Are our consciosnesses infinite or finite? — Gregory

Why not both? There is no reason to suspect that existence is not constitutionally paradoxical, and I sometimes entertain the idea that wherever the infinite and finite intersect, there you will find a human being immersed in the existence medium.

Then don't do it. — Athena

Exactly.

However, let us not deny that not everyone fits in the normal range and accept their differences are biological and not "sinful". — Athena

"Sinful" is an ethical judgment. In my opinion, issues of gender identity are an aesthetic matter - they are qualitatively incompatible with the ethical sphere, and should be kept separate from it.

But, to qualify that which is abnormal as normal is very problematic. The application of these terms factors only relativistically, so if the nonbinary labels itself normal, then the binary is necessarily rendered abnormal. The normal can hardly retain its essence and meaning independent of its dialectical relation to the abnormal.

If you call a man a dick does that mean being an asshole is a male quality to the extent that being an asshole means being a bastard to the extent being a bastard is like being a dick?
— Hanover

I know plenty of women who are dicks.

So... — creativesoul

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So you’re a felinist then. — praxis

Exactly. :grin:

:rofl:

In what context does this not imply a lack of courage, which means being scared and/or fearful? — creativesoul

Exactly. In no way or manner does it imply that these are womanly qualities. But, if that is where a person's mind goes when they hear those words, then the fault lies with their demented mentality.

It’s not very manly of you to have such fear [of] uncertainty
— praxis

When did I fear uncertainty? Please explain or consider your accusation invalidated. — Merkwurdichliebe

Invalidated.

pussies and cowards.
— Merkwurdichliebe

Kinda hypocritical, me thinks. — praxis

What do you mean? How are you misinterpreting these terms? From what context have you removed them?

Nice handle, but you spelled it wrong--merkwuerdigliebe, German for "strange love." Anyway, please see this thread on "The Reality of Time." — aletheist

Thanks. I thought it was merkwuerdigichliebe. Too many characters I think, can't remember.

Thanks for the link

It’s not very manly of you to have such fear [of] uncertainty — praxis

When did I fear uncertainty? Please explain or consider your accusation invalidated.

Also...

It sounds like you are implying that fear is a womanly quality. Kinda sexist dont'cha think?

Abnormalities of sex chromosomes — Abstract

The key word: "abnormalities". I wonder what percentage of people are born with abnormalities.

don't overthink everything. — Athena

The male-female dichotomy applies perfectly to the vastly overwhelming majority of people - what is termed "normal". To merge the abnormal into the category of the normal is a ridiculous confusion of concepts, and definitely would require an abundance of overthinking. To force reasonable people to agree to such an unusual paradigm shift would be as unjust as categorizing people with abnormal sex chromosomes as normal. Diversity is not necessarily a bad thing.

One rule, be nice — Athena

Agreed. Just because something is abnormal and not included within the category of the normal, does not mean it is inferior or should be treated as such.

Like social distancing and the rest, it’s not just about fear of infection but fear of spreading it to others. If I’m a carrier a mask should offer those around me some protection. I understand masks are more effective in containing the virus to the wearer. — praxis

"If" you're a carrier? It is a very dangerous thing, to base your life around "ifs". And when the state begins to base its policies around "ifs", then systemic tyranny is very close at hand.

↪Merkwurdichliebe So, all Asians are unfit according to you? — Benkei

What kind of rat bastard question is this...f'ing dirtbag trying to bait me into low quality posts...damn it worked. My apologies.

Also:

all Asians are unfit — Benkei

Very racist thing to say. Tsk tsk.

It seems that the WHO has been downplaying the protective utility of masks so as to emphasize the more important things, namely distancing and hand washing, etc.

If you feel the urge to wear a mask in public, then you are unfit to be in public, stay home. Let the unafraid humans live normal.

Face masks cannot stop healthy people getting Covid-19, says WHO
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/face-masks-cannot-stop-healthy-people-getting-covid-19-says-who

I love the Wayfarer philosophy! Preach on!!!!

but heck, I thought I'd react. — Coben

That's as good of a reason as any to respond, I think. Nevermind...

I thank you for your assistance.

Yes, I agree. No problems here. :smile:

I have no words. :smile:

Well, nice! I'm glad you do! — schopenhauer1

I'm glad you're glad about something.

