Sometimes it takes a decision. Once that's done, it becomes clear it was always a decision - whether one knew it or not. — tim wood

Transgender six year old. Absurd or not? Take a decision.

Don't encourage me to rant, here! — tim wood

I don't encourage anyone to rant, ........................well maybe sometimes. :halo:

It's a bit rich to insist on a detailed project plan at this stage... — Banno

Not really insisting, more like asking if he has any new ideas that are maybe not as well known as those we see in the news papers everyday.
Basically the post is a summary of what most reasonably informed people know already, but they known for years and very little is being done to fix any of the problems.

Supermarkets now want to sell/fine you for using plastic bags, but half of the products you buy are wrapped in one use plastic. And the common person does not give a shit about it.
Not many want to give up their cars and take the bus or the train and it would cause havoc the day even 20% percent of them did actually try.
There are too many people in the world and they are living longer but no one can stop people from having kids. China tried and look what happened to them.
There is not enough food to feed all of the people in some places, but tons of food are thrown away everyday in other places.

Up until now I have heard lots of people saying that something needs to be done, but I have not heard of really feasible plans to do it.

a bit like asking for a second engineer's report when the wing has fallen off. — Banno

My dad used to say that it was like inquiring about the pumps when the officers mess had water on the floor. The bloody ship is sinking.

What's a troll? — S

A supernatural being that usually lives in a cave. That is why we do not see too many of them around here. They hate enlightenment.

Nice to see that even at Easter you are ignoring the Easter eggs. :clap:

I welcome debate. Go ahead. — Nasir Shuja

Congratulations! You are person number 1,000,000,001 to say all of these things.

Please explain how any of the ideas you propose would be carried out. Saying it is one thing, doing it is something else.

Bet you are think that the devil is a troll. :naughty:

It's the whole idea of "cis." — tim wood

At least he made the effort to keep things clear.

And fair chance you think it's an unnecessary absurdity as I do. — tim wood

Whether absurdities are necessary or not I gave up trying to figure out a long time ago. In today's world it is sometimes even difficult to decide if somethings are absurd or not. I start doubting if one still has the ability to distinguish it from the norm. :gasp:

Philosophy doesn't require technology, and technology hasn't advanced philosophy, it's made it less useful. What would a "knowledge and technology catastrophe" look like? — whollyrolling

As you stated, it has already happened. Civilizations have been wiped out with all of there knowledge by barbarian hordes that destroy everything in their path including libraries that contain centuries of information. But the survivors sometimes have started again with the little that was left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_destroyed_libraries

No it hasn't. I'm talking about a catastrophe with all of our knowledge, and technology as we have today because it is from technology that we have advanced much in philosophical knowledge regarding the world. — Anaxagoras

We have advanced in scientific knowledge but I don't think philosophy has come too far in the last few thousand years. There are new ideas, and as always their respective opposing arguments. There are new perspectives, some of which have come about through technology, but technology and science are separate entities. Whilst they work hand in hand to confound the two is a mistake.
Philosophy and the history of philosophy are two different things, the first is not 100% dependent on the second.
Technology and the history of technology cannot be separated the first is based 100% on the second.

May I - should I - assume Pattern-chaser is being sardonic? — tim wood

Honest I think. :chin:

May a person know what part of speech "cis" is? — tim wood

Of or relating to people whose gender identity is the same as their birth sex; not transgender

Lots of good reading, a few things to laugh about. What more could anyone ask for in a virtual setting.
*****

Awesome, I shall PM you my bank details shortly. — Mr Phil O'Sophy

I am really a Gambian prince with lots of money I need to get out of the country. If you want to help me I will give you 25% of anything you help me with.

Please send me the bank info so that I can make the withdrawals deposits to your account.

"More about shadow and Other "

Did I miss episode 1?
I hope so.

Right but the inquiries that we all seek and share here will be lost. — Anaxagoras

We are doing almost the same today as they have done for the last few thousand years, anywhere language exists they will continue to discuss the same topics.

The contemplative "does God exist" or "I think therefore I am" will too, be lost in the rubble of human civilization. — Anaxagoras

Maybe it will change to "Why did god do this to us?". Or "I am therefore I must think to survive".

True, it would be a different type of wisdom but it would seem that the investigative inquiries and all of the historical elements that make up modern philosophical thought will be all lost. — Anaxagoras

There would be a great deal of loss of knowledge maybe, but humans will still have to eventually ponder the answers to the same questions. It might take a couple of hundred years or even a couple of thousand but philosophy will always be a part of humanity. Maybe they will come up with better, more intelligent answers than we have.

Any world changing event that leaves even small groups of humans will still not wipe out all of technology. Finding out how to make it work again will be the biggest problem they will face, and no I do not mean the internet or even electricity, I mean food production.

but will philosophy remain? — Anaxagoras

Yes, people will always love wisdom.

It might be a different type of wisdom though.

Introduce your friend to S. S knows all about dealing with obnoxious people.
Start walking around in one of those bright green or yellow t-shirts with his picture on the front and back and bright text that says "Property of Florida State Mental Health Detainment Center". That should make him think twice about hanging out with you.


Now I too have a problem, I need a certain amount of money to pay for some very important things. But I wont be able to pay it back for a couple of years.
Any offers.

Depends if harm is involved. — Anaxagoras

Sorry, I reread and edited something.

Surely sadists of the extreme kind tend to gravitate towards others of like mind. — Anaxagoras

I would not know much about that, but a lot of the murders you see on TV are pretty gruesome. If people were obliged to not do unto others what they would not like having done to them it might make them think before doing bad things.
An eye for an eye seems very appropriate in some cases.

