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  • What Was Deconstruction?
    ↪Joshs

    "Derrida insisted that he is not a skeptic."

    Yes, and I do not agree.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    I prefer Kant to Hege — Moliere

    Indeed.
  • To What Extent Can Metaphysics Be Eliminated From Philosophy?
    Until God became a ghost in his own machine… — Wayfarer

    Indeed.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    I agree that Hegel is a concrete thinker, tho -- just fy — Moliere

    Many read the section "Absolute Knowing" in the Phenomenology as saying dialectical history comes to an end. Hegel is criticizing subjectivity and saying we are in the stage of objective knowing. Like you said, a concrete thinker. Thus Hegel is not a skeptic.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    . Do you think that's unfair? — Moliere

    See, Hegel is a concrete thinker. Many do not get that. So I get the idea criticizing dialectic, but in the end, Hegel means nothingness, or an irreducible otherness. I am saying Derrida idealizes otherness.


    As the artist Frank Stella said, "All I want anyone to get out of my paintings is the fact that you can see the whole idea without any conclusion . . . What you see is what you see."
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    I think he's trying to actually move outside of Kant's categories, but knows that in so speaking he would already set up an opposition which would create a Hegelian sort of dialectic... — Moliere

    The concept of otherness ( "differance") came from Hegel which influenced Levi-Strauss and Saussure. Kojeve's works on Hegel were very influential.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    "the real object" is understood in a general sense of descriptions for all objects. — Moliere

    Derrida is a Kantian.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    I think skeptic is a good epithet; with respect to scientific knowledge and such I think he really is a skeptic. But, one, I don't see that as a bad thing. And two, I think his skepticism is confined to a tradition. I don't think he's a universal skeptic. — Moliere

    Skeptics posit a totality which cannot be had. Platonism. The real object cannot be conceived.

    I am not a skepic.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    Maybe the other way around or maybe they evolve together. — Clarky

    They are ways people think about the world.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    Deconstruction is supposed to be the method by which we discover this super-transcendental, and perhaps, get to something real and lived, what is between the binary — Moliere

    Fair assessment. In the end, I see Derrida as a skeptic.

    Probably his most accessible essay is, "Differance."
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    Yeah, that's my impression, for the most part. Analytic philosophy is more popular in US phil. — Moliere

    I read some Derrida in grad school. There was a Heidegger professor who occasionally gave a Derrida class.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    Go back to Charles Ferraro's comments and resopond. — charles ferraro

    huh?
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    Derrida is still cited with frequency by some it seems. — Tom Storm

    Who are these "some?"
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    ↪Moliere


    I do not think Derrida or deconstruction is much a topic in US philosophy departments. I mean, it never really was--mostly in comparative literature departments.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    To what extent is Deconstruction still practiced in philosophy? — Tom Storm

    I don't think it is a live topic anymore.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    the most advanced digital technologies available today are the final products of philosophical underpinnings contributed by Leibnitz — Joshs

    Russell credits Leibniz with inventing mathematical logic.
    Leibniz talked about the universe itself being a computer.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    Ok. So it's a cryptic reference to Plato? — Tom Storm


    Seems to be verbatim from Plato.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    s I understand it, it's Michel de Montaigne: "To philosophize is to learn how to die." — Tom Storm

    He is citing Plato. There would be no need to do philosophy if we were gods.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    Did you guys know that to philosophize is to start dying? This was credited to some philosopher. — L'éléphant

    Socrates/Plato.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    In science,metaphysics is an archaic word replaced by speculation in science. — jgill

    Yes, why philosophy is not science.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    metaphysics is the set up underlying assumptions, — Clarky

    Pretty much how Aristotle defines it as "first philosophy."
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    They’re is no clear definitional distinction between philosophy and science. — Joshs

    I never heard that before. Please explain.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    No, a philosophical worldview is the basis of a science. If science progresses , then philosophy progresses. — Joshs

    Science describes physical particles. Philosophy is not limited by physicality.
  • To What Extent Can Metaphysics Be Eliminated From Philosophy?
    Quantum mechanics is happening in ‘you’ all the time, I think. — universeness

    Agree.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    I don't think you can demonstrate that nothing further or new is possible. — Tom Storm

    The very notion seems absurd.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    Do you think there is progress in science? — Joshs

    Yes. But philosophy is not science.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    ↪Clarky


    Contemporary philosophers debate whether there is progress in philosophy. My first answer is no, because there does not need to be progress. Qualified, sometimes there are vigorous debates and people accept a consensus view, which might be called progress.
  • Has every fruitful avenue of philosophy been explored/talked about already?
    Bearing this in mind I still have noticed there seems to be a lot of "touching on" and "proposing alternatives" that don't often lead too far or gain traction, again as far as new/original/undiscussed ideas and concepts go, at least from my view.

    Would you agree with this assertion or no?
    — Outlander

    No.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    Or, more circumspectly, he could get more out of it if he wanted to. — Moliere

    Yes, he reads Derrida from the position of literary criticism.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    At least, I have a hard time connecting what he says to what I've read. — Moliere

    The author: "Timothy Brennan is a professor in the humanities at the University of Minnesota."

    So, he is not a philosopher.
  • To What Extent Can Metaphysics Be Eliminated From Philosophy?
    If I understand correctly, it is well established that quantum mechanics only applies at the subatomic, atomic, and small molecule scale. — Clarky

    Well, one could science only is true in labs or mathematics.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    Can you see, from your interpretation of Aristotle, how he might serve as a contrast case to Derrida's philosophy, which is not "based on observing others and people who seem to be happy", nor did he write a physics with a reflection on said physics in some ultimate sense? — Moliere

    Derrida wrote an article on Aristotle, called "White Mythology." Been a while since I studied it and do not remember what he said about Aristotle.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    based his ethics on human biology (which, for him, was teleological) — Moliere

    No. Based on observing others and people who seem to be happy.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    sort of one of the originals to treat philosophy in a scientific mode, — Moliere

    This is not true.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    It's an interpretation, not a quote — Moliere

    I did not say you were quoting.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    What would it mean to reject a method of reading? — Moliere

    To use another method that is better.
  • What Was Deconstruction?
    Derrida's philosophy isn't the philosophy of Aristotle, where philosophy is a body of true propositions validated by the best scientific methods of the day and then speculated upon — Moliere

    I've read Aristotle and never saw him give such a definition. Can you refer to something in his texts to support that?
  • To What Extent Can Metaphysics Be Eliminated From Philosophy?
    The secular mainstream still firmly believes in physicalist determinism and causal closure despite all that. — Wayfarer

    Yes. Newton's determinism was based on God as the supreme lawgiver.
  • Antinatalism and the harmfulness of death
    Reason does not tell us that death is a harm. — Moses

    Death is part of nature. Like being born or eating food.
  • The “hard problem” of suffering
    1) dying is often done with family and friends and is often the first time people have felt connected to others in many years. — Tom Storm

    Thank you for explaining. You were referring to death, not other kinds of suffering.
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