• Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    We got nothing for it. Zero return on investment. Why do you think it is a good accomplishment?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    She claims that Kerry’s activities “angered Trump” and his pressure was motivated by “partisan concerns”, and not, say, concerns over national security, shadow diplomacy, treason, undermining allies, and so on.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    These are principles you hold to no one else while everyone else literally copies and pastes another's work.
  • We are the only animal with reasons


    I like having the ability to predict possible consequences and the power to generate reasons to explain my actions. I like choosing certain courses of action. There is no better combination for a good and ethical life. They’re all boon and no burden. Why are they a burden for you? I ask because there has to be a reason for it but it’s not made explicit.
  • Global warming discussion - All opinions welcome


    However, to the people who disagree that global warming is a threat, that climate change isn't real, I would like to have a polite and interesting discussion about why you feel the way you do.

    It always reminds me of the poem “Fire and Ice” by Robert Frost. I’d much rather the climate stave off the ice age and warming is one way to accomplish that. In other words, since climate changes, it’s changing in a suitable direction. I hold with those who favor fire.

    What I fear most is the lengths people will go to in order alter what they believe is a terrifying future. Crazy experiments, vast systems of coercion and control, and many lives sacrificed on the alter of safety and planning—all of these are a greater threat, to me.
  • The moral instinct


    Wouldn’t it follow that if being just is learned behavior, being unjust is also learned?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    It tells of pressure to pursue Mr. Kerry, who had angered Mr. Trump by attempting to preserve the nuclear deal he had negotiated with Iran.

    This is a good little reminder, despite the breathtaking stupidity of the review. Kerry had a rogue “back-channel” with Iran during the Trump years. The Iranian Foreign Minister admitted that during their meeting he was surprised when Kerry started talking about Israeli military operations against Iranian assets in Syria. This was happening during when the US was moving to withdraw from the shoddy JCPA. Iran has zero diplomatic relations with the US and are adversaries. Kerry did it anyways, and got away with it. Why wouldn’t Berman look into it?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Not to mention Trump’s medical and tax records and passports. God knows what they found in Melania closet and Barron’s room.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    It’s a nothingburger. Zilch. Nada. All this crap about “national security risk” has fallen from the table at which millions of anti-Trump devotees were gorging themselves. Now it’s about a different country’s national security. It could be documents about Chad for all you know. One way or another, you’re following selective leaks from a political DOJ and falling for it.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    You also said this, linking to a report alleging the Trump administration was sharing nuclear tech with Saudi Arabia.

    Jesus. Imagine they don't find them. What if Trump sold them to Saudi Arabia.

    "But I declassified them before I left" would hardly justify it.

    Either way, I wasn’t talking about you.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    We’re now going to pretend that we haven’t been speaking about US nuclear documents this whole time?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    The sands have shifted once again. First it was nuclear documents, now it’s a document describing a foreign government’s military defenses. Rest assured, another nothingburger sending TDS sufferers into a mental spiral.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    More so an undying hatred for the establishment uniparty and the State, but tomatoes tomatoes.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    When have I ever said anything about nuclear codes?

    I re-read your post. You didn’t say anything about nuclear codes, but rather nuclear documents. My mistake.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    You do know that nuclear codes change between administration. Might you at least clarify that they our outdated and useless nuclear codes?
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    All of it, it turns out, was misinformation and propaganda. As a defender of truth and combatant to misinformation, ought you not set the record straight? Or do we just move on to the next one and pretend it never happened, like Russian collusion?
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    I love me some polarization, to be honest.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    You believed and tried to sell the idea Trump was selling nuclear codes to Saudi Arabia, perhaps without knowing they change the nuclear codes from administration to administration. Was this combatting propaganda or spreading misinformation in your eyes?
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    Well deserved.

    Do you still believe Trump was giving away the nuclear codes to Saudi Arabia? Or was that propaganda/misinformation?
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    You claimed he sympathized with neo-Nazis and accepted the endorsement of the KKK.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/index.html



    That much is clear. I don't respond to you to because I think I'll finally get through to you. I know you're a lost cause. I respond to you to for the sake of others, combatting your rhetoric/misinformation/propaganda.

    You employ propaganda in order to combat propaganda. Fair enough.

    The White House asking the National Archives in May to give access to the FBI to the boxes returned In January is evidence that Biden knew and signed off on the search warrant issued in August? You really are reaching.

    Yes it is evidence. And you’re working overtime to cover for them.

    Timothy Thibault, the FBI agent alleged to have interfered with an investigation into Hunter Biden, was assigned by the Washington Field Office as “point man” to manage whistleblower Tony Bobulinski, the first son’s former business partner, before the 2020 election — but he suppressed his damning revelations, sources say.

    Bobulinski spent over five hours secretly being interviewed by the FBI on Oct. 23, 2020, about his inside knowledge of then-presidential candidate Joe Biden’s involvement in his son’s business deals with China.

    The previous day he had revealed in a press conference that Joe Biden was the “Big Guy” due to get a 10% cut of a lucrative joint venture with Chinese energy firm CEFC, according to an email found on Hunter’s abandoned laptop.

    Bobulinski gave the FBI the contents of three cellphones containing encrypted messages between Hunter and his business partners, along with emails and financial documents detailing the Biden family’s corrupt influence peddling operation in foreign countries during Joe’s vice presidency.