Going back to my favorite subject aside from philosophy which is psychology, how do you reconcile your above reformatted quote with someone who has social anxiety disorder? — Anaxagoras

How do you relate the original with someone that has extreme sadistic/masochistic tendencies?

Surely it would perpetuate the behavior of one sick son of a bitch and hurt a lot of poor victims.

Edited because of missing masochist.....

fer ducks sake as a home owner I don't know of a scarier idea than Termites! :gasp: — ArguingWAristotleTiff

They are the reason I went all metal framework when I rebuilt my house. Rather have a pit of rust than those bloody things.

But the boy continued to be bullied. It took a terrific toll on his thinking capacity. He learned to be quicker with snide comments and half assed replies to things he did not like.
He became a philosophy forum troll.

Thoughts? — Anaxagoras

I always thought that this was badly written. It would make much more sense if it said,

"Don't do to others things that you don't want them to do to you".

Stated thus it would be applicable anywhere at any time.

Just a fleeting thought. — whollyrolling

Not everyone is like that, but there are too many. Some have recently read a bit of a book or read someone else's post on another site and them come here and blather on about it.
What I find even more annoying is when they quote those famous people as if their words were gospel.

Just let me know when you fall asleep. Oh, wait. :chin: — Purple Pond

Now you have something else to think about. :lol:

Invention is defined as something crafted by humans. — Blackhole94

No it is not, that is only part of the meaning. Bread was an invention, arrived at through experiments. Peeling bananas is an action, and it is doubtful there was an inventor.

Invent: Come up with (an idea, plan, explanation, theory, or principle) after a mental effort

Invention: A creation (a new device or process) resulting from study and experimentation

Basically, I’m looking for a proper definition of “invent” that excludes things like peeling a banana — Blackhole94

Where did you even get the idea that peeling a banana could be said to be inventing. :rofl:

Why don't you try telling us what the dictionary says and then tell us what is wrong with that definition.

The rest of you aren't Narcissus. — S

Praise be to Murphy for that small blessing. :pray:

I'm stuck here until I turn into a flower. — S

How long do you reckon it will be before that blessing happens? :cool:

Some of us are trying to lovingly gaze at their own reflection in a puddle. — S

Be truthful, because it is only you that does that sort of thing.

The rest of us have mirrors for that. :smirk:

Way to go girl.
You show em how its done.

When someone is jiving you, they are trying to make you look stupid.

I don't know who you are and whether you really are a closet sociopath — Wallows

Hell, he came out a long time ago.

Rule 12.5
Never listen to anything S says.
Rule 12.6
If S is in the discussion try to make as many spelling and grammar mistakes as possible without seeming to be doing it on purpose. (It drives him into Nazi mode)
Rule 12.7
If you are gonig to the trouble of writing rules for the forum, take the time to read them yourself and abide by them.

Is that how people get rich today? Shit man where did i see my pajamas?

As an experienced ex boyfriend/husband of several delightful females, mainly because of similar situations, I can highly recommend that you decide early on before there are complications.
Give him advanced warning that there will be a decision making meeting about the future and that he should bring along his thoughts, you do the same. Granting that things do change when people are together plans will have to be flexible, but goals should not be.
When me and the missus got together she was told that I did not want any more kids, I was told that she wanted to continue studying. But we bother agreed that we wanted to have our own house. Thirty something years later we have a 25 yr old daughter that finished university, the wife has her degrees, we have our own house and we do not owe anyone anything.
But we both still drink a few beers once in a while.

Setting and working towards goals might make him think before drink.

I'm not saying I literally like it, was just being facetious about it. — Anaxagoras

Yeah, I figured that one out. :wink:

I remember this from 7th grade, we had a sexy teacher that wanted to discuss the meaning of Easter.

She asked us why we thought we were given Easter eggs and the answers, looking back at them, were hilarious.
I remember saying that they used chocolate because before they used to have real eggs but they went rotten.
A friend said that it was because chocolate came from Africa. Even the teacher had to think about that one.
Another thought it was about eating dragon eggs from the dragons Saint George had killed so that there would not be any more dragons.
No one came up with the association to Jesus
Jeez, that brought back some memories.

I like how you ignored me when I answered your question directly. Apparently you're looking for confirmation bias. — Anaxagoras

You might like it but I don't. Seems she has her own agenda and the rest does not count.

Don't you think its a chain reaction? Little girls wouldn't think theyre smart or capable of maths or philosophy if they don't see enough women in the field. — EcceHomo

Would that not depend on the parents, the mothers especially. If the mother does not have enough balls to tell her daughters that they can do whatever they like, then maybe I was wrong about mothers being philosophers.
And the same would have to apply to men becoming dress makers, hair stylists and cooks.

How many female truck drivers do you know? Could that be because of lack of role models or is it just because most girls would never dream of driving a truck because it is not glamorous enough?

He was created in my image. — Hanover

:rofl: :rofl:

I'm pretty sure Baden and @Michael will be here because their mothers are already here and they probably want to see them. — Hanover

Waz der mamas doin der?

I'm like a cult leader, just more godlike. — Hanover

Have you been reading S's posted, you are beginning to sound like him.

Sir2u, motherhood is different... I even find it insulting of you to say that about women. — EcceHomo

Shucks lady, now you made me feel guilty. Well not really that much, maybe just a little, no actually not even a little.

How can you be so belittling to the wondrous state of motherhood? If being a mother is not philosophizing then I am not sure that philosophy even exists.
Can't believe that I am being called out for saying that mothers are philosophers, damn, next thing you know I will get shit for saying that cats are cuddly.

And every single person is a philosopher/thinker by your standards. — EcceHomo

Are we not all philosophers then? What sets apart a philosopher from a regular person?