What I am claiming is that there is nothing "divine," or eternal about necessary truths. — charles ferraro
I don't mean to be facetious, but has anyone actually verified that arithmetical proofs are true in all possible worlds? Have they visited any of these worlds and done so? Where are these worlds? Have we questioned these other minds about this? — charles ferraro
[our] creative act is open, at every moment, to the possibility of complete cessation. — charles ferraro
this perpetual openness to and oppressive, arbitrary, unrelenting subjection to the possibility of complete cessation clearly indicates, to me, that the contingent Cartesian thinking and the indubitably certain contingent Cartesian existing don't really matter that much, even if they are man's own creation. — charles ferraro
It's like you're asking 'but why does two plus two equal four? You can't prove it.' — Wayfarer
Fair enough, and of course I agree, but the point was that there is no need to prove such simple facts. And I’m a Platonic realist about numbers, so I also agree that the integers are real. — Wayfarer
because one object and one object is two objects, then 2+2=4. — counterpunch
Watch raindrops, sliding down a window. One plus one equals one. — Banno
Hey there’s a really good current essay on this subject....quick google....here, I’ve been meaning to start a thread on it, perhaps I will, it’s a bit tangential to this one, but have a read. — Wayfarer
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