aletheist         
         
apokrisis         
         
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jkop         
         for the sake of discussion, suppose that we must adopt one or the other. — aletheist
TheWillowOfDarkness         
         
aletheist         
         Thus we arrive at a substratum, or substance, view. — darthbarracuda
A nominalist who would adopt realism for the sake of discussion is an extreme relativist. — jkop
Wayfarer         
         General arguments are just incoherent. — TheWillowOfDarkness
The extreme realist (or universalist) would have to explain why it seems as if there are particulars, and explain how our language talks about particulars without there actually being any. The extreme universalist, it seems to me, has it easier, as particulars could potentially be argued to be just loose bundles of properties held together by symbiotic powers and forces. — darthbarracuda
TheWillowOfDarkness         
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