• The Origin of Humour
    my response is more based on a I-wish-people-weren't-like-that pipe dreamDawnstorm

    And if wishes were horses the peasants would ride. I don't believe "human nature" is infinitely malleable. We are not all that nice, a good share of the time,
  • The Origin of Humour
    Your "1-9 list" seems more like an origin story for drama than for humor. However, a good joke is also a 'little drama'.

    BTW, saber tooth tigers were extinct by 10,000 years ago. How did they go extinct? We wiped them out -- along with other megafauna. How did we manage to do that? Sharp objects.

    Meanwhile, back at the comedy club...

    I suspect laughter has more ancient roots than the lithic or neolithic periods, but you are spot on in identifying tension and relief as key elements. Our primate ancestors may have developed the vocalized relief breathing that developed into laughter. We also LEARN when to laugh and when to not laugh. For instance, if you see someone slip and fall in a muddy puddle, you probably won't laugh, being a sophisticated urbanite who understanding that laughing at other people's misfortunes is not just schadenfreude, it makes you look like a rube. God forbid! So, if you dislike the person in the muddy puddle, you'll laugh inwardly.

    When we hear a joke that promises to be racist and/or sexist (what's black and white and rolls around in the sand), there is first a tension then a release, anticipating the punch line confirming our racist/sexist attitudes. These days sophisticated urbanites are never racist and/or sexist, so no laughter.

    Maybe 25 years ago, The Prairie Home Companion Joke show featured a batch of "Your mother is so fat..." jokes. "Yo mama's so fat, when she fell down I didn't laugh, but the sidewalk cracked up." for example. The humor in the joke derives from the surprise exaggeration.

    A major component of humor is founded on our negative beliefs and attitudes. Fat people (yo fat mama, for instance) are often the subject of negative attitudes which Fat Liberation (there is such a thing) tries to combat. I am too fat, and I have no time for fat people's liberation. [If you look at crowd photos from the 1950s, 60s, and 70s--all kinds of people--you will see far fewer fat people.]

    So, are fat people legitimate targets of humor?

    Satire and travesty are two kinds of more extended humor. Tom Lehrer (Harvard Mathematician turned satirist in the 1960s) said, 'When Kissinger won the Nobel peace prize, satire died." The next step after satire is travesty. Travesty too becomes impossible, at times--the entire Trump administration, for instance,
  • Whenever You Rely On Somebody Else
    Whenever you rely on somebody else that person has authority over you. An advantage of being independent is that you're not giving people power of you, you're not giving people authority over you. This is something to realize if you do plan to rely on others and if you do plan to not be a recluse.HardWorker

    Oddly, you are interpreting "rely" as a vertical relationship where anyone you rely on has (up down) authority over you. True enough vertical reliance/authority relationships exist. However, most o the people rely on are in a horizontal relationship, where authority over doesn't play a role. We are all reliant on many people, every day--all the other people who, along with our esteemed selves, keep the world running. Everything from the sewer system on up to the banking system.

    The postal worker, bank teller, grocery store worker, and everybody else I rely on for bits and pieces of everyday life, have no authority over me, even though I rely on them.

    That said, I don't like other people having arbitrary or extensive control over me (though one puts up with it because total avoidance is not possible), and there is a large set of relationships (work, law enforcement, medicine, public health, etc.) where control and reliance are paired.
  • "Free love" and family in modern communities
    Free and open relationships are a fine thing if all the relevant parties agree that it is a fine thing; If they do not, then trouble will be the result.

    Family (parents and children) demands a level of commitment that rules out the kind of freedom that open relationships imply. Raising children is best done when there are two adults committed to the child's best possible outcomes, who share the tasks of child rearing, and who both contribute to the emotional, intellectual, and material well being of the child. [Can one person successfully raise a child? It isn't optimal, but it has been done. Still, a responsible adult should not opt for single parenthood, however.

    A choice has to be made here, either for the satisfactions of free and open relationships, OR for family. One can't have both at the same time.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Once you get there, you may filter what you see through the lens of preconceptions and misinformation.

