Rewards and punishments in this world are instruments of governance intended to incentivise moral behaviour... — unenlightened
o be sure, following ↪Ciceronianus's point, we might excuse those who fein admiration in order to avoid becoming victims themselves, although presumably god will be aware of their attempted subterfuge and treat them accordingly. — Banno
So if you say theists and atheists live in the same world you deny the existence of the spiritual reality of the world. — EnPassant
Religion can be part of that system of the coercion that brings about our acquiesces to the powers that be. And, as Tutu showed, it can be part of the revolt. — Banno
To put it another way, moral language games involving Hell or God don't resemble moral language games without either in them. — fdrake
I find it odd that so many who profess not to be christian are so quick to jump to the barricades when they perceive an attack. Did you notice that? — Banno
No. I'm puzzling as to why some nonchristians feel a strong need to be so defensive of christianity. — Banno
I'm puzzling as to why some nonchristians feel a strong need to be so defensive. — Banno
Are you doubting that it is a propositional attitude - that it is faith in something...?
'cause that's not right. — Banno
Have you considered the possibility that you may have "tin ear" when it comes to religion? — Janus
What we can put into words trumps what we can't. — Banno
...you willfully misunderstand their faith and can't be bothered to consider them on their own merits/beliefs. — Ennui Elucidator
It's a morality thing dude. We defend our brothers and sisters of every creed or colour or none. Solidarity, it's called. — unenlightened
Of course any feeling of faith can be more or less framed in propositional terms. What I am saying is not about that, but about what I consider to be the fact that people of faith (who are not fundamentalists) are not much concerned about propositions, but about feelings. Have you considered the possibility that you may have "tin ear" when it comes to religion?. — Janus
Just how general is this maxim? — Srap Tasmaner
The doctrine being critiqued is their own, in their own words. — Banno
What doctrine? — Ennui Elucidator
Well, what is being critiqued is the notion that a god whois so unjust ought be worshiped.What is being critiqued is those who admirer a tyrant. — Ennui Elucidator
What is not explained is whether someone that worships the tyrant admires it and/or approves of the tyrant’s conduct. — Ennui Elucidator
The article is about judging a person on their relation to the tyrant and whether we can admire that person — Ennui Elucidator
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