• Culture is critical
    I agree. "Time travel" & "parallel universe" stories in "scifi" almost always have idiot plots. Anyway, I'd prefer a very faithful, high production animated adaptation (continuation or reboot) series of 1960s-era Star Trek to any live-action movies or shows such as Picard, Discovery, Strange New Worlds, etc – all of which, just like TNG, DS9, Voy & Ent, are unwatchably boring to me. Maybe a new animated B5 movie will be better than no new B5? Hopefully the writing and voice acting will be good enough to evoke the original show. :nerd:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    31 CHARGES OF VIOLATING THE ESPIONAGE.ACT. I'm so glad the former "leader" of "the deep state", his co-conspirators & flunkies are finally being PROSECUTED by "the deep state". For a while there, NOS, I worried that "the deep state" was broken because "45"'s regime had failed so spectacularly for four years to "lock her up" "build a wall paid for by Mexico" or "steal the 2020 election from Sleepy Joe (who wasn't in power) & some GOP-controlled states". :smirk:
  • The Indictment
    :sweat: :up: Belated Happy 59th!
  • The Indictment
    :sweat:
    [Trump's] scared shitless. This is the way he compensates for that. He gives people the appearance he doesn’t care by doing this...For the first time in his life, it looks like he’s being held accountable...Up until this point in his life, it’s like, ‘I’m not going to pay you. Take me to court.’ He’s never been held accountable before. — John Kelly, retired US Marine General and fmr WH Chief of Staff (R)
    https://twitter.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1669008051959889920

    Crappy Birthday, Traitor-1.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    @NOS4A2

    [Trump's] scared shitless. This is the way he compensates for that. He gives people the appearance he doesn’t care by doing this...For the first time in his life, it looks like he’s being held accountable...Up until this point in his life, it’s like, ‘I’m not going to pay you. Take me to court.’ He’s never been held accountable before. — John Kelly, retired US Marine General and fmr WH Chief of Staff (R)
    https://twitter.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1669008051959889920

    Crappy Birthday, Traitor-1.
  • What is self-organization?
    :clap: :up:

    Biosemiosis is based on the physics of dissipative structure. And dissipative structure is also the basis of cosmology. The Big Bang theory describes the Universe as a cooling-expanding structure of dissipation - a system falling into the very heat sink it is making.

    [ ... ]

    So reality as a whole - the entire shebang from cosmology to consciousness - can be modelled in the fundamental coin of thermodynamic theory. That is why information-entropy has become the basic metric employed by physical and mental theories. It is used in quantum theory. It is also used in Bayesian Brain theory.
    apokrisis
    :fire:

    You don't seem to tire of casting pearls ... Good. :smirk:

    Apparently, something about my information-based worldview is discomfiting for you.
    @Gnomon

    It’s the crackpottery. Simple enough
    apokrisis
    :sweat: Amen, brother!

    The significance is clear.

    "Conventional physics deals only with closed systems, i.e. systems which are considered to be isolated from their environment."
    — Ludwig von Bertalanffy, General system Theory (1968)
    Metaphysician Undercover
    Yes, von Bertalanffy is significantly confusing cosmology – the universe as a closed system – with all other phenomena – subsystems – modelled by "conventional physics". :roll:
  • A Case for Analytic Idealism
    Isn't climate change ultimately coming to liberate us from the cycle of death and rebrith? Why act to prevent it?Tom Storm
    :smirk:

    :up:

    Such is the bane of all speculative metaphysics: there’s no empirical proofs, but only internal logical consistency and strict adherence to the LNC, the only form of certainty we have to guide our contemplations.Mww
    :fire:

    Literally all of good metaphysics tries to extrapolate based off of the real world their best explanations of it and only bad metaphysics ventures so far beyond reality with merely LNC.Bob Ross
    :fire:
  • Currently Reading
    In honor of Cormac McCarthy, d. 2023 (today)

