, proofs, etceteras, and many more. If that is no proof of god, I don't know what is. What is a proof of god? An actual encounter? Who would believe you? Mozes spoke to him. Received messages. There were even mass revelations. But normally they don't show themselves. Especially in these days. They showed themselves to the old Greek untill the One-entity, this monster of Xenphanes replaced them. Still around today...

argument — javi2541997

"Why the universe is not a proof of human's awareness?"

Human awareness indeed shapes the universe. It shapes the perception of it. There is not a true shape to create a true perception. Perception and reality are interdependent. But this whole process of percept and shape is a process that is part of a universe created by god(s).They didn't shape the world in a fixed form. Even the Aboriginal dreamtime is a part of it. The big question is though where the gods themselves came from and if we really need them .I don't.

exist — Prishon

Which is not to say I need god(s) in whatever I do. They cant tell me what to do, they can't tell me what's right or wrong, they dont inspire me, and they can't tell me or know what's in store, or how to think, etc. I can curse them, talk to them whenever I want, and they might even listen to all of us. But I wont go to hell, that's a place I don't want to go. Nor heaven. I just wanna come back in a new universe and god(s) provide...

Lll

without — javi2541997

"Universe and earth exist and can exist even without the human awareness. "

I didn't say they couldn't. I said their existence is proof of God(s).

end — TheMadFool

"There is light at the end of this tunnel :sweat:
"

No! Its another train...:gasp:

God — javi2541997

The existence of it is proof.

the — javi2541997

Thanks for the advice. I will wait to see what happens. Curious what to see no between the quotemarks.:)

about — javi2541997

"The world does not show us proofs or principles to believe in God at all"

What about the world itself? God(s) created it and the universe being there is proof of that.

between — apokrisis

"I can see you are certainly mucho impressed by your own arguments. But Newton likely had his reasons for distinguishing between vis impressa and vis insita, don’tcha think?"

Why do you see I am certainly impressed? My arguments impress but i'm not not impressed by them. Certainly not. Maybe Newton had his reasons but that only shows he didn't understand vis. Vis impressa and vis insita just can't be causing one another as he implies. He just didn't understand force. He knew how to use it. And that's where his mistake originated.

If you pay taxes, the state must be held responsible. They should at least make sure, for people with less money, to be assured of proper medical care. Whatever kind of care is needed or wated (so even witchcraft doctors).

I pay, OBLIGATORY, 125 euros every month and must pay nevertheless 380 euro as my own contribution! And I have to pay a visit to a shaman myself. That pisses me off! I think I need a doctor... I get stressed by these kinds to worry about (not to think about the destruction of Nature...)

does — Corvus

It follows when one says, God does not exist, it it "same meaning as God does exist."

Ëxactly! :)

Do you know where I can ask about these damned citations appearing every time?

8mReplyOptions — javi2541997

Also humanists need subterfuge. Not in gods though. Im not sure though in what.

apparent — Banno

If there is a god, shouldn't his presence be overwhelmingly apparent?

What about the world and all creatures living in it?

unfathomably — khaled

If I am the robber actually not want to rob then people taking the vaccin are the robbers actualy robbing and wanting it too! Forgive for saying but then you are doubly bad.

that — apokrisis

Translated in Dutch:

Wet 2. Verandering in beweging is evenredig met de opgedrukte aandrijfkracht;
En wordt in lijn gemaakt wanneer de kracht wordt ingedrukt.

"De kracht wordt ingedrukt". The force is impressed. I would I could contact the guy who wrote that. You either impress or force. The meaning is clear, but hearing that phrase over and over makes the force look as an object. Using these words over and over poisons the mind, like small doses given each time. :)

19mReplyOptions — javi2541997

"There is no subterfuge"

People themselves are the subterfuge in the humanist case.

that — TheMadFool

" seem as able"

Indeed, seem. The brain functions on completely different priciples as those for a digital computer. If I think of a chess board there is litteraly an analogue pattern in the brain.

body — TheMadFool

"and remember, I don't think we are just material but for this question's sake I do"

There is soullike stuff. I just think it is tied to matter. Non-transferable.

must — InPitzotl

"Why not? What's wrong with this argument that the energy of the photon must be lost?: E=hf. h is a constant. f is going down. Therefore, E is going down

The energy of a photon is not lost. In a frame that co-expands with the photon field, then there is conservation of energy. The energy loss is only apparent because the distances between the rishons in our galaxy don't expand along.

reincarnation — Tom Storm

It is not only a possibility, it is an inevitability. That is even more to swallow.

it — javi2541997

". Not believing in God is is just a normal state. I do not need any celestial subterfuge to praise or interpret my life. I want to live it with my own self and responsibility."

The superstition is that you don't need it. That is the subterfuge.

don't — TheMadFool

If that hurts you I wont do that. Unless the robots become too many. Threatening Nature.:wink: