It's quite disheartening for me to see Americans have such an attitude about such an important proceeding. — creativesoul

Agree. How corrupt has our nation become if a violent coup cannot wake them from their slumber.

If a form isn't material then what is it made of? — Gregory

A basketball is spherical. The material is leather. The form is a sphere.

As you know, this is posited as 'God' by Berkeley in his version, 'immaterialism'. — Tom Storm

The world is just a thought in the mind of God. And yet, Berkeley was also an empiricist.

This commission is still a farce. — Xtrix

Because?

No, this commission. Another chance for ratings. Like the Mueller report and impeachment trials before it. I wouldn’t get caught up in this stuff. They’re all trying to recapture the supposed glory days of Watergate. — Xtrix

Trump attempted a violent coup.

To argue there are profound differences because of this ridiculous media farce really isn’t serious. — Xtrix

The media farce of Trump's violent coup attempt?

Both parties are corporate parties— but asserting they’re the same isn’t exactly true. There are minor differences which we have to acknowledge, however we dislike them. — Xtrix

Trump and the GOP tried a coup. The House Democrats are trying to get Trump indicted for crimes. I would say there is a profound difference between the two parties.

what do you mean exactly? I was metaphorically comparing something metaphorically. So what if you didn't ever experience my metaphorical experience? that's not really something I would expect anybody to reply with that's like making a big deal out of the tape used to hold the box together that had the present inside it only cats and retarded kids do that, I thought I was here to talk to Honey Badgers — MAYAEL

ok

no they only think that it brings them some form of enlightenment is all it does is impress them kind of like a kid on a roller coaster ride — MAYAEL

No. I never had that experience.

The same goes for seeing anything; it makes no sense to say we see things directly or indirectly; — Janus

Agree.

My times with LSD have been profound.

So is free will. — Joshs

Which is why I do not find debates about free will very enlightening.

If free will exists , then does evil exist? — Joshs

Evil is a theological concept.

Newton stated that God caused the physical laws of science. It is not a casual association of deterministic science and Christian theology.

I guess it does , but doesnt it substitute probabilistic for deterministic measurement? — Joshs

Yes. Which is always how I've lived my life. The deterministic model never made sense to me.

I’m thinking of such approaches as enactivism, phenomenology, postmodern perspectives like poststructuralism and hermeneutics. — Joshs

Quantum mechanics refutes the deterministic model of classical physics.

Would that addicts could all be as productive as Freud! — Bitter Crank

Or Churchill.

The prevalent understanding of consciousness is that it is either identical to or an emergent phenomena of brain activity — Michael

Only for physicalists.

Information comes in many forms. Text, audio, video, what's the difference? — punos

Passivity. Notice, you only told me to look at the video. You made no argument and did not address my comment.

Of course.. that's why you don't understand what is even being discussed here. I won't waste your time or mine anymore because you obviously just want to believe what you just want to believe at all costs. That in itself is interesting to me.. human nature got to love it. — punos

You certainly must know many people read philosophy books and journal articles addressing free will.

This is the reason why posted the Sam Harris video, to help you understand what is actually being addressed here. Sam Harris gives a pretty thorough explanation of the process you think of as free will or choice. Did you watch it? Take your time, and think about it, there's no hurry. — punos

I never watch videos. Nothing personal.

You think you have free will, and you did have to. — punos

I actually do not understand the idea we have no free will. I chose to respond. That is all I mean by free will. Not some metaphysical or psychological notion of having absolute freedom.

Why is it so difficult to provide just one reasonable account or mechanism by which freewill can be realized, even if just a hypothetical one? Anyone?? — punos

I have free will to respond. I did not have to. Otherwise, I do not know what you mean by free will.

I see you're a right winger.

Of course it doesn't really matter because the two parties are the same party with differing heraldry. — Streetlight

Democrats impeached Trump twice. How are they the same party?

Also, given the amount of people who do drugs, if it had a positive effect on the thinking process, we'd probably have a lot of great inventions/discoveries from high people, which is not the case. — Skalidris

Freud was said to be a regular cocaine user.

The fact that Trump he is STILL not indicted, the fact that Garland might refuse to prosecute, the fact that this obvious traitor might well run again, and WIN, speaks volumes otherwise. — hypericin

Agree.

LSD was very educational.

The Democrats are doing everything they can but the situation is diabolical. — Wayfarer

Adam Schiff has said the DOJ should have been doing their own investigation. Trump should have been indicted by now.

Do you agree? — creativesoul

One motive: Delegitimize the election. There is not a single bit of evidence the election was improper.

Trump supporters' doubt about the legitimacy of the 202 American presidential election is/was not based upon the motives you've proposed are the officials'. — creativesoul

Same. The right wing thinks our government is not legitimate and thinks Trump needs to be a dictator.

Then don't read my posts. All you do is make personal attacks. Goodbye.

I think the vital question now is, why is the Democratic party so utterly impotent in the face of the outrageous criminality of the Republicans? In a functioning political system, the Republican party would have been destroyed forever a long time ago. — hypericin

Agree. Biden talks more about Ukraine than his own country.

I know the difference. You failed to refute what I said.

Which they might. — Wayfarer

Depends whether AG Garland prosecutes Trump. He must.

What grounds the belief that Trump won? — creativesoul

What do you mean by "grounds?" I answered the question and you keep posing it again.

Then we can examine the specific beliefs that ground the doubt regarding the legitimacy of the election. — creativesoul

That Trump won, not Biden. I said that. I must not be understanding you at all.

Then we can look at what beliefs that doubt is founded upon. — creativesoul

Sorry, I do not understand that sentence.

I'm looking for an explanation consisting of more philosophically interesting substance. Not political speech. — creativesoul

Not sure what you are asking for.

Since the time of Plato, belief just meant weak knowledge. Not seeing much of philosophical interest beyond that. Or in religion, which is deliberately self deceptive.

Doubt in the legitimacy of the government, based upon what? — creativesoul

Based on they want power and want to delegitimize all existing norms.

Be nice for you to unpack that. Doubt of what, based upon what? That's the philosophically interesting approach, keeping in line with the OP's topic. — creativesoul

Doubt in the legitimacy of the government. Not coming from Democrats.