    Outer Dark
    • Blood Meridian
    • No Country For Old Men
    • The Road
    • The Passenger
    • Stella Maris
  • Where do thoughts come from? Are they eternal? Does the Mindscape really exist?
    The online reviews summarizing Jerrold Katz's platonist critiques of "naturalism", "empiricism", "pragmatism", "conceptualism", "nominalism" & "antirealism" remind me of the platonic cosmologist Max Tegmark's mathematical universe hypothesis, presented in his (speculative memoir) Our Mathematical Universe, which I'd found rigorously compelling in spite of my own (anti-platonist) philosophical naturalism.
  • Born with no identity. Nameless "being".
    Your questions don't make sense because pre-reflective cognition (re: "infancy") doesn't formulate self-reflective beliefs ("I" "who" "what" "where" ...)
  • The science of morality from the bottom-up and the top-down
    ↪Mark S Ninth thread on the same topic; same problem as the first thread:

    At the core, that we do cooperate does not imply that we ought cooperate.
    — Banno
    Banno
    :up:
  • What's the implications of this E.M. Cioran quote?
    I suspect Cioran would agree ...

    There's no such thing as life without bloodshed. I think the notion that the species can be improved in some way, that everyone could live in harmony, is a really dangerous idea. Those who are afflicted with this notion are the first ones to give up their souls, their freedom. Your desire that it be that way will enslave you and make your life vacuous. — Cormac McCarthy, d. 2023 (today)
  • TPF Quote Cabinet
    The last of My Three Writers – S. Beckett, d. 1989 & T. Morrison, d. 2019 – has shuffled off this mortal coil today:

    Cormac McCarthy 1933-2023

    You give up the world line by line. Stoically. And then one day you realize that your courage is farcical. It doesnt mean anything. You've become an accomplice in your own annihilation and there is nothing you can do about it. Everything you do closes a door somewhere ahead of you. And finally there is only one door left. — The Sunset Limited (2006)

    :death: :flower:
  • The Indictment
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/814767

    Of the 1 out of 50 who don't plead guilty, more than 4 out of 5 criminal defendants are convicted by federal prosecutors.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/06/11/only-2-of-federal-criminal-defendants-go-to-trial-and-most-who-do-are-found-guilty/

    Traitor/Seditionist-1 ain't "Teflon Don" no more. The next shoe will drop soon in a federal courthouse in Washington D.C. for the January 6th Insurrection Conspiracy and Incitement federal charges.

    LOCK HIM UP! :victory: :mask:
  • What's the implications of this E.M. Cioran quote?
    "The problem" is suffering (Buddha, Epicurus, Epictetus, Spinoza, Nietzsche, Zapffe ... Cioran ...), that is, how we use our minds (i.e. metacognitive habits), not "existing" as such.
  • What's the implications of this E.M. Cioran quote?
    The problem is that this means the only way out is through.schopenhauer1
    Amor fati.

    :death: :flower:
  • The Indictment
    The case against him is not regarding his time in office. It's about the records he stole, hid, and lied about possessing after leaving office.creativesoul
    Regardless, though, the indictment isn't limited to the PRA or civil remedies available under it. It involves violation of the Espionage Act, obstruction, and other criminal matters.Ciceronianus

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/814765
  • What's the implications of this E.M. Cioran quote?
    All of this then implies that it was best to not have this brought about in the first place.schopenhauer1
    Which is not an option open to anyone who's already-born. Preventing new births likewise accomplishes nothing because the already-born continue to suffer; perhaps only reducing net suffering of the already-born is possible, or worth striving for. I rephrase Cioran's insight as
    It's not worth the bother of killing yourself or refusing to procreate, since you always kill yourself and go extinct as a species too late.
    :fire:
  • Defining Features of being Human
    I used both terms because they reflect divergent(?) yet IMO valid interpretations. For the record, I'm pro-euthanasia, pro-abortion (i.e. pro-woman), antinatalist & anti-anthropocentric (i.e. pro-posthumanist).
  • Defining Features of being Human
    How about a man/boy who no longer consents to be a man/boy?
    And of course a woman/girl who no longer consents to being one?
    universeness
    Did they ever "consent" in the first place? AFAIK, no one "consents" to be born; one can only "consent" to destroy (or mutilate / modify) oneself.
  • Defining Features of being Human
    I believe that humans should be treated as if we are special.Andrew4Handel
    Might work for AGI machines (like Asimov's "Law of Robotics") but we're primates, first and foremost, driven by territorial, hierarchical, reproductive & tribal instincts amplified by a sliver of forebrain grey matter into (mal/adaptive) cognitive biases which reinforce in each one of us "I am special" (i.e. "more special than you"). Eusocially constrained self-serving organisms – delusional and struggling. To wit: if we "treat" everyone "as if we are special", Andrew, then no one will be "special". Human facticity – problems for us endure, or strive against, not for us to solve.
  • UFOs
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/814458

    So are my "UFO" speculations implausible?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    I don’t think he broke the law nor do I care if he did.
    — NOS4A2

    Well that just says everything
    Michael
    :mask:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    "31 counts of Violating The Espionage Act ..." :shade:

    (Update pending on imminent US Federal indictments for Obstruction of Justice, Espionage, etc.)180 Proof
    No longer "pending" ...

