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  • Ukraine Crisis
    Peace parties:

    • the landlord says they want peace but without the land-grabbery
    • the invaders (and destroyers) say they want peace but with the land-grabbery

    And:

    • the UN said no land-grabbery (explicitly)
    • the attackers said it goes beyond that land (well, among a few other things)
    • the attacks/destruction continue to create hate + distrust among the defenders
    • (Kim Jong-un, are you taking notes?)

    How can some productive progress be made?
    A wretched situation; heck, for that matter, southeastern Ukraine could be administered independently by the UN for the time being if peace was what everyone wanted.
  • Welcome Robot Overlords
    ↪Wayfarer
    , I was more thinking of the logical problem with the self-reference, or potential problem.

    You're crafting a model ("map") of yourself (the "territory"). The model would then contain itself (if understood), and so on. Structurally, the model might start looking fractal-alike or something. Well, infinitudes here and there anyway. Don't know if that's a problem; is it? Either way, there seems to be an implied introspection horizon.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Arguably, Iran is technically in a proxy war against Ukraine, yet saying so is kind of misleading (incidentally, analogous to some comments hereabouts). — Feb 13, 2023

    Putin's Russia, Khamenei's Iran, potentially China ...

    Moscow is not alone: Much has changed since invasion of Ukraine
    — Jonathan Spyer · The Jerusalem Post · Jan 24, 2023

    Will China start a "proxy war" against Ukraine?

    On another note, I'm seeing some wariness out there that Kim Jong-un is taking notes.
    "Whatever happens in Ukraine ain't staying in Ukraine."
  • Ukraine Crisis
    FYI, foreign/independent journalists reporting on the ground:

    What the Russians left behind when they fled Kherson
    — CBC News: The National · Feb 23, 2023 · 9m:58s

    The original report ↑ has been locked down on youtube, a shorter version can be found here:

    What the Russians left behind when they fled Kherson
    — CBC News · Feb 23, 2023 · 8m:55s

    How Russia's invasion turned Ukrainian residents into resistance members
    — Richard Engel, Gabe Joselow, Michael Fiorentino · NBC News · Feb 24, 2023

    I wouldn't mind similar reports with the invaders.

    (continuing a line of evidence ...)

    Dozens detained by Russian police on Ukraine war anniversary - rights centre
    — Caleb Davis, Mark Trevelyan · Reuters · Feb 24, 2023
  • James Webb Telescope
    Cleaning pays:

    JWST is better than anyone expected — here’s why
    — Ethan Siegel · Big Think · Jan 23, 2023
  • Ukraine Crisis
    ↪EricH
    , it's not so much refusal, as it is that no one is blaming the Dutch! (imdb)

    Anyway, didn't the thread already establish that "Everyone is bad"? If we're to spread blame, then maybe figure out where to place the blame first and foremost, or by rank, weight, score, whatever?
    I have some impression of where the victims would primarily place blame. And the (other) main actor ...

    It’s not Ukraine that is fighting Russia, but rather it is a collective West. All decorum is set aside, and the goal is to inflict strategic defeat on my country. The US thinks the planet is their turf. — Vasily Nebenzya (Feb 22, 2023)
    The West aspires to strategically defeat Russia, dismember and destroy it [...] the West has been and is turning a blind eye to the revival of neo-Nazism and the glorification of Nazi criminals in Ukraine — Vasily Nebenzya (Feb 23, 2023)

    ... (i.e. an old repeat of the others on Putin's team, and incidentally also some in this thread in part).

    As an aside, anti-US / pro-Putin type sentiments aren't as rare as some suggest. At least, in my adventures, they've been common enough.

    Leaked document shows how Russia plans to take over Belarus
    — Michael Weiss, Holger Roonemaa · Yahoo · Feb 20, 2023
    Will sich der Kreml Belarus einverleiben? (en)
    — Florian Flade, Lea Frey, Manuel Bewarder · ARD/tagesschau · Feb 21, 2023
    Leaked Russian document shows how Putin plans to annex ally Belarus by 2030
    — Sinéad Baker · Business Insider · Feb 21, 2023

    Make of it what you will, it does fit a pattern (posted in some detail in the thread prior). I thought Belarus was already more or less under Putin, though...?

