The Philosophy Forum

  • Forum
  • Members
  • HELP

  • Writing styles
    ↪Swanty
    Cite some representative samples of my "unclear" "jargon laden style and weird grammatically abbreviated sentences". Thanks.
  • Post-mortem poll: for Republican or against Democrat?
    Apparently US voters dislike the Biden economy and the prospect of a female president more than they dislike a 'corrupt, incompetent, con artist, racist, rapist, misogynist, nativist-xenophobe-isolationist, hyper-protectionist, insurrectionist, autocrat & convicted fraudster'. :brow:
  • With philosophy, poetry and politics on my mind...
    ↪Amity
    Thx :flower:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Any chance of success went out the window in 2021, when the 3.5 trillion dollar Bernie-backed reconciliation bill was killed by Manchin and Sinema. That would have been very good for the country. Instead we got crumbs and some baby steps in climate policy. Not good enough, not impactful enough. — Mikie
    :up: :up:
  • With philosophy, poetry and politics on my mind...
    A question for 180 Proof and any others - how much would you agree that there was too much emphasis and reliance on women votes re abortion? — Amity
    I don't agree. Imo, Trump won because too many Democratic voters preferred not to vote rather than vote for a woman president just like in 2016. Biden won 15 million more votes in 2020 than Clinton won in 2016 and 13 million more votes than Harris won this year; however, Trump received about 1 million less than he did in 2020, so the election turnout drop-off was on the Dems side. As far as I can tell, too many Americans are still not "ready" for a woman president. :brow:
  • TPF Quote Cabinet
    The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. — Bertrand Russell

    As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron. — H.L. Mencken

    In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. — Napoleon Bonaparte

    What a terrible era in which idiots govern the blind. — William Shakespeare


    addendum to
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/945412
  • A Mind Without the Perceptible
    ↪Brenner T
    If the g/G of "classical theism" is eternal, then its "ideas" are also eternal, and therefore whatever exists – "whatever it perceives to be" – is also eternal from g/G's pov (even though from a not-g/G (e.g. human) pov whatever exists seems temporal (which is a "stubbornly persistent illusion" according to A. Einstein)). So, imo, refuting Berkeley does not itself refute "classical theism" (vide Spinoza / Epicurus).

    Btw, I'm a p-naturalist (i.e. anti-supernaturalist ... anti-antirealist) with a speculative affinity for pandeism.
  • Withdrawal is the answer to most axiological problems concerning humans
    ↪180 Proof
    Leave me alone. Fuck off
    — schopenhauer1
    Reply intelligently to this post

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/944417

    and I (probably) will.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Christoffer
    :up:

    The rest of us need to look at this result with humility. American voters are not always wise, but they are generally sensible, and they have something to teach us. My initial thought is that I have to re-examine my own priors. I’m a moderate. I like it when Democratic candidates run to the center. But I have to confess that Harris did that pretty effectively and it didn’t work. Maybe the Democrats have to embrace a Bernie Sanders-style disruption — something that will make people like me feel uncomfortable.

    — David Brooks

    Gee thanks David. Glad you’re realizing this NOW.

    Him, Bret Stephens, and the rest of the anti-Bernie crowd can just shut up now.
    — Mikie
    :up:

    Imho populism + sexism also among Democratic voters = Trump defeats Harris: in 2016 Hillary received 66m votes and 2020 Joe received 81m votes (W) and 2024 Kamala received 68m74m votes. Apparently, regardless of candidate quality, we 21st century Americans prefer a lawless president / "dictator" (tyranny) to a neoliberal woman president (quasi-liberty). :confused:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Fuck me.
    — 180 Proof

    Seems gratuitous since you've just been fucked by several million of your countrymen
    — Benkei
    :sweat:
    .
  • TPF Quote Cabinet
    The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history. — GWF Hegel
    History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce. — Karl Marx
    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. — George Santayana

    Trump Reelected.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    DJT is vox populi! — 180 Proof
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    6November24