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/814066

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/814765

    It's only a matter of time, @Mikie, before Traitor-1 buckles under the crush of criminal indictments & civil lawsuits. :victory: :smirk:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    From inside the MAGA circus-tent:

    I was shocked by the degree of sensitivity of these documents and how many there were, frankly. If even half of it is true, then he is toast. It's a very detailed indictment and it's very very damning. And this idea of presenting Trump as a victim, a victim of a witch hunt, is ridiculous. Yes, he's been a victim in the past. Yes, his adversaries have obsessively pursued him with phony claims, and I've been at his side defending against them when he is a victim. But this is much different. He's not a victim here. He was totally wrong. — fmr US AG (and Trump-fixer) Bill Barr, FOX Noise 11Jun23
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/11/bill-barr-donald-trump-classified-documents-indictment/70310878007/

    it is an extremely damning indictment ... this is not an indictment that you can dismiss. It's really breathtaking. Obviously, this is mishandling, you know, putting classified documents into ballrooms and bathrooms is -- it borders on the bizarre. ... the visual and audio tape evidence is really daunting.

    There are indictments that are sometimes called narrative or speaking indictments. These are indictments that are really meant to make a point as to the depth of the evidence, there are some indictments that are just bare bones. This is not one of those indictments. The Special Counsel knew that there would be a lot of people who were going to allege that the Department of Justice was acting in a biased or politically motivated way. This is clearly an indictment that was drafted to answer those questions. It's overwhelming in detail.

    The Trump team should not fool itself. These are hits below the waterline. These are witnesses who apparently testified under oath [and] gave statements to federal investigators, both of which can be criminally charged, if they're false. Those witnesses are directly quoting the president in encouraging others not to look for documents or allegedly to conceal them. It's damaging.

    It's hard to show a picture of these boxes surrounding a toilet and saying ‘we really acted responsibly'. The government is bringing dozens of counts – they only have to land one of those punches. Keep in mind that every one of these counts is coming with a substantial potential sentence.
    — Jonathan Turley, MAGA legal spin-master, FOX Noise 9Jun23
    https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-legal-commentator-jonathan-turley-trump-indictment-extremely-damning-2023-6

    @NOS4A2 :victory: :mask:
  • A Case for Analytic Idealism
    ↪180 Proof It's not meaningless, you just don't agree with it.RogueAI
    I don't disagree with anything because you haven't explicated anything. Your claim, Rogue, is opaque to me for the reason given previously.
  • Defining Features of being Human
    Discursive metacognition.
    — 180 Proof

    Do you class this as a physical or mental attribute?
    Andrew4Handel
    Yes.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Whether or not you believe it's morally wrong is irrelevant. What he [Trump] did was criminal. He knew it too.creativesoul
    :100:
  • Science as Metaphysics
    "The First Cause" .... "just is". :roll:

    It's far more parsimonious and reasonable to posit that the cosmos "just is" (i.e. eternal, though changing), as Aristotle did in Books I & VIII of his Physics^^, than to confabulate any nonevident and redundant terms (e.g. "first cause", "unmoved mover" from the posthumous kluge of Aristotle's "Metaphysics").

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternity_of_the_world ^^

    Proclus, Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd, Giordano Bruno & Spinoza, for example, agree (more or less) with Aristotle's "eternal cosmos" rather than his "first cause" fiat. No "materialists/reductivists" required. And further relegating "the first cause" to history's dustbin is modern cosmology's model of eternal inflation by Alan Guth and Roger Penrose's conformal cyclic cosmos as well as the Hartle-Hawking's No Boundary proposal.

    @Gnomon :eyes: :sweat:
  • Which is worse Boredom or Sadness?
    You're playing trivial word games which bore me.