    I find all this faintly disgusting.FreeEmotion

    No! I just won't do it. Ever. I REFUSE to eat chicken Kyiv.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    The Western European pronunciation of Kiev changed to Kyiv when a batch of media people showed up there and felt the ever-present media need to be cool, so they pronounced it the way they heard locals pronouncing it.

    WWL, a high-tone New Or-le-ans 100 year old radio station pronounced it with 4 syllables. I suspect that there is a class variant: down one step, New Or-lee-ins, down two steps, Naw Lins; down three steps, the southern unintelligible mumble--nobody knows what they are saying.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    rutilantOlivier5

    Congratulations! You are the first person to use "rutilant" on The Philosophy Forum. New to me, it means "glowing or glittering with red or golden light". Does Budapest have a proper red-light district?
  • Morality and Ethics of Men vs Women
    In the present that is?Agent Smith

    Maybe the National Organization of Women? Catholic orders for women (nuns)? Women's colleges (a few of those are still in business)?

    It doesn't matter. Matriarchal potentates are likely to be bitches.

    As a white gay man, I have found that some of my most annoying dysfunctional bosses have been white gay men. Female supervisors are as likely as male supervisors to be pains in the ass; my two best all time supervisors were a man and a woman. A large proportion of the population, male and female, white, black, asian, native, are natural-born assholes. Matriarchy schmatriarchy. Fuck 'em all!
  • Morality and Ethics of Men vs Women
    Maybe we could argue that if men and women are more similar than different, then aspirations would be more aligned -- such as having higher instances of matriarchy tribes and kingdoms.L'éléphant

    My view is that people are more alike than they are different, so men and women are more alike than different too.

    We could argue that there should be both matriarchies and patriarchies, but that does not seem to have happened. That said, there are matriarchal systems. Jewishness, for instance, is inherited through the mother (this is a religious convention, not genetics). There are small, agriculturalist groups that I have heard were matriarchal. Mostly, though, the idea of great matriarchies ruling over splendid societies (avoiding the problems of patriarchies) is just wishful thinking on the part of some feminists,
  • Morality and Ethics of Men vs Women
    I don't have sufficient knowledge to say, but academics who presumably do (men and women both) have asserted that matriarchies were few and far between, if they existed at all.

    If you want to know whether a person/group is good/bad, all you have to do is give them power and see what happens post that.Agent Smith

    If I had that much power to bestow on others to see whether they would turn into tyrants or not, I wouldn't do it.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    The figure you site may very well be true. But surely there are significant losses on the Ukrainian side, soldiers and civilians alike. A lot o material damage Is being inited by the Russians. Even if they flat out lose, leave with tails tucked between their legs, the damage Russia has inflicted on Ukraine's structures will have to be repaired. The damage done to Ukrainian society will, of course, be more difficult to repair.

    A total breakdown of the Ukrainian forces could still happen I guess, but it's not happening...Olivier5

    The Ukrainians have the 'home court advantage' -- no small thing. There is more adrenaline to fight hard for one's own land than to ruin someone else's.

    Having about 7% of the population displaced to other countries is also no small thing,
  • Ukraine Crisis
    What is our propagandaBaden

    Propaganda: zealous speech to persuade. "Their propaganda is all lies, our propaganda is full of truth."
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Also Madeleine Albright is dead and I would have preferred if she died violently and painfully but we can't always get what we want apparently.StreetlightX

    No, alas, and besides, you are too kind.
  • Christian abolitionism
    Transcendentalism came several decades after the heat of the abolitionist movementShwah

    When do you think the the transcendentalist movement began, and when do you think the abolitionist movement peaked? Seems to me they were both in business for a substantial period of time.
    split between the north and south on mostly lockean and rousseauian linesShwah

    Once it became a war it was deemed a part of secular state's history and the christian basis seems to be completely skipped over.Shwah

    In the United States (and not only here) religion and secular affairs are not necessarily as separate as one might think. Go back to mid 1800s and this is even more true.