    Yesterday more Americans chose rather than rejected tyranny. To wit:

    make Apartheid great again
    make Antisemitism great again
    make Anti-women great again
    make Anti-immigrants great again
    make Anti-labor great again
    make Anti-intellect great again
    make Anti-democracy great again
    make Above-the-Law great again
    make Assholery great again ...

    prevails – 'DJT is vox populi!' – the culmination of the last half-century of bipartian Neoliberal de-industrialization – 'It's the structurally exploitative-systematically discriminatory Plutonomy, stupid!' – aided and abetted by corporatist Reality TV, WWE & Social Media which has groomed (radicalized) the precariat for reactionary populism???

    Fuck me.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/944859

    @180 Proof? — Mikie
    I was wrong. :zip:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Wishful thinking? TBD. — 180 Proof
    Damn. I was very wrong. :zip:
  • Withdrawal is the answer to most axiological problems concerning humans
    ↪schopenhauer1
    :rofl:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    I really wonder on what people base their predictions ... — Tobias
    :wink: Follow me down these rabbit holes to Wonderland, my friend ..

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/944276
  • Withdrawal is the answer to most axiological problems concerning humans
    ↪schopenhauer1
    Well, since you've ignored my post in your other recent thread ...

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/944417

    ... it's no big loss. Oh, btw, try some philosophizing yourself for a change. :smirk:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Relativist
    :up:
  • Withdrawal is the answer to most axiological problems concerning humans
    ↪schopenhauer1
    :yawn:
    [M]any of us, most of us, don't see the world and relationships this way. This is your personal, idiosyncratic reaction to your own personal idiosyncratic problems and your solution is your personal, idiosyncratic solution. Doctoring it up with Schopenhauer doesn't change that. — T Clark
    :up: :up:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    5Roevember24 :victory: :mask:

    YOU WILL GO TO PRISON, DIAPER DON – your sentencing in NYC is scheduled for 26 November. More state indictments pending. Federal trials will resume next Spring. Appeals of both civil judgments in NY will fail also by Spring 2025. No doubt your knuckle-dragging, gun-happy cult of MAGA morons (wannabe "brown shirts") will fuck around and find out (I suspect "Dark Brandon" – fortified by SCOTUS' wingnut "presidential immunity" – will not show much mercy if it comes to that). Karma. :fire:

    Wishful thinking? TBD.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Baden
    :sweat:

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/942675
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    A republic, if you can keep it. — Benjamin Franklin, 17 September 1787
    In America on the ballot today there is a simple, yet fateful question: FOR TYRANNY (Trump-Vance) OR AGAINST TYRANNY (Harris-Walz)?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny

    Roevember is here! :fire: :party: :hearts:
  • Deep Songs

    "In The Heat Of The Night" (2:30)
    Soundtrack, 1967
    music Quincy Jones, d. 2024
    lyrics A. Bergman & M. Bergman
    singer Ray Charles
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    [ ... ] I have no problem understanding why people follow Trump, regardless of his behavior. People are more stupid than they think and it demands effort to always be vigil of your own biases. These people have no such abilities and thus are open to a total annihilation of their inner agency, making them into zealots and drones. — Christoffer
    :100:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Addendum to.
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/944276

    WHETHER THE MAGA CIRCUS LIKES IT OR NOT, WE'RE GOING TO REJECT THE CLOWN. :mask:

    >>> Roevember 1
  • Existential Self-Awareness
    Does having the capacity for existential self-awareness imply anything further than this fact? — schopenhauer1
    Only that it is possible either to be or not to be 'existentially self-aware' ...