    Russia’s Medvedev floats idea of pushing back Poland’s borders
    — Al Jazeera · Feb 24, 2023

    :D Medvedev is known to make ridiculous statements, though a Russian official, chairman of their Security Council.
  • External world: skepticism, non-skeptical realism, or idealism? Poll
    ↪schopenhauer1
    , observation, as the case may (or may not) be:
    The forum has a (noticeably) different distribution than the world of academic philosophers in general.
    If so, then how come?
    Either way, I'm not going to pretend to speak on @Banno's behalf.
  • External world: skepticism, non-skeptical realism, or idealism? Poll
    Again, this to me, is committing the bandwagon fallacy, and now you are showing more evidence of (or reiterating it rather), not countering that. — schopenhauer1

    I think @Banno could make the observation without arguing/committing either way (but probably won't :grin:). Doesn't the observation stand on its own?

    Two different directions:

    the leap from the mental process to a somatic innervation — hysterical conversion — which can never be fully comprehensible to us — Sigmund Freud (Notes Upon a Case of Obsessional Neurosis)
    the puzzling leap from the mental to the physical — Sigmund Freud (Introduction to Psychoanalysis)

    412. The feeling of an unbridgeable gulf between consciousness and brain-process: how does it come about that this does not come into the consideration of our ordinary life? This idea of a difference in kind is accompanied by slight giddiness — which occurs when we are performing a piece of logical slight-of-hand. (The same giddiness attacks us when we think of certain theorems in set theory.) When does this feeling occur in the present case? It is when I, for example, turn my attention in a particular way on to my own consciousness, and, astonished, say to myself: THIS is supposed to be produced by a process in the brain! — as it were clutching my forehead. — Ludwig Wittgenstein (Philosophical Investigations, Part I)

    The two were contemporaries for half a century, apparently with fairly different approaches.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Me personally,
    ↪Tzeentch
    ...? I'm rather inconsequential, irrelevant, insignificant.

    My general sense is that you don't seem to take the Russian perception Putin's claims of NATO as a security threat very seriously. — Tzeentch

    I couldn't say exactly, but seriously enough I suppose, though not just (supposed) NATO-phobia, as per ↑ the thread. Back to this comment, this, this, ... (repeats). :/
    In the same round, would Putin risk Russia over southeast Ukraine (perhaps by unleashing the nukes)...? Don't know, but I'd be surprised if Jane and Joe Russian would. Unfortunately, we can't free (their access) and ask them.

    EDIT:

    The UN isn't quite as inconsequential irrelevant insignificant as me. I don't know if anyone thinks they're a bunch of airheads, but here's a report from their assembly today (Feb 22, 2023) on the topic. The message is clear enough.

    What's your (anyone's) take?
  • Ukraine Crisis
    YouTube versus Seymour Hersh aside, this bit ...

    Let me pass on his tale and then make the connection with Hersh’s exposé of the Biden regime’s Nord Stream op and the other cases I have mentioned. — Patrick Lawrence (Feb 20, 2023)

    ... isn't quite where Lawrence says.

    No conclusive evidence Russia is behind Nord Stream attack
    — Shane Harris, John Hudson, Missy Ryan, Michael Birnbaum, Souad Mekhennet, Meg Kelly · The Washington Post · Dec 21, 2022

    The Nord Stream incident is less clear, which kind of makes it more interesting. (I'm still not quite convinced the saboteur(s) must be a state actor, for that matter.) Puzzle... — Feb 21, 2023

    Anyway, censorship being bad might be another reason the Ukrainians aren't into being ruled by the GKremlin?
  • Ukraine Crisis
    ↪Tzeentch
    , well, what they say (others on Putin's team as well) is what they want everyone to hear, including Jane and Joe Russian. They've talked about doom and destruction, a dire existential threat to Russia(ns). All the while doing a fair bit of that to Ukraine (Ukrainians) I might add. Their verbiage is distinctly political, often enough sufficiently vague/suggestive, with scattered fear-mongering, calls for hard nationalism, ... They'd be poor authoritarians otherwise. :)
    (Incidentally, Brzezinski and whoever else confirm that Putin wants to assimilate Ukraine out of power aspirations.)

    Anyway, wherewhen have we seen such moves before?