    Major social movements (prohibition, abolitionism, women's suffrage, etc. pick up secular and religious strands and braid them together. The 'braiding' is one of the ways the movements gain maximum effectiveness. Same goes for Martin Luther King, Student Non Violent Coordinating Committee, and numerous other groups in the broad civil rights movement.

    Christianity isn't dead yet (though it's not the same potent force it was 100 years ago), so other resources are now pressed into service more often.

    Sunday closure... you talking about blue laws?

    Blue laws are peculiar. just for example, in a recent effort to change the liquor laws in Minneapolis, the small liquor stores were in favor of Sunday closing -- not because they were all in church all day, but because they stood to lose more than they would gain by Sunday opening. Large liquor stores could afford the lower returns on Sunday.

    In the small Minnesota town I grew up in 65 years ago) everything in town was closed except 1 small grocery store and a couple of gas stations. There was no competitive issue because other towns around followed the same rules. Now most things are open in this small town -- bars, what few stores there are, etc.
  • Christian abolitionism
    You are probably correct in saying that the northern abolitionists were primarily Christian. Certainly, not every American was Christian (or a theist of some other faith) but Christianity was a dominant social influence. Naturally, many Christians--North and South--honored Christianity in the breach rather than in observance.

    Transcendentalism: Transcendentalism became a coherent movement and a sacred organization with the founding of the Transcendental Club in Cambridge, Massachusetts, on September 12, 1836, by prominent New England intellectuals, including George Putnam (Unitarian minister), Ralph Waldo Emerson, and Frederic Henry Hedge.

    As I recollect, most transcendentalists were abolitionist, but took several different approaches.

    The Methodist Episcopal Church very actively supported the union cause, while the "Methodist Episcopal Church South" split away to follow the Confederacy out of the Union. 75 years after the Civil war (1939) the two parts reunited becoming "the Methodist Church". After the merger with the Evangelical United Brethren, they became "the United Methodist Church".

    The United Methodist Church will probably split again over the issue of gay clergy and gay marriage, This split is a multinational issue where the fault line is in the US and in Africa.
  • What type of figure of speech is "to see"
    "I see" said the blind carpenter as he picked up his hammer and saw. He lied, because he didn't see at all." An old idiom. My grandmother used to say this to me when I was a child (for no apparent reason). I'm 75.

    "To see" is the infinitive form of the verb"see" which derives from ancient roots in the Indo-European language. "Old English sēon, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch zien and German sehen, perhaps from an Indo-European root shared by Latin sequi ‘follow’.

    'Cat's pajamas' is a figure of speech.
  • Matrilineal Matriarchy.
    Fact: GARTHER, n. Men invented this elastic band to keep women from jumping out of their stockings and desolating the country.

    Ambrose Bierce understood why matriarchy ought always to be nipped in the bud.
  • Fake News in Politics
    Were they ethical or unethical? Were they moral, immoral or amoral? How do you understand the issue of ethical responsibility and moral responsibility associated with the spread of fake news?Thinker10

    Closer to unethical, closer to immoral. might be amoral. However, there are two sets of agents here: First, there are the content producers. Content is to the Internet what products are to the world economy--never enough good stuff. Second, there are the content consumers. One might well ask to what extent gorging on garbage in the gutters of the Internet is ethical, unethical, moral or immoral, or amoral.

    I expect people who have an undamaged brain to exercise some critical judgement about what they find in the gutter. (The Internet isn't all gutter, of course. Much of the content is excellent--present company included.)

    It might seem unfair to judge indiscriminate readers harshly. Maybe they can't help it that they are stupid. Is it their fault that it's hard to judge plain fact from obscure, exotic fiction? Strong objection to their slovenly intellectual behavior is not too harsh. How so?

    Even idiots or imbeciles are selective. Most east coast liberals, midwestern conservatives, and whacky west coasters did not believe the piles of juvenile fake news. The people who did believe it very much wished to read it, believe it, and repeat it. In their own fake world, anything might be true. When these morons step out of their fake world, say to deal with their family medical issues or the rotting roof on their house they usually proceed rationally (usually, not always).

