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The Philosopher will not find GodTheology, I admit, belongs to classical metaphysics; but the "god of the philosophers" is not worshipped or what religious / mystical seekers seek.
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The Philosopher will not find GodNo. Religious faith is the focus of the philosophy of religion. "God" is the focus of theology.
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The Philosopher will not find God
Make the argument, señor.180 Proof claims philosophy and god are incompatible. I beg to differ. — Agent Smith -
Carlo Rovelli against Mathematical Platonism
I think 'chess is the possibility-space (i.e. actuality) of all chess games and players are the potential realizers of all chess games' is clearer.I think chess is a good analogy. Once the concept of chess exists all possible chess games are given potential. Once a chess game is played (even in one's mind) that chess game becomes real. — EnPassant -
Are we alive/real?Your question assumes that when we eat carcasses (and over-processed foodstuffs) we're not, in effect, eating shit ... how curious.
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The Philosopher will not find God
And yet in the mouth of (most?) believers these days, "God" is just a three-letter epithet (or crutch) for ego ("why").My argument is that you need to stop believing in yourself in order to believe in God. — unenlightened -
Emergence@universeness @Agent Smith
Ad hominems, strawmen & non sequiturs-riddled rationalizations of your "enformer"-of-the-gaps poor reasoning are empty and boring.
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Top Ten Favorite FilmsThe overall best cast? :yikes:
Just barely ... The Lion in Winter
-Peter O'Toole
-Katherine Hepburn
-Anthony Hopkins
-Timothy Dalton
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The Philosopher will not find GodNon sequitur. i agree with Nickolasgaspar and disagree with your reply to him.
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Are we alive/real?"Life" might be nothing more than an ongoing, self-esteeming story certain ephemeral, coprophagic arrangements of matter are telling themselves. :flower:
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The Philosopher will not find God
"There's a place for" unintelligibility-inexplicability (i.e. "divine mysteries") "in phlosophy" (i.e. the love – pursuit – of 'masterful intellection-explication')? :roll:[T]here's a place for god in philosophy. — Agent Smith -
My problem with atheism
This is confused, you've got it backwards, mon ami. :smirk:Pandeism has residual elements of religion while pantheism doesn't. — Agent Smith -
TPF Quote CabinetPerhaps struggle is all we have because the god of history is an atheist, and nothing about this world is meant to be. So you must wake up every morning knowing that no promise is unbreakable, least of all the promise of waking up at all. This is not despair. These are the preferences of the universe itself: verbs over nouns, actions over states, struggle over hope. — Ta-Nehisi Coates, Between the World and Me
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Are there more plausible dogmas for a "God" than those posited by major religions?
Yeah, we're congenital magical thinkers. Up to about a third of us are quite susceptible to the placebo / nocebo effect.Is it innate to us to consider such an entity when given no prior exposure to the concept? — Benj96
I don't think so.And if so, does that itself have any implications on the argument for or against such an entity? -
US Election 2024 (All general discussion)Well, my track record is pretty good. I predicted HRC would find a way to throw the 2016 election, that Individual-1 would be impeached by the end of 2019 (because of Mueller's Report, I thought, which I was wrong about), in the summer of 2019 that Individual-1 would lose reelection in 2020 and that there would be no "red tsumani" in 2022. I'm on a roll, Benkei. :wink:
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New AtheismIn America, anything that's presented as "a more philosophical version" of some public issue will be ignored by most media and the general public. Almost all of the "New Atheism" advocates are really just old-time irreligious, pro-secular polemicists in a new social media age.
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Are there more plausible dogmas for a "God" than those posited by major religions?
"Everyone" can't "get behind" the fact that the Earth is round so any prospect less concrete – rorschach signifier – is a non-started for "everyone" to agree on.So what ought be the dogma of an" acceptable God?" One that everyone could get behind. — Benj96 -
US Election 2024 (All general discussion)Good chance of that.
Maybe a Republican woman President, before Sarah Palin helped sink McCain's candidacy, had a good chance but in this post-Tea Party & MAGA-insurrectionist era I expect it will be two or three more Presidential elections before "Republican primary voters" throw up a nominee – man or woman – who will have an even chance to win enough of Independents and former-GOP voters to get back into the WH. My guess is that the fallout from Individual-1 & co's indictments, convictions and consequent civil unrest / political terrorism will have catastrophic electoral consequences for the GOP that will last for at least a generation. -
US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
Whitmer for President with running-mate Newsom for Veep works just as well for me too – maybe even better!Watch California governor Gavin Newsom for President (with Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer for VP). Now that's a MAGA-killing ticket! — 180 Proof -
Currently Reading
:yikes:I'm even seriously considering reading Hegel. — Jamal
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ArcheAs per Witty, the meaning of "logos" is its use (re: context). "John of Patmos" and Heraclitus of Ephesus clearly used "logos" differently. :roll:
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US Election 2024 (All general discussion):up:
In the WH, yes; but I don't think DeSantis will get that far precisely because his reactionary populist – fascistic, racist, mysogynist, public health-denying – policies in Florida amply demonstrate how much scarier he'd be than Individual-1.
I suspect Biden will announce in the fall that he's not running in 2024. Kamala Harris is already DOA (and good riddens). Watch California governor Gavin Newsom for President (with Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer for VP). Now that's a MAGA-killing ticket! Not nearly as far left as I'd like or this country needs but consistently more firmly progressive than Biden-Harris (or Obama-Biden or Clinton-Gore). -
US Election 2024 (All general discussion)Obama was the less bad option in both elections. IMO, his being black helped get him elected in 2008.
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US Election 2024 (All general discussion)AFAIK, so far only DeSantis & Individual-1 (less and less) ... they're also looking for anyone who the MAGA mouth-breathers will support. Like Pence (who's delusional), Haley ain't one of them.
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US Election 2024 (All general discussion)MAGAs won't give her the nomination. Most GOP donors don't back her candidacy.
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Emergence
Insofar as Enformationism is synonymous / analogius to deism: if it walks like god-of-the-gaps and quacks like god-of-the-gaps and denies sound counter-arguments like god-of-the-gaps, then it must be, for all intents and purposes, god-of-the-gaps. :zip:I described Deism simply as a "non-religious philosophical position". — Gnomon -
The Philosopher will not find God
What we "know about" (which?) "God" is that it is "the greatest mystery" – the (ultimate) inexplicable "answer" to every question that begs them all. Recognizing that "God" does not explain anything (re: mythos) is what motivated the Presocratic proto-scientists (physiologoi) in Ionia & Elea to speculate on rational explanations (logos) for nature (phusis) and our minds (nous). IMO, to seek explicable wisdom is incompatible with seeking inexplicable "God"."God" is one of the greatest mysteries of human existence. So if a philosopher seeks wisdom, then knowing about God would be a high priority. — Metaphysician Undercover
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