    In May 2022, Bondarev wrote:

    Minister Lavrov is a good illustration of the degradation of this system. In 18 years, he went from a professional and educated intellectual, whom many colleagues held in such high esteem, to a person who constantly broadcasts conflicting statements and threatens the world (that is, Russia too) with nuclear weapons!
    Today, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not about diplomacy. It is all about warmongering, lies and hatred.
    — Boris Bondarev's resignation letter

    Despite all their shortcomings, maybe Navalny and others ought to be allowed voices and participation, talk with Jane and Joe Russian, and in reasonable safety? Hopefully, no one suggests gagging Chomsky (or worse) similarly. :)
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Meyn opines:

    What Putin’s speech reveals about his plans in Ukraine
    — Colin Meyn · The Hill · Feb 21, 2023

    • Putin (paraphrased): The West is out to destroy Russia. It's a matter of life and death.
    • Most others (including peace-mongers and diplomats): Huh?
    • Zelenskyy (paraphrased): Hey hey I'm over here *finger*snap*, could you tell your soldiers to go home and leave us be already? Look over there *pointing*, we have rebuilding to do.

    A couple or so continents are being accused of conspiring to destroy Russia.
    Have to wonder how much of this was already in Putin's plan-decision-graph.

    EDIT:

    They intend to transform a local conflict into a phase of global confrontation. This is exactly how we understand it all and we will react accordingly, because in this case we are talking about the existence of our country. — Putin (Feb 21, 2023)

    Notice how the rhetoric could be employed to justify whatever (including if Ukraine was to hand over their south + east). After all, it's about a couple or so continents conspiring to destroy Russia. And "accordingly"...
  • Ukraine Crisis
    I don't see how. Pretty much all of Russia's actions so far which cannot be denied (the war itself, the sham referenda, the annexing, the bombing, the inhumanity...) are indicators of a ruthless country invading a neighbour. No one is disputing that simple fact. The dispute is over the question of why they invaded, and (more importantly) how best to bring the invasion to an end. — Isaac

    Nah, I was commenting on Russia "influencing" Ukraine. Earlier covertly, insurgence'ly, all that, then when that started looking less and less promising, invasion. "Influence." Ruthless ✓, Machiavellian ✓, ... Now (theatrical) war-rallying at home (The Telegraph, Newsweek). (Hmm Gotta' wonder what Putin would do with all that in case the diplomats came through with something...)
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Also a considerable chunk of your 'evidence' comes directly from the US government or Ukrainian government sources. — Isaac

    Yet not all. Trails of (independent) evidence paint a picture and also suggests modus operandi, fingerprints, tell-tale tracks. The shamming, organized re-enculturation efforts, subversion (mentioned in the thread prior) are also parts thereof. And Girkin turned into an Achilles heel of deniability.

    You can't seriously expect me to take those sources seriously in the circumstances. — Isaac

    (Hmm poisoning the wells (plural)?)
    Grabbing Crimea and eastern "insurgence" (followed by "annexation") are fairly hands-on type pieces of evidence, but a bit harder to hide/deny. :)
    Feb 2014, Apr 2014, Nov 2014, Sep 2017, Jun 2018, Feb 2019, Sep 2022, Nov 2022

    The Nord Stream incident is less clear, which kind of makes it more interesting. (I'm still not quite convinced the saboteur(s) must be a state actor, for that matter.) Puzzle...
  • Chinese Balloon and Assorted Incidents
    No need to go all zealous. :)

    "Scientists want you to know that most balloons come in peace. They're used for experiments to look at everything from cosmic rays to the ozone layer."

    Researchers watch and worry as balloons are blasted from the sky
    — Geoff Brumfiel · NPR · Feb 21, 2023
    balloon researchers are careful to follow airspace and other government regulations, our research balloons carry no surveillance capability, and safety is always a primary concern — Joan Alexander
    This other side of the story, the useful, practical ballooning that helps students, helps technology and our better understanding of the Universe, really needs to get out there — Gregory Guzik

    The spying/security aspect isn't going away, though.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Apparently, some Russian military folk lament Biden visiting that "Russian territory" before Putin. :D

    Almost a year after the beginning of the NWO, we were waiting in the Russian city of Kyiv for the president of the Russian Federation, and not the United States. — Notes of midshipman Ptichkin (Feb 20, 2023)

    Hmm Could Putin stride about Moscow, Biden stride about Washington? Maybe, maybe not...
    With the media shutdown/control in Russia, I wonder how much general access/information those military folk have.