    But his evidence appears to have fallen into the same black hole at the FBI as Hunter’s laptop, never to be seen again.

    FBI agent Timothy Thibault hid intel from whistleblower on Hunter and the ‘Big Guy’ Joe Biden
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    Yes he is treating his opponents like domestic terrorists. No anti-Trump analysis of Biden’s’ words is going to convince me otherwise.

    There is some evidence Biden knew and even signed off on it.

    https://nypost.com/2022/08/23/biden-called-in-fbi-to-look-at-classified-trump-documents/

    I’m referring to the Facebook stuff and the whistleblower reports.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    It’s called being led by propaganda. You yourself admitted you believe Trump sympathized with neo-Nazis.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    And you’d be wrong. But no one’s going to stop you going through life like that. In fact, it’s encouraged.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    You cite show trial.



    The only way to destroy American democracy is to say that you are protecting it from a clear and obvious threat. And then really believe in what you are saying (to be clear, obvious and true).


    Biden’s whole theme was unification and decency but he has done the exact opposite. Now he is ramping up his rhetoric, treating his opponents like domestic terrorists. He has already sent his goons to rifle through Trump’s documents, perhaps worried what sort of info Trump had on him. Since we now know the FBI was working to suppress info that would reflect badly on Biden, I’m going to conclude that this deep state shit has been occurring even before he became president, and he is only its most recent hydra head.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)
    Timothy Thibault, the FBI agent alleged to have interfered with an investigation into Hunter Biden, was assigned by the Washington Field Office as “point man” to manage whistleblower Tony Bobulinski, the first son’s former business partner, before the 2020 election — but he suppressed his damning revelations, sources say.

    Bobulinski spent over five hours secretly being interviewed by the FBI on Oct. 23, 2020, about his inside knowledge of then-presidential candidate Joe Biden’s involvement in his son’s business deals with China.

    The previous day he had revealed in a press conference that Joe Biden was the “Big Guy” due to get a 10% cut of a lucrative joint venture with Chinese energy firm CEFC, according to an email found on Hunter’s abandoned laptop.

    Bobulinski gave the FBI the contents of three cellphones containing encrypted messages between Hunter and his business partners, along with emails and financial documents detailing the Biden family’s corrupt influence peddling operation in foreign countries during Joe’s vice presidency.

    But his evidence appears to have fallen into the same black hole at the FBI as Hunter’s laptop, never to be seen again.

    FBI agent Timothy Thibault hid intel from whistleblower on Hunter and the ‘Big Guy’ Joe Biden
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

    Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    Yes, we’ve already gone over the chants, but thanks.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    Thank you. Not one shred of evidence that anyone wanted to hang Mike Pence.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    That’s not a clarification of my position. That’s an obfuscation of my position. If you want to know my position you can ask for it.

    When reading Trump’s speech he uses the word “fight” numerous times, and in no instance is the word used literally like you pretend he did. For instance when he says “Jim Jordan and some of these guys, they're out there fighting”, or “the House guys are fighting”, or when speaking of Rudy “He fights; he fights”, or “And if they don't fight, we have to primary the hell out of the ones that don't fight”, it takes a man governed by propaganda or stupidity to believe Trump is speaking of acts of violence here. In fact, Trump assumed “everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”.

    The ones who gave anyone the idea that something besides a rally was going to occur was the press, who promised everyone that Trump would declare martial law, invoke the insurrection act, and use the military to change the results of the election. (https://www.justsecurity.org/73986/invoking-martial-law-to-reverse-the-2020-election-could-be-criminal-sedition/) these were utter lies and conspiracy theories of the highest q-anon order, as we now know, and the press believed them.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)
    Absent the evidence there’s nowhere else to go but to cower in the comfort of a circle jerk with another true believer.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    Again, I do not know what the motivations were, and nowhere did I claim it was or was not intended to be used. But the reporter who found the noose said the gallows was too small and weak to be used, anyways, so there is that. But if you have evidence it was going to be used it may be a good idea to provide it.
  • Democracy as personal ethic - John Dewey


    A good read.

    Intolerance, abuse, calling of names because of differences of opinion about religion or politics or business, as well as because of differences of race, color, wealth or degree of culture are treason to the democratic way of life. For everything which bars freedom and fullness of communication sets up barriers that divide human beings into sets and cliques, into antagonistic sects and factions, and thereby undermines the democratic way of life. Merely legal guarantees of the civil liberties of free belief, free expression, free assembly are of little avail if in daily life freedom of communication, the give and take of ideas, facts, experiences, is choked by mutual suspicion, by abuse, by fear and hatred. These things destroy the essential condition of the democratic way of living even more effectually than open coercion which- as the example of totalitarian states proves-is effective only when it succeeds in breeding hate, suspicion, intolerance in the minds of individual human beings.

    The victims of bigotry and coercion should remember insights such as these, especially when terms such as “democracy” leak from the other side of a hater’s mouth.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    Oh, right, only you know what happens in your alternative universe.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    If they somehow got their hands on Pence do you think he would have been safe? Judging by the signs, it would seem reasonable to think he would not have been safe.

    If in some alternate universe they got to Pence they would not have hung him. They would have embraced and sung revolution songs together as they tore down American democracy.
  • Joe Biden (+General Biden/Harris Administration)


    I know what threat means, I just do not pretend to know someone’s motivations. Do you really believe there was a lynch mob there conspiring to hang the Vice President?