My favorite flower

Coronaviris

And what's wrong with nothing? Nothing never hurt nothing. More to the point, why does there need to be something or somebody in the first place? What is your/their goal? — schopenhauer1

I love your philosophy!!!!

The ultimate system is our own condition for survival, comfort, and entertainment, followed closely by social institutions that, by feeding individuals needs, grows its own epiphenomenal needs to survive and maintain itself. — schopenhauer1

The ultimate system sounds like a great target for annihilation.

The past can't be infinite i.e. time has to have a beginning — TheMadFool

Let me start.

I agree, the past is finite, we call it history, I believe. Time has a beginning too, and it is not in history, it is "now".

Have you ever considered that the concept of time is a fabrication? I think its about time we come up with a new concept that pertains to what is experienced as a succession of moments. If only TPF could behave more as a thinktank, and less as a shitbowl.

system is sound, the system is good — schopenhauer1

Ah, "the system". What an ineffably awe inspiring edifice. The system does not fit into you, you fit into the system, REMEMBER THAT.

My ultimate goal with the philosophical endeavor is to devise tactics and stratagems that obliterate systems. I credit Socratic Ignorance for aiding me with this.

It is all repetitive again and again. It is all the fishbowl. Add to this negative experiences of pains and tragedies of all sorts. This just doesn't need to be continued for more people. Keep working. Keep enduring. Keep existing. That is the theme of the common man (informally optimistic) people. They don't question why. It is too sad for them to face reality so they keep running after the goals and are indignant if some see them for what they are.. consuming time, waiting. — schopenhauer1

:up: the unconscious march towards oblivion - very nicely put.

I agree, and the fact that you came up with something like REddy's critique of how language works means that you managed to get around a cultural bias. One can use other people, books, movies, great art often undercuts assumptions, science, meditation, relationships with people from other cultures, relationships with animals and so on to undermine biases and also, first, to make them visible. I am not saying we cannot change. — Coben

I don't think we have much disagreement here. I do recognize that the generation has an immense impact on the development of people - latent individuals who have not yet taken ahold of themselves as individuals. My prescription is philosophy.

As Schopenhauer stated, people like to have something to struggle for- I suspect the "interests deeply embedded" part. — schopenhauer1

And prior to that, Hegel pointed out that the species cannot evolve without struggle. He explains it in terms of the lord and bondsman, world historic figures, and the slaughterbench of history. But, even though he's an awesome philosopher, fuck Hegel.

It's an illusion, to just keep the merry-go-round. — schopenhauer1

Yes indeed, the merry-go-round for retards. And I, foolishy thought that the rabble who ate up the lies that incited the war in Iraq was bad - it pales in comparison.

:starstruck:

Studly brave dudes don’t practice social distancing or wear masks etc? — praxis

Yes, they don't do that. But not because social distancing or wearing masks is in itself a pussy or cowardly thing to do, but because buying into the hype that is compelling the social distancing and wearing of masks is pussy and cowardly.

Before all this pandemic hysteria popped off, I frequently practiced social distancing and wore masks on the reg.

How about no dichotomy? There are differences in how we think, but those differences are not drawn accurately along gender lines, and to reduce this diversity of perspective to a single dimensional value is to exclude, isolate and ignore the complexity of information about who we are and how we think, particularly in relation to our potential as men and women. — Possibility

The potential for being a man or woman is directly tied to the genitallia one is born with. If one puts the chop to their phallus, they merely become a eunuch. I think that is a clear and already existing basis for a trichotomy.

:rofl:

Because a lot of humans are inferior to a virus. — unenlightened

Yes true, but these sub-human swines that have become hysterical about this virus-hype are inferior to much much lower shit than a simple virus.

You'll be gone soon then. — Baden

I've already been gone for decades. . . but not because of of some overhyped boogey-virus, that is for pussies and cowards.

You two are talking teleology now. I don't think Darwin or Spenser could support that. — Monitor

But Stranglove certainly could. And probably Brigadier General Jack Ripper

Indeed, a natural phenomenon so perfect as this could only be characterized by an act of God, the human God... And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision making process which rules out human meddling, the doomsday machine is terrifying. It's simple to understand. And completely credible, and convincing

And this is why I see the ‘masculine/feminine’ dichotomy as ultimately unhelpful. — Possibility

What dichotomy would you propose?

SARS-CoV2 is simply Darwinism in action, weeding out the weak and inferior.