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Existence is relative, not absolute.@Merkwurdichliebe You could've just said actual existence is conceived existence, and just add a 'not' before each term for the opposite.
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What is the difference between God and Canada?Alright. But how would you constitute a country without its countrymen, its countrymen being foremost - inhabitants of the country?
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What is the difference between God and Canada?
Isn't Canada owned by its inhabitants? :chin:I wouldn't say "Canada comprises" real estate, because real estate is owned. — Metaphysician Undercover -
Existence is relative, not absolute.I don't understand, please explain. — Merkwurdichliebe
:sparkle:It doesn't include the term "actually". — Merkwurdichliebe -
Existence is relative, not absolute.You're referencing it. So it does, somewhere; maybe not here.
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)
You're not entirely made of strawberry blancmange and chocolate drops, so you're not their product. :clap:It is impossible to refute that I’m the product of a God made entirely of strawberry blancmange and chocolate drops. — I like sushi -
Do you ever think that there is no real way to escape the cage we have created for ourselves?Rorschach was a great villain. :smile:
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)
Then how does he dream?the world and self are the same for the solipsist. — Wallows -
What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)That immediate part that you mention is all that matters to the solipsist, partly because he does not know how to move beyond that part with any confidence. — MerkwurdichliebeIt's as easy as looking in to a mirror. — Shamshir
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)
I would never discount the immediate part of my own partly-immediate cohesion; partly because I don't know how.But don't discount the importance of your own immediacy just because the solipsist takes it overboard. — Merkwurdichliebe -
What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)The issue I'm proposing is that the solipsist should be incapable of immediacy and following from that - experience. As a whole, the solipsist is incapable.
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)Humor this.
If
AndThe certainty of immediacy is independent of the configuration of the cards, and even of the recognition of cards. — Merkwurdichliebethe configuration and recognition of cards is independent of its immediate certainty — Shamshir
Then the solipsist, exists independently of immediacy, and is not necessarily immediate.
By that, here's a wild notion - the moment you are immediate, you are not solipsistic.
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)
But that would mean the configuration and recognition of cards is independent of its immediate certainty; is it?The certainty of immediacy is independent of the configuration of the cards, and even of the recognition of cards. — Merkwurdichliebe
I'd actually stop at 'As soon as the solipsist projects'.As soon as the solipsist projects beyond his immediacy, he is no longer solipsist. — Merkwurdichliebe
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)
Aren't they both certain and nuanced?The first mode of doubting is a nuanced certainty -
dependent on the epistemic status of my doubting. The second mode is a certain certainty - it is existentially bound to my immediacy, and independent of epistemic concerns. — Merkwurdichliebe
Both are immediate and both are dependent.
Whichever you remove, you would be removing the whole thing; no?
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)Well, regardless if you're a solipsist or not, when doubting - you are certain of your doubt. So at all times of doubt, you implore and explore certainty and its possibilities.
As you said...
If that follows - it follows that regardless if you're a solipsist or not, your doubt is just nuanced certainty.But then he is only doubting, which again he cannot doubt. — Merkwurdichliebe -
What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)Fair enough. But going with that, doubt is impossible, regardless if you're a solipsist or not.
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What is the difference between God and Canada?God is the circle of the outer perimeter, Canada is the circle of the inner perimeter and the wedge between both perimeters is the observer.
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)
If he can doubt, he can doubt his doubt.But can he doubt his doubting? — Merkwurdichliebe
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How does one answer Schopenhauer’s critique of the cosmological argument ?
Are those things outside?Don't people actually know things outside finite existence ?
Like the concept of infinity, infinite numbers that cannot be even or odd ? — Jonathan McCormack
What if they're inside, would that change anything?
Divide an orange infinitely, and tell me your conclusion.
What is transcendent about it?So couldn't the question of the correspondence between the perception and the perceived be answered by ascribing that correspondence to a supereminent unity in which the poles of experience, the phenomena and perception, participate in ?
The unity itself cannot be grasped according to the discrete properties of finite existence, and so is transcendent perception.... — Jonathan McCormack
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)That's not true. A solipsist can always doubt his free will. :gasp:
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What is the Best Refutation of Solipsism? (If Any)It's as easy as looking in to a mirror.
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Confusion on religionsAren't you the curious one? You know what they say about curiosity, though, don't you? It killed the intrepid adventurer who really should just be doing exactly what I say at all times.
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Confusion on religionsThe details aren't important. At least not right now. Eternity is on a rather tight deadline. We'll get back to that later.
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On being "strong"
Try using that explosive energy on coconuts, you'll be benefiting in no time.To the point. I basically get easily offended. If someone critizices my way of doing simple things I just explode inside. — Alan
Anyone can lift the boulder up, throwing it away is the hard part; mainly because you think you have to throw it far away, but you can just drop it besides you and walk on by.I started to believe strength was what people who have been through shit develop because they know what hard situations actually are and so they no longer care about trivialities such as being criticized or insulted; someone close to them died, maybe in a horrible way; they suffered a hard infancy, could be accompanied with lack of attention or even violence; some of them even witnessed closely a natural disaster etc. — Alan
A friend pushed me under an incoming jeep once and then the driver instead of going back, went forward. My friend is still my friend, and I wish that driver all the best. It's all good.
Fresh water keeps going, swamp water keeps still.
If you focus on pain, pain you will gain - just keep going, come snow or rain.This whole no pain no gain mindset for non body building situations has to be put to rest, in my opinion. What do you guys think? — Alan
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Confusion on religionsWell, well! What a turn of events this is! It's new, and I like new, even if it's bad. And this is bad, isn't it? My, my.
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My "nihilism"No, I'm just sneakily hinting that the social is inevitable
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My "nihilism"
Out of curiosity, would you call mathematics biological - as they're clearly social?I'm trying to transcend social cues. The social is clearly derivative from the biological. — yupamiralda -
Art highlights the elitism of opinion
With space highlighting the elitism of speed.And transport highlights the elitism of space. — Henri -
Confusion on religionsI run the Fo'c's'le, a boarding house for sailors. Sorry, I reserve my beds for seamen.
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Confusion on religionsOptimism! How adorable! I love it! Even at the end, you make me laugh. I'm lying. That wasn't funny at all.
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Is birth fair or is life criminal?Technically speaking, all things are in a way mental constructs.
So there's no issue on that end.
The issue would have to lie with the difference between the perspective of the two versus the absolutes they represent.
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Art highlights the elitism of opinion
Rails highlight the elitism of transport.I think this conversation has finally gone off the rails — Brett -
Is birth fair or is life criminal?
It's neither good nor bad.When you're born it's either good or bad. — Schzophr
Would you consider a few drawn lines good or bad?
There's no waste - all the puzzle pieces fit.The energy of our universe is very powerful and intricate, even with eyesight there is a type of waste energy. — Schzophr
You eat, you produce compost, you fertilise the land and grow crops - to repeat.
The same chain of events applies to eyesight.
Elaborate.Knowing an angle of your face is/may be known by energy twice over/max because energy has that encircling, fulfilling potential. — Schzophr -
How does one answer Schopenhauer’s critique of the cosmological argument ?1) Causality is irrelevant for determining God.
2) Whether you know God within or without, is irrelevant - because they're all God's manifestations. That's the idea behind the Hindu Avatar.
3) If you can determine the phenomenon, you can determine the noumenon in contrast. Like how drawing a square on paper, consequently draws the frame outside of the square.
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Confusion on religionsBetter to live in a
desertsandbox
than with a quarrelsome and naggingwifeFrank.
Proverbs 21:19 :cool:
Shamshir
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