    Believing bullshit, whether it is your own bullshit or somebody else's is always a moral hazard.
  • History of ideas: The Middle Ages - Continuity thesis or Conflict thesis?
    This being a philosophy forum and not a mechanics or agriculture forum, intellectual developments take center stage. However, the Middle Ages were not "Dark" Ages. Material culture developed during the Middle Ages, without which the high renaissance would have had a meagre existence.

    This isn't to claim that the people of the Middle Ages were prosperous literate yeomen. Far from it; there was plague, for instance; crop failures which led to starvation; there were numerous upheavals unsettling everybody. Still, there was material progress.

    Without a reasonably robust material foundation (for which intellectuals are generally not responsible) there would be no renaissance.
  • Does God have favorites?
    does that mean that you are still a wanker?Sir2u

    Isn't everybody?
  • Does just war exist?
    If one is an absolute pacifist, then no war can be just.

    The Roman Catholic Church's definition of a just war is:

    • the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
    • all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
    • there must be serious prospects of success;
    • the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated .

    Presumably Catholic teaching should conform to the teachings of Jesus. I don't recollect Jesus saying that there must be serious prospects of success.

    Would you kindly rank a few wars. Here are several wars; which of these were just/unjust?

    American Revolutionary War
    Mexican American War
    American Civil War
    WWI
    WWII
    Vietnam
    Iraq
    Afghanistan

    Of these, I would rank the American Civil War and WWII as more or less "just". The Revolutionary War was probably not necessary. The Mexican American War was an expansionary war. WWI was far too bloody and too vague to be counted as just. Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were unjust wars, according to the principles of Catholic Just War doctrine.

    The justness of the civil war to first preserve the union and secondly to end slavery is somewhat ambiguous. Maybe in the long run the Northern Union would have been better off without the Southern Confederacy--or maybe not. Slavery should not have occurred in the first place, but it did. How else to eliminate it?

    WWII seems unambiguously to have been just (from the allied perspective). The two main Axis states--Germany and Japan--were intent on something between continental and world dominance. Other nations, like Britain, had achieved world domination. Was the British Empire a) better than b) worse than c) about the same as the intended Axis Empire?

    WWII brought an end to the Japanese, German, and British empires. The US took its place as the dominant national power, a role we reluctantly shared with the USSR.

    So: war can be just; it usually isn't.
  • Does God have favorites?
    Of course God has preferences. God likes me more than he likes you, for instance. I can't help it. It's not my fault. I'm not in charge of God's preferences.

    God likes Jews more than Gentiles. I'm an exception, not being Jewish but still one of God's faves. Gentiles outnumber Jews 533 to 1, so are far more likely to do things that God, who's kind of fussy, doesn't like. God, who numbers the hairs on our heads, clearly uses a very robust statistical package to keep track of the billions of sins committed every 15 minutes.

    you haven't sinned very much, so rumor has it. I've sinned quite a bit--fact. But God still likes me better than you. God likes guys with enough balls to commit sins boldly more than namby pamby pussy-footers' pusillanimous half-assed sins.

    God doesn't like wishy-washy wankers. I've always avoided being wishy-washy. God likes that.

    Go and do likewise and God will like you too -- but still not as much as he likes me.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    If you think that's bad, you'll be shocked to learn the US government "stockpiles" dangerous pathogens all over the United States, including the last surviving smallpox viruses outside Russia. Not only that, but it partners with the Canadian government to do so in Canada. The UK, Germany, and France all do this to, as does Russia.Count Timothy von Icarus

    There is a big difference between "stockpiling" 1 small sample of an organism in a very cold freezer and "stockpiling" a few hundred pounds of the organism. There has been a debate in medical/scientific circles about whether the last surviving samples of the Variola virus (small pox) should be destroyed or saved--ever since the disease was eradicated in 1980.