    On another note...

    Russia targets Netherlands' North Sea infrastructure, says Dutch intelligence agency
    — Anthony Deutsch, Bart Meijer, Hugh Lawson, Susan Fenton · Reuters · Feb 20, 2023

    Not really all that surprising.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    I guess everyone has different aspirations...

    Chechnya's Kadyrov: one day I plan my own mercenary group
    — Caleb Davis, Guy Faulconbridge · Reuters · Feb 19, 2023

    When my service to the state is completed, I seriously plan to compete with our dear brother Yevgeny Prigozhin and create a private military company. I think it will all work out. — Ramzan Kadyrov

    As far as I can tell, there isn't a significant number of Chechens shooting in Ukraine, though they have been and are present. Kadyrov was among them around 2014. Most are doing the GKremlin's bidding.

    • Chechen involvement in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine (Wikipedia)
    • Kadyrovites » Ukraine (Wikipedia)
  • Chinese Balloon and Assorted Incidents
    What about drones?
    Some legislation has been put in place, though I don't recall the exact details here (I've had a small drone with camera from before they started getting legal attention).
    For example, you're not allowed to head out to the airport and start flying your drone around. :)
    I imagine balloons have been subject to legislation longer.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Russia blocks access to The Bell news website
    — Caleb Davis, Guy Faulconbridge · Reuters · Feb 19, 2023

    Rights groups say Russia is trying to control the entire media landscape by blocking independent news outlets, stopping their reporting on the war from reaching ordinary Russians.

    Some degree of media control is expected when waging war I s'pose; theirs went overboard some time ago though. :/ "Foreign agents" has become a go-to allegation and judicial process has gone down the drain.
  • Welcome Robot Overlords
    The Chinese room sure has received a bit of attention.

    • Chinese Room Argument (IEP)
    • The Chinese Room Argument (SEP)
    • Chinese room (Wikipedia)
    • Quantum Mechanics, the Chinese Room Experiment and the Limits of Understanding (Scientific American)
    • Searle and the Chinese Room Argument (Illinois State University)


    Horgan draws some parallels with other philosophicalities, solipsism, though I'm not quite sure how well his argument fares. Regardless, there seems to be some relations among Levine's gap / Chalmers' conundrum, McGinn's mysterianism, all that. There's a possible problem with human mind attempting to understand (map) human mind (territory, self), a self-reference (and indexical) thing. Anyway, I'm guessing that mind as we know it requires a fair bit of (autonomous, ongoing, self-initiated) interaction with the environment.

    Suppose one of the above had found a distinct resolution, then what would it mean for others?
  • Chinese Balloon and Assorted Incidents
    @Tzeentch, seems like such balloons do violate airspace regulations/laws.
    At least some of them are Chinese according to Chinese authorities themselves.
    Maybe they just went "Hey let's try this, see how it goes"?
    In the scheme of things such balloons are fairly cheap, yet might spot something of interest.
    Barring large incidents, what is there to lose?

    dgcz922q79v3ite3.jpg


    Extraterrestrials Admit Responsibility for Unidentified Objects but Claim They Were Only Monitoring Weather
    — Andy Borowitz · The New Yorker · Feb 13, 2023

    :D
  • Ukraine Crisis
    A report from the frontlines:

    ‘Better than nothing’: Outgunned Ukrainian pilots take the fight to Russia in ancient Soviet-era helicopters
    — Sam Kiley, Olha Konovalova, Sarah Dean, William Bonnett · CNN · Feb 17, 2023

    Doesn't seem to be a whole of such reports with the invaders.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Had Russia taken over Kyiv in Feb 2022 and taken the government into custody (or worse), then Ukraine would more or less have fallen under Kremlin rule, at least in the eyes of a few. There would be resistance, more scattered, less organized, that would end up being labeled "terrorists" — terrorists (and Nazis) are fair game after all, right? Would have been a victory for Putin, and, say, like "an intervention stopping a Nazi regime".
    Kyiv didn't go like Crimea, though. Since then, their invasion has relied on numbers/resources (large hinterland that sort of includes Belarus), no particular threat to Russia (anywhere, no one's going to invade Russia, Putin + team can shuffle things about worryfree, or so they think :wink:), "no part of Ukraine is safe", others' restraints (e.g. no foreign battalions kicking them out, no NFZ), all that. So, they can just keep pouring on people and bombs, perhaps other openings will present themselves.
    Maybe they hoped for Kyiv and expected shooting as usual in the east?

