• Perception
    They just "know' that what one says or writes is a function of one's biases, not of the meanings of the words.jkop

    You could hardly be recognized as biased if your expressions were meaningless.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)

    The first paragraph is Plank 1.5 of the Libertarian Party platform. Libertarians oppose abortion legislation. This is not rocket science, praxis.
  • Perception
    That brings up the issue of understanding the biases of those who step back from sciencewonderer1

    Yes. That's also part of phil of sci.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    No, conservative libertarians don’t think that women should have the liberty to choose.praxis

    It's a plank of the Libertarian party platform that abortion shouldn't be legislated. here
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)

    He was saying that our present approach to abortion is more libertarian than it used to be because states can decide what they want to do.
  • Perception
    It baffles me that people still think it's a matter for philosophy, as if we can use a priori reasoning to figure out the nature of sensory experiences and their relationship to distal objectsMichael

    I agree with your take on the issue, but philosophy isn't just about using apriori knowledge. It's partly about stepping back from science to understand the biases it operates with.
  • Climate change denial
    the explosion of human population growth happened as a by-product of the industrial revolutionunenlightened

    I thought it was the invention of fertilizer. The global population begins its exponential rise around then.
  • Ukraine Crisis

    Why did Putin do it then? Is it because he would have eventually lost power if he worked on making Russia healthy?
  • Ukraine Crisis

    Won't Russia become more and more hollowed out economically?
  • Ukraine Crisis

    How long can Russia continue going as it is? Forever?
  • How to Justify Self-Defense?
    The circumstances can inform us of how to act, but they never dictate whether an action is right, wrong, or neutral. If stealing is wrong, then one should not steal: period.Bob Ross

    Likewise it is wrong to injure yourself.
  • How to Justify Self-Defense?
    Remember, my original point was that, all else being equal, one should let themselves continue to starve because the only action they can take is to stealBob Ross

    Letting yourself starve is a crime against yourself. You wouldn't let a dog starve, how could it be right to let yourself starve?
  • Avoiding costly personal legal issues in the West
    In Ohio you can just go to the drugstore and buy the paperwork for a divorce. It's cheap. You fill it out with your spouse, appear before a judge, and you're divorced. It's easy
  • How 'Surreal' Are Ideas?
    Dali's surrealist representations of clocks and watches as flowing and ubiquitous allow the symbolic to "leak through" the concrete, unifying both into a greater whole that's psychologically enriching.Baden

    Yea, I like poetry and any kind of art that barely makes sense because of that. Life dwells in that open space between facts, if you know what I mean.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Being offended is not a substitute for an argument. Only Islam is ever afforded this level of immunity from criticism. But this isn't Starmer's Britain; it's a philosophy forum.BitconnectCarlos

    I don't care whether you understand why religious tolerance is a requirement. Just stop talking about Muslims as if they're all villains.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Earth to frank, Islam isn't a race. It's an ideology that seeks to spread itself to every corner of the globe. And it just so happens to subjugate women, minorities, and animals virtually everywhere it goes.BitconnectCarlos

    Ok. You're demonstrating religious intolerance. That's just as unacceptable. No, they don't subjugate women everywhere they go. They conform to the laws of the lands in which they live.

    You're painting the whole global population of Muslims with one color. Stop it.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Israel is ground zero in the conflict between West and Islam. If Israel falls, Europe is next. Europe is already feeling the pressure. How democratic and tolerant can a society be towards those who are fundamentally undemocratic and intolerant? Such questions test the limits of western democracy. We should all be uncomfortable.BitconnectCarlos

    You're getting kind of racist here, and you're also wrong. Islam has no conflict with democracy and it is in no way a threat to either Europe or the rest of the West.

    Earth to Bitconnect, you're getting delusional.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    They got RFK's endorsement though. According to polymarket, they are (very slight) favourites to win now.Baden

    I wonder if they're calculating that by the popular vote or by predicting how the swing states will go. Probably by swing states.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Harris and Walz seem bullet proof while Trump and Vance can't catch a break. I wasn't expecting this.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)

    The unemployment rate was still at historic lows during that time, which wasn't really a good thing from a neoliberal pov.
  • Modern Texts for Studying Religion
    Yes, those churches are mentioned in that book. At first they couldn't tell if they were Christian or Buddhist.


    :up:
  • How 'Surreal' Are Ideas?

    The idea of surrealism comes from the belief that we deal with reality indirectly by pulling it apart into pieces. Maybe we can experience it more directly when the intellect is offline, as in dreams, or in poetry.

    Ideas are pieces of something bigger, which is implied in the way that ideas are inextricably bound to materiality, as the idea of a horse is bound to particular manifestations. Look deep into matter, all the way down, and ideas are always there.
  • Modern Texts for Studying Religion
    I am especially interested in something covering the history of Islam in more historical/anthropological terms too.I like sushi

    Religions of the Silk Road, by Richard Foltz
  • Perception
    That it has to be pointed out that pain and colour are different shows the culpability of both your lines of thinking.Banno

    I don't what follows from the fact that pain and color are different. I might be hopelessly lost.
  • A quote from Tarskian
    Political hierarchies are not natural but artificial and conventional.NOS4A2

    Since most of the human race is dependent on them, I guess that makes us artificial. We made ourselves, with a lot of luck.
  • Perception
    Long ago, someone who has posted on this thread insisted that Mount Everest did not have a height until it was measured. Pragmatism and Pierce and stuff had led them to this opinion.Banno

    Philosophy has corrupted the minds of the young. Again.
  • Perception
    Which concept? Current? Object? Conviction? Strained?Banno

    Current is an object like a waterfall is an object. The water flows over the rocks. I guess you could think of the waterfall as a property of the rocks, but that's kind of weird. It's more like something that's happening to the rocks. Likewise, current flows in a conductor, like iron. The flow is something happening to the iron. Anyway, we usually talk about current as a thing, not a property.

    Are you going to defend pressure, heat and torque in the same fashion?Banno

    I could.

    And just to be sure, I'm not claiming the distinction between primary and secondary qualities cannot be made, but that it is difficult to maintain, and not of as much use as other notions.Banno

    It's like a lens through which people see the world. Color is mental, length is not. Does it fall apart at the edges? I think it probably does, but so does every way of thinking. There is no complete package. That's why philosophy never ends.
  • Perception
    Hmm. Not convinced. Seems strained.Banno

    I don't think you're familiar with the concept.
  • Perception
    So are you suggesting that the electric current is known distinctly by the jolt felt? And that this is much the same way we know distinctly that some object is solid, or round?

    Ok. Again, it doesn't work for me
    Banno

    Current is an object in its own right. It's a flow of electrons (or holes, depending on your point of view).
  • Perception
    110v is for 'mercan big girls blouses. Real Men (or children) get the full 250v. Makes your hair stand on end, that does.Banno

    I bet it does. :lol:
  • Perception
    I'm not sure how current is "distinctly known".Banno

    Not a member of the 110 club, then? That's people who've been shocked by 110 volts AC. I've been a member since I was a kid.
  • Perception
    So the list of primary qualities includes electric current, speed, pressure, torque, potential energy, luminosity...Banno

    Current is measured in amps. Why do you think it can't be measured?