    There are some samples of the 1918 influenza virus (which was much worse than Covid-19) which were recovered from a frozen body in Alaska. It might be the case that some thawing human body mighty contain the smallpox virus. In that event, it would be good to have a sample for comparison purposes.

    I'm not in favor of keeping a leading killer in the cooler. Eventually, mistakes will be made. The same goes for Poliomyelitis, a disease which (like smallpox) has no non-human animal reservoirs) has been all-but eradicated. Once it's gone, we would have little need for the actual virus.

    Well, the claim is that emerging new biological threats, such as tuberculosis that is extremely resistant to antibiotics, need to be collected and safely stores.Count Timothy von Icarus

    Tuberculosis (TB) is hardly an emerging disease. Over the centuries it has been one of the leading causes of death in the world, and still kills about a million people a year. True enough, multi-drug-resistant strains of TB have arisen, along with multi-drug-resistant strains of Gonorrhea and various other disease-causing bacteria.

    Anthrax is another disease that has appeared in long-frozen bodies, this time animal corpses. Anthrax Bacteria are very dangerous, though the disease can be treated in many cases.

    I don't know which disease would be the ideal candidate for a biological weapon. Besides, nukes are so good at killing people, why invent a biological weapon that once set loose would be impossible to put back into the box. And if we decided that germs were too dangerous, there are always effective gases and high explosives.
  • Propaganda
    Propaganda is just spin or lies designed to influence an audience - it might be for politics or for a religion. It need not involve nationalism. It's closely related to marketing. We can't stop people lying on behalf of a cause or product. Society is built on this fact. But perhaps we can try to make people more discerning.Tom Storm

    Correct.
  • The New "New World Order"
    Amazing how Putin managed to do all that without anybody noticing.

    I think an additional reason for the invasion is to wreck the economy of Ukraine, and control it so that it will not seek, and will not get, membership in either the EU or NATO. Whether that strategy will pay off for Putin remains to be seen. Putin would not want either organization to have an even larger presence on Russia's borders than they already have,
  • The New "New World Order"
    it is much more difficult to get one's place in the history books (and/or elevate your country to "super power status) without invading other countries that are unlikely able to stop your own armies.dclements

    My guess is that the size of their entry in Who's Who or a history book is probably not their main motivation, but ego is certainly a factor.

    The main thing is power and its attendant benefits -- cash, land, population, control, etc. How does this apply to Putin's case? He already has tons of cash, land, population, control, etc., so it isn't clear to me how wrecking Ukraine would benefit him and his various apparatchiks. Has he been taking steroids? Is he suffering from raging hormones? Is he mentally unstable? Is there some sort of obscure economic motive here? Ukraine is a major grain producer; so is Russia. Maybe Putin wants an even bigger share of food commodity markets? (I'm grasping at straws here)
  • Ukraine Crisis
    With satellite and drone coverage, there shouldn't be any doubt in anyone's mind about the whereabouts of the 40-mile convoy. The contents might be doubtful, but its location should not be.

    Good, solid, verifiable, reliable information can be hard to find in many situations, but in the middle of conflict, it's out of reach at times in several ways. There is deliberate misinformation (propaganda); error-based misinformation (failure to fact-check); perception-based misinformation (looked like a duck, sounded like VP); missing information (things get lost). Bonafide information (aka the truth) may be disbelieved or rejected out of hand.

    How many people in several categories have been killed so far? How many people have been injured, and how badly? There are always good reasons to inflate or deflate totals, and where an accurate count is desired all round, it may just be impossible to obtain.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    There are no unbiased news sources, as a general rule. So, be aware of the bias and then calculate how much to discount.

    I wish I could access different channelsManuel

    Don't we all! There are a few news channels available on the Internet beside Fox, BBC, and CNN. Deutsche Welle, for instance. Various radio stations in countries stream their service on the Internet -- so you could listen to National Public Radio (US) too.