    Zelensky asks for proof of invasion of Ukraine allegedly planned for February 16
    — TASS · Feb 12, 2022
    Washington’s warnings that Russia is about to invade frustrate Ukrainians
    — Matt Bradley, Veronika Melkozerova · NBC News · Feb 15, 2022
    Hacked News Channel and Deepfake of Zelenskyy Surrendering Is Causing Chaos Online
    — Samantha Cole · VICE · Mar 16, 2022
    EU 'did not believe' US warnings of Russian war
    — John Silk · Deutsche Welle · Oct 11, 2022
  • Chinese Balloon and Assorted Incidents
    They're just out looking for balloons, it's trendy at the moment. :)

    US intercepts Russian bombers off Alaska for 2 straight days
    — Luis Martinez, Mark Osborne · ABC News · Feb 16, 2023
    Russian warplanes fly near Alaskan airspace second time in two days
    — Ellen Mitchell · The Hill · Feb 16, 2023

    This Russian activity near the North American ADIZ [Air Defense Identification Zone] occurs regularly and is not seen as a threat, nor is the activity seen as provocative. — NORAD
  • Ukraine Crisis
    The problem of Russian expansion (land grabbing) has come up before, starting a good while back. At first for Moldova, Poland, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, the Baltics, with Moldova being the more vulnerable. Presently for Ukraine. Putin bemoans NATO (well, "the West" I suppose, at least that's what they want others to hear), others bemoan Putin's Russia bulging towards them. Some of this is expressed here as well:

    Opinion: Moldova isn’t on the front page, but it could be in Putin’s crosshairs
    — Cristian Gherasim · CNN · Feb 15, 2023

    Anyway, we have others that don't want to become under Putin's thumb, under Kremlin control. The fear is real enough.
  • Chinese Balloon and Assorted Incidents
    The balloonery apparently isn't just over North America.

    Balloon sighted over Latin America is from China, Beijing says
    — Al Jazeera · Feb 6, 2023

    No, not aliens. :D

    Are they spy balloons or aliens? What we know about the flying objects spotted in US, Canada and even China
    — Roshneesh Kmaneck · Firstpost · Feb 13, 2023
    Why We're Suddenly Spotting Spy Balloons
    — Sophie Bushwick · Scientific American · Feb 14, 2023

    There’s probably at least 100 [large balloons] in the air, on any given day. It’s not very stealthy. The payload underneath it was about the size of a small plane, so it … looks like a plane on the radar. Previously, they had things set up to filter out what they would describe as clutter on the radar. These newer ones are the result of a heightened sense of caution. … [They] modified the algorithm that they use to determine whether something is of interest or not, and so things that have been there all along are now popping up for the first time. Because the wind speed varies at different altitudes, they can use that to basically change direction and steer to a certain amount. And you could, in theory, put some rudders and propellers on a balloon. With propellers, then I think you could overcome some of the wind and you could move from side to side. … You can imagine designing a trajectory; you’re mostly going from west to east, but you’re able to go north-south to some extent if you have some kind of propulsion system. The recent UAP reports that came out in January … they listed a whole bunch of new UAPs, and the vast majority of the ones that they identified were balloons, simply because it’s such a common thing to be in the air. In a military context, you never want to rule anything out—which is why they haven’t ruled out aliens. Out of an abundance of caution, you really want to consider all the possibilities. — Mick West

    Other-balloon-tracking.jpg?quality=85&w=400
    ↑ Source (Feb 6, 2023)

    A bit puzzling.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Meanwhile, the dreadful attrition rate of men fed into the meat grinder continues [...] — Wayfarer

    Russia may have lost an entire elite brigade near a Donetsk coal-mining town
    — Veronika Melkozerova · POLITICO · Feb 12, 2023
    'This isn't Russian roulette, it's like the suicide of lemmings': Putin's marine brigade of 5,000 men is all but destroyed in one of the most brutal battles since the start of the war
    — Ian Birrell · Daily Mail · Feb 13, 2023
    ‘Like turkeys at a shooting range’: Mauling of Russian forces in Donetsk hotspot may signal problems to come
    — Tim Lister · CNN · Feb 14, 2023

    The frontlines go this way then that. (↑ gross and disgusting)

    Analysis: Kremlin moves to rein in Russian mercenary boss Prigozhin
    — Andrew Osborn, Alex Richardson · Reuters · Feb 14, 2023

    Well, Prigozhin is a nasty piece of work, maybe even for the Kremlin.