    That is to say, does a species of animal(s) that has the ability to conceptually "know" that it exists, entail anything further, in any axiological way?
    I suppose that such a species would value immortality-projects (i.e. fetishes / technologies) higher than any other – probably as the basis of all other – values.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    .
    ↪Benkei
    :up: :up:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Paine
    :up:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    3Roevember24

    ↪Baden
    :smirk:

    ↪Manuel
    Consider these 'more grounded' (re: historical-social context) guesstimates:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/11/why-this-highly-accurate-market-based-election-indicator-seems-to-be-predicting-a-kamala-harris-win/

    https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/america-votes/historian-allan-lichtman-standing-by-harris-victory-prediction-despite-polling

    https://fortune.com/2024/11/03/presidential-poll-iowa-selzer-donald-trump-warning-kamala-harris-surge-midwest-blue-wall/

    addenda to
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/934008

    nota bene:
    Consider this recent article on how easily "betting markets" are manipulated ...
    https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/dont-trust-the-political-prediction-markets
    — 180 Proof

    Roevember is here! :victory: :smile:

    @Mikie @Wayfarer @Benkei @Shawn @Count Timothy von Icarus
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Addendum to
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/937315 (re: zionfascism)

    My father always said, 'The Zionists love Israel and hate Jews.' — Esther Farmer, A Land With a People: Palestinians and Jews Confront Zionism
    :mask:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    There would only be a freakout if your prediction of Harris winning the popular vote by nine points or so and a blue tsunami carrying her to a landslide [blowout] victory is correct. That's not going to happen though. — Baden
    :smirk:

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/934008 :victory:

    >>> Roevember 2
  • Why Religion Exists
    ↪I like sushi
    The OP concerns "why religion exists", not what is the origin, development and/or consequences of "altered states of consciousness" (e.g. religious experiences). My excerpts are links (via usename) to prior thread discussions in order to prompt / tease with sketches other (e.g. cognitive) ways of thinking about the topic.
  • Why Religion Exists
    Why Religion Exists ... — ContextThinker
    I think (your) "Evolutionary Coping Mechanism" overstates the case with an underdeveloped "theory". Consider the following old threads:

    (2021) The why and origins of Religion ...
    Magical thinking. 'Making shit up' is far easier than struggling to find out what is and is not the case. The brains of h. sapiens are adapted for survival and not truths; therefore [ ... ] — 180 Proof
    (2022) Roots of religion ...
    We're natural beings. Paths of least resistance constitute the regularities – processes – of nature. Making shit up (versus figuring shit out) is a path of least cognitive resistance [ ... ] — 180 Proof
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    The cognitive dissonance is going to be so extreme when Trump wins. Even for the government itself. — Shawn
    Well I can't wait for the cognitive dissonance freakout here on this thread when Harris-Walz wins (possibly declared as soon as next Wednesday night). :wink:

    >>> Roevember 4
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    1Roevember24

    Someone ought to tell Diaper Don that even God won't be able save him the next time from Dick Cheney. :sweat:

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/01/politics/donald-trump-liz-cheney-war-hawk-battle/index.html
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Today in Trumpenfreude :mask:

    Trump is up 65% to 35% in the betting markets (which have a solid track record) and ahead in swing state polling. If he outperforms his polling like he did in the last elections he will win all the swing states and it's even conceivable he could win the popular vote (hell, it's within the margin of error for some polls). — Count Timothy von Icarus
    :rofl:

    Consider this recent article on how easily "betting markets" are manipulated ...
    https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/dont-trust-the-political-prediction-markets

    @Baden @Mikie @Benkei

    Addendum to
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/940625



    >>> Roevember 5 :victory:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    29Octubre24



    ¡Se acerca el 5 de Roeviembre! :victory: :flower:
  • Evidence of Consciousness Surviving the Body
    Why don't they kill themselves? They're telling us death is nothing to be afraid of and benefits us hugely....yet they seem reluctant to die. Actions speak louder than words. — Clearbury
    :up: :up:

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/916613

    @Sam26 :eyes:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Paine
    :up:
Home » 180 Proof
More Comments

180 Proof

Start FollowingSend a Message
  • About
  • Comments
  • Discussions
  • Uploads
  • Other sites we like
  • Social media
  • Terms of Service
  • Sign In
  • Created with PlushForums
  • © 2025 The Philosophy Forum