    Ask Google for English (or other language) radio services in Europe or Mars... wherever.
  • Genuine Agnosticism and the possibility of Hell
    Here's a suggestion to consider:

    Separate the question of whether God exists from the question of whether there is an afterlife. God may or may not exist. If God does exist, it isn't necessary for Heaven and/or Hell to exist. If God doesn't exist, then there is probably no heaven and hell (as Christians suppose there is).

    God is not a Christian; neither is Jesus (he was a Jew). Christianity does not, and can not, be an accurate representation of who or what God is, Neither can any other religion. Religions contain a set of believe presented as the truth, but hey -- they are guessing. Atheists can't be certain that God does not exist--they are also guessing.

    Unless you believe that God is the model of man, and possesses the same screwy quirks that we do--we don't know what God is like (if God exists).

    A belief in God doesn't require the existence of heaven and hell (in my opinion), so again -- you can separate the two.

    Neither the fall of man (Adam and Eve) nor the redemption of man (Jesus) is necessary. These are theological concepts cooked up a very long time ago.
  • The Bible: A story to avoid
    The Bible presented among Christian believers, is a collection of stories written by supposed divine inspiration. The stories within the Bible show us scenes of gore, rape, slavery, and so many more violent acts, yet Christians sit here and preach that we must do what the Bible tells us word for word.Edward235

    Some of it is alleged to have 'divine inspiration'. Some of it is purported to be history. Some of it is liturgy (e.g. Psalms). the Bible is a collection composed by various authors over time, revised, edited, and reworked. Only 23% of the Bible (New Testament) concerns Jesus, the Apostles, Paul, and the early years of Christianity. 77% concerns the Jews and Israel.

    Yes, there are numerous stories recounting violence in the Bible. The promised land was secured by violence. "Kill them all." Deuteronomy 20:16-18. Was this a surprising innovation by God, or just standard operating procedure in armed conquest? More the latter, I would think.

    Jesus Christ, whom Christians consider the fulfillment of the God's Word, said: “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." That is what the Christian is directed to do. Period.

    The idea that the Bible is the inerrant word of God, to be taken literally from Genesis to Revelations is a recent innovation in the 2000 year history of the faith. This approach was developed as a reaction to the new insights developed by scholars in the 18th/19th century. Textual criticism and evolution both cast doubt on some biblical truths. In reaction, conservative believers hardened their view of the Bible from "authoritative" to the Bible is inerrant -- literally true, not questionable in any way, shape, manner, or form. In other words, Fundamentalism.

    Most 'mainline' Christians (Protestant, Orthodox, and Catholic alike) reject Fundamentalism.

    Some people have a low tolerance for ambiguity. Multiple meanings which can be revised according to interpretation bother these people a lot, whether it's the Bible or the Constitution, law, or ethics. They see things in black and white without any annoying grayscale.
  • The New "New World Order"
    Conflict is a constant in the world order, new or old. There are political / economic / ethnic / religious / cultural fault lines all over the globe that regularly result in conflict, casualties, disruption, famine, various forms of collapse, and so on. This has been the case for decades, if not centuries. Just for example, the civil war in Sri Lanka between the Tamils and Sinhalese between 1983 and 2009. Most people in the world were not greatly bothered about it, but for the people who lived there a bad time was had by all. JUST one example among many.

    The invasion of Ukraine by Russia bothers far more people than the Tamil Tigers vs. the Sinhalese ever could, A) This is taking place on NATO's steps, if not on its porch. B) Russia (and the former USSR) are/were big-name enemies to several big-name states. The people of Ukraine, unlike Iraqis or Afghans are democratic westerners. Thanks to Stalin (famine), Hitler (invasion and genocide), Chernobyl (reactors go boom!), and now Putin we have seen great suffering in Ukraine. We are more predisposed to think kindly of them than say... the people of Nagorno Karabakh.

    At least 10,000,000 people were in the Ukrainian diaspora. They are a visible ethnic group in many places. There are roughy 2.5 million people of Ukrainian descent in Canada and the United States. Their presence in many countries makes their suffering, courage, and cause-in-general more accessible than that of Sudan or Yemen.