    US-backed report says Russia has held at least 6,000 Ukrainian children for 're-education'
    — Reuters via The Jerusalem Post · Feb 14, 2023

    (in continuation of prior reports)

    EU seeks to use frozen Russian funds to rebuild Ukraine
    — Terje Solsvik, Essi Lehto, Niklas Pollard, Sandra Maler · Reuters · Feb 14, 2023

    There's an idea.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    On another note, would it be accurate to say that Iran is in a proxy war with Ukraine?
    (Sep 17, Oct 13, Nov 1, Nov 5, Nov 5, Nov 6, Nov 10, Nov 18, Nov 24, Nov 25, Nov 27, Nov 28, Dec 7, Dec 12, Jan 2, Jan 9, Jan 26)
    — Jan 29, 2023

    Iran smuggled drones into Russia using boats and state airline, sources reveal
    — Martin Chulov, Dan Sabbagh, Nechirvan Mando · The Guardian · Feb 12, 2023
    Iran used boats, state airline to smuggle drones to Russia
    — The Jerusalem Post · Feb 13, 2023

    Arguably, Iran is technically in a proxy war against Ukraine, yet saying so is kind of misleading (incidentally, analogous to some comments hereabouts). Iran has seen a bit of commotion lately. Could surely use some "friends". Sort of odd, but perhaps not surprising.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    I think that "opinion" is quite well shown from the actions and the reasons given to those actions by the leaders of Russia. Putin's article Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“ shows perfectly what he thought of the Ukrainian state. Among the multitude of other obvious examples. — ssu

    Yep, and evidence/arguments have been posted throughout the thread already.
  • Coronavirus
    Besides which you're simply attempting your usual switch. The issue here [...] — Isaac

    ... isn't up to you to decide on others' behalf. :grin:

    Ordinarily, people, including children, would mask up in public social settings, not at home for example (bubble), while learning more.

    People were screamed at, called 'murderers' [...] — Isaac

    ... and there was "child abuse" screamery (which it isn't, but evokes other things), and some made a fine buck on masks (the :mask:-industrial complex), and elsewhere masking up turned into a mini-trend because then they'd worry less about pimples lipstick whatever. I guess you could schedule a study for when those kids are post-puberty to figure out how many turned into monsters or something. Did past :mask:'ing produce damaged years/generations?

    And you wonder how they get to walk all over you... — Isaac
    I cannot make sense of your blind obsequience. — Isaac

    Hmm So that's what you made out of @EricH's comments.

    ↪Agent Smith
    , something Prasad got right was that the Ο-mutants became wicked at spreading, found fertile ground, but, fortunately, became less dangerous. :phew: ← need icon

    On another note...
  • Coronavirus
    Something odd about the US... — Feb 7, 2023

    Median price of hepatitis C drug Harvoni (Statista)

    Cost of Insulin by Country (World Population Review); insulin was developed by a Canadian and a Scotsman a century ago, not new or anything, some will die in a month or something without insulin

    Xarelto Prices (PharmacyChecker)

    Per capita prescribed medicine spending (OECD)

    Prices in the United States are higher than those in all comparison countries — ASPE

    What's the deal with those prices anyway? I guess they affect health care. Apparently, there are other things where the US stands out moneywise.
  • Coronavirus
    There are various factors at play.
    You don't want to wait a couple of years for studies to come out when there's an outbreak. Besides, masking up isn't exactly detrimental.
    Often enough you'd see someone only covering their mouth (including on broadcasts/TV). Don't know what studies tried to account for masking up wrong, but people ought to know better.

    Fortunately, it hasn't been as dangerous as the 2003 outbreak, which had a 10% fatality rate, and we're fortunate that such a deadly mutation hasn't emerged in this round. — Oct 19, 2022

    By the way, there are influentials that some contrarians/fools/whoever will listen to.

