Matter formed at conception is the soul. I don't subscribe to dualism. Humanity is the form but it is not separate from matter. The soul is all through the body and the body is all through the soul. We speak of them as two and must but I think they are really one. — Gregory
We should never recognize the right of one person to take the innocent life of another. — Gregory
Yes. Matter formed at conception is the soul. I don't subscribe to dualism. Humanity is the form but it is not separate from matter. The soul is all through the body and the body is all through the soul. We speak of them as two and must but I think they are really one. — Gregory
On abortion, people are arguing, "first it must have a heart", "no a brain and a heart", "no kidneys too", "no it must be born". All these arguments are random. The form is there at conception and blossoms into different shapes of that form throughout life — Gregory
You do use sophistry. The mother has no right over something that is not her body. Child's body, it's rights. — Gregory
The mother has rights over her body, not someone else's — Gregory
The soul dies with the body then? — praxis
don't think we classify lives as "innocent" and "not innocent" in our legal system, — Srap Tasmaner
Keep in mind that self-defense is not just an analogy here, but a common exception recognized in abortion laws. An unborn child can threaten a mother's life without having an intention to. — Srap Tasmaner
She sure as hell does, if that other body goes a wandering around inside of her body. It's like a little uninvited trespasser. — James Riley
Coming from somebody who said the fetus is a human but you would personally kill it is asked by the mother.. — Gregory
If it wasn't for the abortion issue biologists would be in agreement that human life starts at conception. — Gregory
Of course we do — Gregory
Someone trying to kill you is not analogous to the situation with a fetus — Gregory
Arbitrary means random — Gregory
There is no concept of a life being innocent that I'm aware of. — Srap Tasmaner
Support for abortion is completely dependent on emotion and not based on rationality. If you want to be an animal your choices are in your hands — Gregory
Crimes forfeit rights because of bad actions. — Gregory
If it wasn't for the abortion issue biologists would be in agreement that human life starts at conception. — Gregory
All I've said is what Aristotle, Hegel, and others have said about form, spirit, soul — Gregory
Arbitrary means random — Gregory
A person is made from an egg and a sperm, from mother and father, not from one. — Gregory
If it wasn't for the abortion issue biologists would be in agreement that human life starts at conception. It is the desire to make things other than they are they people say otherwise — Gregory
That sounds like the soul is the merger of the soul and the body/matter, but thats a stretch of coherency. What is this thing that merges with the body to form the soul? The soul? That doesnt make sense. Where does the “pre soul” soul come from? The sperm? — DingoJones
Yes. Matter formed at conception is the soul. I don't subscribe to dualism. Humanity is the form but it is not separate from matter. The soul is all through the body and the body is all through the soul. We speak of them as two and must but I think they are really one.
— Gregory — DingoJones
… Most cloning today uses a process called somatic cell nuclear transfer (SCNT). Just as with in vitro fertilization, scientists take an immature egg, or oocytes, from a female animal (often from ovaries obtained at the slaughterhouse). But instead of combining it with sperm, they remove the nucleus (which contains the oocytes’s genes). This leaves behind the other components necessary for the initial stages of embryo development. Scientists then add the nucleus or cell from the donor animal that has the desirable traits the farmer wishes to copy. After a few other steps, the donor nucleus fuses with the ooplast (the oocytes whose nucleus has been removed), and if all goes well, starts dividing, and an embryo begins to form. The embryo is then implanted in the uterus of a surrogate dam (again the same as with in vitro fertilization), which carries it to term. ("Dam" is a term that livestock breeders use to refer to the female parent of an animal). The clone is delivered just like any other baby animal. — “FDA on Cloning of Livestock”
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