    The remarkable unity displayed by EU and Nato member adds to the immediacy of their needs. If instead, only Cyprus, Portugal and Norway were helping the Ukrainians, we would probably care less about them.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    So it seems. As I said from the start, Western oil and defense companies are going to make a huge fortune from this:Apollodorus

    They will, true. But when do oil companies not make money? Oil is in demand everywhere, and the oil companies are located around the world wherever there is oil. War or no war, oil is generally a great business to be in. Suck it up and sell it.

    In a dangerous world (created partly through the good offices of arms companies), when do defense companies not make money? Big ships may not be the thing this year, but drones are. ICBMs may be in the doldrums, but Stinger missiles are hot. Fighter planes are very expensive, but one can make money on mines.

    Oil and Arms will be making money into the foreseeable future, regardless.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Here's a fuck up: Ukraine is a grain exporter to the Mediterranean basin, through its Black Sea ports, which Russia is busy closing off.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Ah, I wasn't thinking that trade relationships would or did trump security policy. I posted the chart just to give people like me a clearer idea of the Ukranian economy.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Here is a chart from VISUAL CAPITALIST showing what Ukraine imports or exports, and from/to whom.

    UkrainTrade-Infographic-9.jpg

    Ukraine’s Shift Away from Russian Trade Dependence
    Since its independence from the former USSR in 1991, Ukraine has steadily shifted towards Western trading partners, especially as conflicts with Russia escalated in the 2010s.

    After years of negotiations, Ukraine’s Association Agreement with the EU in 2014 facilitated free trade between EU nations and Ukraine, reducing the country’s dependence on trade with Russia.

    Ukraine is one of the most important economic centers of the former Soviet Union, and it had long been the breadbasket of the USSR thanks to its fertile chernozem soil and strong agricultural industry.

    Trade value between Russia and Ukraine peaked in 2011 at $49.2 billion, and since then has fallen by 85% to $7.2 billion in 2020. During this time, European nations like Poland and Germany overtook Russia in terms of trade value with Ukraine, and in 2021 trade with the EU totaled to more than $58 billion.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Good point. But entertainment is easier than instruction. I don't want to claim that in "the good old days" news media were all about instruction. What was the case, I think, is that instruction played a significantly larger role than it does now. That isn't to say there was no bias; just that news organizations were more serious about providing information, and not just amusement.

    Of course, if it doesn't affect the viewer, disaster information is as entertaining as a sitcom. It is a pleasure (on one level) to view a horrible event than has no person consequences. 9/11 is a classic example: Fascinating event! I knew absolutely no one who would be or was affected. The forest fires in California were not entertaining, because I knew a couple of people who were directly affected, and we could both see and smell the smoke 1500 miles away.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    the sheer desperation and moral bankruptcy of the media enterpriseFreeEmotion

    Always bear in mind that most of the media are for profit enterprises. They are not staffed by philosophers (like that would help) or public intellectuals. Reporters, commentators, hosts, producers, etc. possess varying levels of depth and insightfulness. If a big war had broken out between Myanmar and Thailand instead of between Ukraine and Russia, the same batch of people (more or less) would have descended on Bangkok and started to report back.

    William Shirer, a CBS radio reporter, did such a great job reporting on WWII in Europe because he had been there for several years before it started. Eleanor Beardsley, NPR reporter, has reported from Paris for years. She was suddenly reporting from Kyiv / Kiev. I like Ms. Beardsley, but how much background can a reporter collect during the flight from Paris to Kyiv? Lyse Doucet, a BBC reporter (thick Irish accent, Canadian, apparently) bounces all over the world, disaster to disaster. Same show, different corpses.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Why don't the Ukrainians flee to Russia?.EugeneW

    A small percentage are fleeing to Russia, mostly from the Donbas region immediately adjacent to Russia. Those living in Kviv or Lviv, for example, A) don't want to go to Russia and B) would have to travel eastward toward and through a battle zone. Travel westward toward Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, or Moldova makes more sense at this point.