    How a Kennedy built an anti-vaccine juggernaut amid COVID-19
    — Michelle R Smith · AP News · Dec 15, 2021
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Despite USA's larger military budget, Toti opines:

    Who is the sleeping giant now?
    — William Toti · The Hill · Feb 7, 2023

    Something odd about the US... Medicine and some kinds of services are more expensive in the US than most others. Also came up in the 2016 election run. An effect of capitalism or something? Plain supply and demand?
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Belarus leader says he has been asked to seal a non-aggression pact with Ukraine
    — Andrew Osborn, Mark Trevelyan · Reuters · Jan 24, 2023

    They are asking us not to go to war with Ukraine in any circumstances, not to move our troops there. They are proposing we conclude a non-aggression pact. — Lukashenko
    For the past ten months, [Belarus/Lukashenko] has permitted Russia to base troops in Belarus and launch airstrikes from the country against Ukrainian targets. — Rudnik
    No, I cannot comment on this right now. I do not have any information. — Peskov
    Russia is trying in every possible way to draw Belarus directly into the war. Ukraine warns Minsk against any possible further aggressive plans, we confirm the absence of any aggressive intentions towards Belarus on our part. — Nikolenko

    Seems unlikely, and might not mean a whole lot anyway. Any takers?
  • Greater Good Theodicy, Toy Worlds, Invincible Arguments
    Can we compare a (toy) heaven and a (toy) universe?
    We know our world; I guess heaven would fall back on definitions/uses.
    Religions often enough have notions of heaven, said to be the best, the place to be.
  • Greater Good Theodicy, Toy Worlds, Invincible Arguments
    There's something weird or off about the greater good theodicy.
    If it's for the greater good, then what business have doctors/researchers/psychiatrists/etc trying to fix it?
    Shouldn't it be left for that (presumably planned, trusted) greater good?
    Mentioned good folks have managed to cure/relieve some maladies over time, others not so much.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Another of those sorts of reports:

    Ukraine: Russia sending civilians through landmine fields to find safe routes
    — Jerusalem Post, Reuters · Feb 1, 2023

    Would Belarus then be complicit in crimes / human rights violations?
    Don't know if Belarus would allow independent investigators, but probably not monitors.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Putin says military must stop Ukrainian shelling of Russian regions
    — Mark Trevelyan, Alexandra Hudson · Reuters · Feb 1, 2023

    Many people found themselves in a difficult situation, lost their homes, were forced to move to relatives or to temporary places of residence, faced interruptions in the supply of water, heat, and electricity. — Putin

    (well then ... no, not The Onion)


    ↪dclements
    , yeah, CBS reported it as well.

    An off-the-books mercenary army is gaining power in Putin’s Russia
    — Zachary B Wolf · CNN · Jan 30, 2023
    Inside the battle for Bakhmut, where Ukraine's tech-savvy troops say Russia treats men like meat
    — Debora Patta, Steve Berriman, Tucker Reals · CBS News · Jan 31, 2023
    — Jan 31, 2023

    By "tech-savvy" they're referring to monitoring, recording, drones, ...
    Apparently a good lot of the "zombies" are questionable hires by the mercenary groups.
    Aren't there some human rights principles/edicts being blatantly violated here...?
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Let's see what comments if any this can generate:

    — Mearsheimer (paraphrased): Everyone should have known that Putin would have Russia attack Ukraine

    — Others: Ukraine's defense and political dealings with the West ain't up to Putin to decide, and, besides, Ukrainian NATO membership wouldn't doom Russia to destruction (Feb24, Mar18, Apr26, May7, Jun10, Oct27), let alone a Russia without Crimea

    — Cynic: Bah, it's all just rhetoric, entitlement, propaganda, manipulation by everyone

    Grabbing Crimea (2014) apparently was a surprise. Invading (2022) wasn't entirely a surprise (2015, 2015, 2022).
  • Ukraine Crisis
    ↪SophistiCat


    Putin's Russia has been regressing ↘

    :/

    Russia’s Longest Standing Human Rights Organization Dissolved by State Courts
    — Tony Spitz · Veuer · Jan 26, 2023 (1m:14s)
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