you would rather take the side of the fanatical atheist — 3017amen

you said consciousness doesn't require logic, what does that mean? — 3017amen

I’m not an atheist. Please exercise better common sense observations.
— praxis

I’ll take the reason/science based fanatic
— praxis

Because you said the forgoing, in that you would ' take reason/science based fanatic'; was it unreasonable to conclude you were an atheist? — 3017amen

he did not know consciousness itself transcends logic. — 3017amen
You contend that only a religion could inform him of that?
— praxis

The short answer to that short question is, I would contend that both science and religion are not mutually exclusive. — 3017amen

Define, "power", as it seems like we are now talking past each other. — Harry Hindu

... he did not know consciousness itself transcends logic. — 3017amen

“The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who—in their grudge against traditional religion as the "opium of the masses"—cannot hear the music of the spheres.” ― Albert Einstein — 3017amen

... the values that permeate western culture are largely based on Christianity even for those who don't believe in God. — Ross Campbell

is Stoicism a better guide to living than Christianity and should it replace the latter as a set of values to live by? — Ross Campbell

Is it the case that all isms are essentially nothing-but-isms? — Janus

I can relate to this experience throughout my two pregnancies: the notion of a part of your bodily system ‘expressing its individuality’ by responding in its own way to certain foods, bodily movements/positions or environmental factors (sounds, temperature, etc)... — Possibility

I’m not really seeing what others are referring to as a bias. So far, I don’t think I’ve seen one thread where everybody agreed with the OP. It doesn’t matter what your opinion is, someone on here will disagree with you about it. It isn’t an echo chamber by any means, imo. — Pinprick

Shortly after birth one is excised from his mother, thereby severing any connection to anyone else. There's nothing arbitrary about this very real uncoupling. Indivisibility beyond this point means death. — NOS4A2

What is arbitrary is any notion of responsibility toward others, towards some collective, even towards one's newborn. — NOS4A2

CEO's are individuals that have acquired their power not through their work alone. — Harry Hindu

It is not the forum that is special. I am. The forum is just a medium that enabled me to use it advantageously, but to imagine some special place it holds is entirely subjective, a fantasy-narrative that imagines meaning more than this subjectivity. — TimeLine

And unfortunately there are quite a few inane or outright insane posters on this site, so it's difficult to avoid. — Maw

I could stand Cormak McCarthy's book The Road, just barely, but not the movie. — Bitter Crank

This is almost right. We seem to have forgotten that a company or corporation is not an individual and therefore doesn't possess rights as an individual. — Harry Hindu

Hail Mary Project by Andy Weir — Bitter Crank

So individualist are in favor of antitrust laws? I thought y’all was all about FREEDOM!!
— praxis

Individualism really isn't a model for economics. In general individualism promotes freedom, but I think what you are not understanding is that while that is the case, it may not necessarily agree with what individuals use that freedom for. Much in the same spirit of the famous quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". — Tzeentch

That's a lie, I never claimed that individualism seeks to secure power over others. I said there may be the implication that an individualist wants to secure their power by eliminating the competition, ...
— praxis

That would make them a non-individualist, then. — Tzeentch

You claimed that individualism seeks to secure power over others. This is not the case, as individualism recognizes such things as every individual's right to self-determination.

What you're doing is trying to blame individualism for negative human traits like greed and will to power, which is exactly the type of mischaracterization that Harry Hindu pointed out earlier. You're framing individualism as a form of egotism, which it is not. — Tzeentch

As ↪Harry Hindu pointed out, individualism includes recognizing the rights of other individuals and not just one's own. If one is consistent in their beliefs, an individualist actually would shy away from positions of power over others. — Tzeentch

do you not have a rational basis (as opposed to an empirical one) for believing in the existence of justice or must faith also play a role? — Hanover

It seems to me that you are implying that there should be only one group and no competition — Harry Hindu

Do you want to go to a cardiac surgeon that is just trying a new procedure for the first time or would you rather that s/he had performed the procedure many, many times? — synthesis

I think a lot of the moderators have stopped commenting as much. Comments about moderation have dropped off. — T Clark

Why by lottery and not by free elections? — Harry Hindu

You're the one that used a single word to describe individualists, as if the two terms were essentially conflated, when you only need to take a second to see how that is just as much a property of collectives as it is individuals. — Harry Hindu

That's strange that you don't see the autocrat as someone that competed to get to the top of society. — Harry Hindu

Individuals are free to work with others if they so choose — Harry Hindu

I don't why you would think that competition is soley the characteristic of individualists. — Harry Hindu

Collectivists seem intent on limiting individual thought and imposing the thought of one individual on the rest. — Harry Hindu

And if by "dialectics" you mean Marxism — Apollodorus