The problem isn't that the lanes aren't clearly marked. The problem is that people won't stay in their lanes. — Hanover
I hope you would allow that people of good will could see the politicized science of the past year very differently. — fishfry
I think the reason we have the knowledge and technology to solve the climate and ecological crisis - but don't apply it, is the ubiquity and exclusive authority of ideological bases of analysis - and what I'm trying to do is get people to look beyond the battlements of ideology to a scientific understanding of reality, because in those terms, it's a relatively simple problem to solve. — counterpunch
What you describe sounds like a relatively simple solution because it fails to recognise the ideological bases of analysis that convert what we know, think and feel into what we do. — Possibility
From what I've seen in your posts, you and I have a very different understanding of how science and science-based policy making are supposed to work. — T Clark
Now that it’s largely accepted that the disease escaped a Chinese laboratory, have any of those above issued a correction or so much as an update?
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I can't understand the mindset of people who uncritically accept everything without question. — fishfry
I ran across a video of a woman being tased for refusing to put on a mask. — fishfry
deserved everything she got. — counterpunch
You'd have made a good German. — fishfry
And if she deserved everything she got. didn't George Floyd? Or is your violent authoritarianism one-sided? I see that you saw the same video I did. I can't fathom the kind of human being that would see that video and say "she deserved what she got." People like you frighten me. — fishfry
Not so fast. — counterpunch
5. Looking to the sciences for answers to questions beyond their scope. — Susan Haack
Notice that counterpunch did not actually point out specifics as to what was amiss in the article? — Banno
Science as an ideology is a dud. The amount of appeals to science these days is ludicrous. Science has become the new dictator,the new religion. Science has almost zero to say on the human condition and little to say on values and morality,except evolutionary psychology and social sciences,both of which are terrible. — Zenny
Did I miss anything? — Wayfarer
You haven't shared with us what exactly you think is problematic with point six. — Banno
I'd rather you explained what is problematic in the article cited. — Banno
I think it describes the piece of the puzzle you're missing, and will either confuse you utterly, or give you an indication where I'm coming from. — counterpunch
And you'd have make a piss-poor philosopher. Was she tased to death? — Fooloso4
You'd have made a good racist! I think perhaps you mean Nazi. — counterpunch
George Floyd's choices created the situation. If he'd complied he wouldn't have died. The jury decided the police officers actions were disproportionate - and I accept that, but it remains, he could have got in the car, and he'd still be alive. — counterpunch
This piece lacks credibility:
Now that it’s largely accepted that the disease escaped a Chinese laboratory, have any of those above issued a correction or so much as an update?
First of all, it may be widely accepted by readers of the Federalist, but it is not widely accepted by those who have the expertise and information to have an informed opinion. Second, there is at this point no reason to issue a correction, there is not conclusive evidence that it did come from a lab. Third, Fauci did issue an update. He said he is no longer convinced that it could not have come from a lab and thinks that more investigation is needed. — Fooloso4
I found nothing in the article about "systematic suppression" of the origins of the virus.
Both you and whoever wrote this piece seem to not understand how science works. — Fooloso4
Did Tom Cotton have sufficient evidence to declare in February 2020 that the virus came from a lab? Without such evidence his claim was irresponsible. Fauci's response is both reasonable and responsible. Follow the evidence. — Fooloso4
This is what Politifact has posted on its website: — Fooloso4
Extremely biased site.
That seems to be exactly what you are doing. — Fooloso4
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