Rationality imposes many duties on a person and one of them is to be skeptical in a global sense - everything must be doubted - and that includes rationality itself. — TheMadFool
to wit that it's just one method of removing doubt and there may be other, possibly better, methods out there to tackle the problem of doubt. — TheMadFool
How would we know X is better than rationality? — TheMadFool
I'm contesting the seemingly common notion that such mental creativity can only come from sort of non-deterministic process, the likes of which (for instance) could not possibly ever be programmed into an AI. — Pfhorrest
I'm arguing that abstract creation is indistinguishable from discovery, — Pfhorrest
If Purpose can not exist without a consciousness, did the universe not have any purpose before consciousness emerged? — Ash Abadear
Isn't the skeptic's position that nothing can be known, even if paradoxical, the uncomfortable truth? — TheMadFool
But if thinking beings cease to exist, wouldn't the hammer cease to have a purpose, and be just a collection of atoms, subject only to purely mechanical forces of nature? — Ash Abadear
Nah. Hammers do not have purposes. They are used for our purposes. Having a purpose could be rendered as aiming to do something or other in particualr. Hammers do not aim to do anything. — creativesoul
The question is whether "Purpose" can exist in any other form, other than a thought. — Ash Abadear
a thing which we commonly refer to as a thought or idea that desires or drives action. — Ash Abadear
Perhaps you can shed some light on it. — TheMadFool
I don't think there's anything that contradicts the principles of rationality in quantum entanglement but I get what you mean viz. that there are some observable facts about the world that defy reason, in effect giving us a good reason to doubt reason itself. However, notice that this is still a rational thing to do i.e. we're still using reason when we make this judgement. Also, although I'm not a physicist, this whole idea of quantum physics not conforming to rational principles like the law of non-contradiction is merely a misconception, an unfortunate effect of poor analogies. — TheMadFool
I would say we cannot truly doubt everything because by living we don't doubt everything. — Ciceronianus the White
FYI, there's more acceptance of doubt in religious communities than on atheist forums. — Hippyhead
I sympathize with your position but, like it or not, reason has emerged as the final authority on matters of truth. Reason's a time-tested method and has the final say when our goal is to separate fact from fiction. Put differently, we have seem to be under the impression that there's no reason to doubt rationality/logic/reason. My question is, given your position, what does it mean to doubt reason itself? — TheMadFool
My main concern here is this: is reason infallible? Will logic and rationality guarantee a safe passage to truth? — TheMadFool
a) I believe that the vitriolic juxtaposition and the divisive polarization would also continue under a Hillary Clinton presidency. This isn't just about Trump, even if he makes things worse. If you think how little the Hillary scandals were, the missing emails or Benghazi, how about then a scandal like Jeffrey Epstein, a sex ring organizer with ties to the ex-president husband of the sitting president getting killed in prison when on suicide watch? Just one example. — ssu
b) How do you think the relations would have gone with Hillary Clinton and the republican governors? You think that would have been a great team effort everybody? — ssu
From my understanding, one is unable to fear death while feeling peace. — Josh Lee
Because really, under a Hillary Clinton administration, would things have been so much better? — ssu
What is interesting is that 'hell' or 'the underworld' (Hades, etc.) have often been associated with the physical world. One can even see parallels with Buddhism here, as attachment to the physical will prevent one from attaining (degrees of) enlightenment. — Tzeentch
the point is merely that morality involves caring about how my actions affect others. — Janus
The basic thing is that you have to care. — Janus
Because we value wellbeing — Bert Newton