Maybe you missed the link posted by @ "wonderer1" ...the counterintuitive phenomenon of "blindsight", in which patients behave as-if they see something, but report that they were not consciously aware of the object — Gnomon
There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark. The only thing that makes it look light is the sun. — Gerry O'Driscoll, doorman at Abbey Road Studios
I wouldn't want to live an 'unexamined life' or without ever wholeheartedly loving anyone else. I also wouldn't want be a coward or servile. (I'm sure there's more ...)With this in mind do you think there things that aren’t immoral but you still shouldn’t want to be the kind of person that does them even if you’re the only person affected? — Captain Homicide
Yes, we are 'beings-in-media-res'. I prefer Jasper's notion of 'Existenz' as conditioned, or grounded, by what he calls the encompassing¹ or even better, more concrete, Spinoza's/Deleuze's 'radical immanence' (i.e. eternal and infinite substance²).I wonder if we forget our place if we don't sometimes remind ourselves of the middle. — Fire Ologist
"Determinism" is a thought-experiment, not a truth-claim – a supposition, not a proposition.Is determinism true? — Truth Seeker
We cannot "know" it, only imagine it.How can we know for sure?
:100: :up:My statement was that there's no reason to believe Biden is any better.
— boethius
Exactly. Which is absurd and, I’ll repeat (accurately); if this is your conclusion, then you’re not paying attention. Plain and simple ... My suggestion is to read less philosophy— it’s not doing you any good here. — Mikie
:smirk:Now everything else can toss the coin (or when you do metaphysics, the coin can toss everything else). — Fire Ologist
Interesting. I agree with "the coin ... logic". However, suppose "everything else ... objects of science/philosophy" instead tosses the "coin", so to speak, again and again again dialectically. :chin:I would say the two sides of the coin include science and philosophy together on the one side, keep the coin as the connector logic, but put everything else on the other side as the objects of science/philosophy. — Fire Ologist
You believe the goal of physicists' "T.O.E." is to explain "everything"? that it's not just physics but some final (super-natural) metaphysics? I thought the aim was to produce a testable unification of the fundamental forces of nature – to demonstrate they are aspects or modalities of one another – that's formulated into a G.U.T. (which would include QG). What does "everything" have to do with it? That's not physics. How is it even possible to test a purported explanation for "everything"?I hope the T.O.E. fails. — ucarr
:up:I read Robert Alter's biblical translation — BitconnectCarlos
AFAIK: no, it cannot.The scope of science includes more th[an] nature? — ucarr
Yes (e.g. facts, subjects).The scope of nature includes more than material things and their attendant physics?
I agree, but for a different reason: reality itself is the negation of impossibility (e.g. facts in contradiction to one another or to themselves; things with inconsistent properties), or that the Principle of Non-Contradiction (PNC) is the coin of the real(m) with complementary faces: Philosophy (roots, heads) and Science (branches, tails).I argue for the vanishing point of difference between science and philosophy through the essential linkage connecting brain and mind.
Not so, not even close ...Many[none] of these circumstances applied when Hillary ran and she lost. — Benkei
So what accounts for "qualia" other, or more efficacious, than "physical/functional properties"?... qualia (the subjective feel of experiences) cannot be accounted for purely by physical/functional properties ... — Matripsa
This is incorrect even for today's neural networks' and LLMs' generative algorithms which clearly exhibit creativity (i.e. creating new knowledge or new solutions to old problems (e.g. neural network AlphaGo's 'unprecedented moves' in its domination of Go grandmaster Lee Sedol in 2016)). 'Human-level intelligence' entails creativity so there aren't any empirical grounds (yet?) to doubt that 'AGI' will be (at least) as creative (i.e. capable of imaging counterfactuals and making judgments which exceed its current knowledge) as its makers. It will be able to learn whatever we can learn and that among all else includes (if, for its own reasons, it chooses to learn) how to be a moral agent.But AGI is limited to knowledge, and so, structurally, it can only decide and choose based on information already made explicit that it is told or learns. — Antony Nickles
Philosophy of science.Science of Philosophy, or philosophy of science? — ucarr
Philosophy is not theoretical but rather is interpretive (i.e. makes explicit – problemarizes – presuppositions and/or implicitations) of non-theoretical as well as theoretical statements.Can scientific truth and philosophical truth contradict each other and yet retain their validity, respectively?
Science extends, not "deviates" from, philosophy into matters of fact (e.g. applied maths and logics).Does science deviate from the philosophical project when it rolls up its sleeves and gets down and dirty with observation of nature, experimentation, and double-blind testing?
NoIf science discovers a posteriori the facts of nature, then does it follow that science, being the source of empirical truth, equates itself with materialism?
No.Isevery[any] category of science a type of materialism?
I don't understand this question.Does philosophy hold aloof from science within an academic fortress of abstract math and logic?
"Philosophy of science" does not "govern science", it only clarifies and interprets concepts, methods, models, experiments, etc (and maybe even the import to, or impact on, non-scientific, or cultural, practices).If philosophy of science governs scientific practice, then does it follow that philosophy, being the source of the rules, equates itself with metaphysics?
IMHO, a (kataphatic) metaphysics proposes a categorical hierarchy, or organization, of topics/aporias in philosophy – (e.g.)Is every category of philosophy a type of metaphysics?
No, but actual knowledge is fallibilistic.Say we have accepted some not-yet-falsified claim and count it as knowledge, and then it becomes falsified. Was it ever knowledge in that case? — Janus
No.Did you watch the video and read the research paper in the first post on this thread? — Truth Seeker
Yes, of course (or at least not as relevant and sufficient "evidence"^^).Are you saying that they don't count as evidence?
As I've already stated:If so, why don't they count as evidence?
."Clinical death" indicates the limit of (available) medical interventions for reviving a patient and not [relevant and sufficient evidence^^ :point:] the terminal stage of a patient's morbidity.Resuscitation is not resurrection^^ (or reincarnation). Death is irreversible brain decomposition^^. Unless 'dis-embodied subjectivity' (i.e. flat earth) is the case, "NDE" or "RED" cannot be anything but a false memory illusion. — 180 Proof
:up: :up:Why use scientific progress and not simply technological progress? — ssu
Calvinists, for instance, (seem to) believe that some are pre-determined to be "damned" or "saved".No one deserves to go to heaven or hell because no one has free will. — Truth Seeker
:chin: Even so ...Perhaps human agency (free will) is at the pinnacle of their determination of what is good for us. — Benj96
I've no reason to doubt that this "all-knowing omnibenevolent entity" would coopt us into engineering a humanly inescapable menagerie ("Matrix") for our own good that optimally simulates "the illusion of agency". — 180 Proof
