I think that my claim is merely subjective. — Truth Seeker

All of my sensory perceptions, thoughts, emotions, etc. are subjective. How can I possibly know anything objectively? — Truth Seeker

↪BitconnectCarlos The double standard is to say colonisation is wrong but to support Israel, to say oppression is wrong but to support Israel, to say human rights are universal but to support Israel, to say self determination is a right but to support Israel, to say war crimes are wrong but to support Israel.

None of that excuses Hamas. — Benkei

We can't know anything outside our subjective perceptions and understanding. — Truth Seeker

Do you agree that "objective truths" are actually shared subjective truths? — Truth Seeker

If the roles were reversed, sure. If it were mostly Israelis living in a concentration camp and being killed at 10x the number as their occupying oppressors, I for one would be condemning the latter. — Mikie

↪Mikie Indeed. I think power is important. I'm less concerned about who is evil and who isn't (like orcs vs elves) and more about who has power and what are they doing with it. — bert1

natural selection is not random — wonderer1

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. — Ephesians 6:5

Is atheism illogical? — Scarecow

If you say X is eternal and X is all there is and from X all new combinations and variations arise, how do you parse out your claims from the deist's? — Hanover

I also wonder about the possibility of 'no origins' ... — Jack Cummins

So what is leftover when discarding the aesthetic/metaphysical? — schopenhauer1

What is this impulse in philosophy for an aesthetic view?

What does it matter if the aesthetic view exists?

Why are some people drawn to it and some not?

Responsibility sticks to power. I rather suspect anti-Israel sentiment, and the relative downplaying of Hamas's nastiness (at least in this thread - it's not the case in most the media I've come across) has to do with the fact that Israel can, and indeed is, killing a great many people and destroying all the buildings and infrastructure, and Hamas is not. If the boot were on the other foot, I rather suspect we'd all be slagging off Hamas. But each cunt has its day, as someone famous might have said, and today it's Israel who is the cunt. — bert1

I don't think anything truly resolves the question of the origin of our existence. — Hanover

Anyway, done with genocide apologists. — Mikie

Personal preference and culture seem to be the source of our ethics. — Tom Storm

I don't know if the science of descriptively moral behaviors (the Science of Morality) will help with ethics. — Mark S

I fear that ethicists will not recognize its usefulness.

Does this science provide a foundation for morality? — Mark S

I regard this whole endeavor as a fruitless dead end. — Fooloso4

↪180 Proof Did you know that Jesus was a Palestinian? — Moses

↪NOS4A2, the Clown isn't anti-state. Just pro-Clown-state. — jorndoe

I am not trying to do ethics. — Mark S

For me, as a nihilist, I find the idea that there is no transcendent meaning rather joyous and exciting and one full of possibilities. I am unencumbered by dogma and doctrine and need not concern myself with following any preordained path. — Tom Storm

Do you have a conclusive argument justifying an imperative moral system? — Mark S

If not, what moral guidance would you suggest as superior to what I propose here?

In no way does the science of morality (as the study of what is and has been descriptively moral) make our ultimate moral goals an empty phrase — Mark S

Jews are one family. — BitconnectCarlos