I hope you become more positive in your predictions of the future of our species.
You might be a happier person if you tackle your hopelessness in new ways.
Another hour will still pass, regardless of your decision to live through it with despair as your main companion or hope. Choose life, don't see life as a curse because despair will become all you are or ever will be. — universeness
because they cannot be born innocent if they are never born — universeness
Your arguments regarding your conflated criteria for 'unnecessary harms' are utterly subjective and on a case-by-case basis, far too complicated and nuanced to be used as an argument for such a blunt dimwitted solution as antinatalism. — universeness
A forest fire could be labeled an unnecessary harm but after the fire, a lot of new growth occurs. — universeness
As I have told you many times your thinking is too shallow. You deserve every insult thrown at you as you will not accept scientific fact, you will still try to blunderbuss your way through because you are incapable of admitting you are completely wrong. You are a prideful idiot. — universeness
Um, that doesn't mean that you then put them in a situation of harm so that they can be in a situation whereby the offense can take place — schopenhauer1
I don't create an injustice so that injustice can be a "thing" for which I can violate. — schopenhauer1
You don't handle nuance well it seems, as you admit right here, so perhaps you shouldn't even touch that one as it might overcomplicate your mind. It's already been spewing out a lot of poorly worked out objections (if that's what they are) — schopenhauer1
if YOU (someone) did something to another person to cause harm unnecessarily, that is what I am talking about. — schopenhauer1
For some reason you misapply moral decisions with natural occurrences. — schopenhauer1
You have not shown the supposedly overwhelming evidence for your claim about the IDEA of "I want a baby/I want to procreate" being an instinct. — schopenhauer1
One does not have the right to impose a lifetime of injustice on another person just because you want to have a little baby to look after. — Bartricks
To procreate is to create an innocent person. They haven't done anything yet. So they're innocent. — Bartricks
Um Pocahontas, you suggest that they are in a situation of harm due to their birth and that there exists an intent behind that, which is BS. There is no such intent on the part of the parents or the universe. — universeness
I recall member DA671 making great effort to get through your foggy thinking. He blew your shallow thinking out of the water and you simply could not handle it. Your pathetic petted lip was present in almost every tedious response you made to his posts regarding your antinatalism. — universeness
Antinatalism is not a justified solution to the issue of human suffering so you advocate for injustice every time you propose antinatalism as the solution. You can run round and round your little hamster wheel as much as you like, you will still generate no power for your debunked arguments. — universeness
Is that your best fighting talk? What a powderpuff attack! — universeness
If I harm others it is either deliberate, accidental or unintended consequential so not ever 'unnecessary,' such a term is only applicable to those who decide to judge and such judgements can be utterly rejected on an individual basis so it is completely subjective and AGAIN TOO WEAK to use as a justification for something as extreme and ridiculous as antinatalism. — universeness
No, the problem is that your shallow thinking cannot perceive the relationships between them. — universeness
Perhaps we should do the right thing and offer people the choice - natalism/antinatalism - and let the chips fall where they may. — Agent Smith
Bartricks, forgive them. They know not what they (natalists) do!
This is the kind of ridiculous, seriously f***** up, BS your musings conclude! How low do you go you idiot. — universeness
Go back and read your exchanges with DA671 — universeness
Keep reading them until his logic finally lifts the vile fog of antinatalism from your sad life. He is a much friendlier human being than I and he was able to tolerate the BS you type without losing his patience. — universeness
Your antinatalism just bores me now. You are a little lost child. — universeness
Don’t reply or comment if you don’t have anything of substance to say about the subject, which you continually show, you don’t — schopenhauer1
I will leave you with your ever-decreasing circles. — universeness
Ah maybe a sock puppet thenJust keep reading your exchange with DA671 He can save you!! :smile: — universeness
Ah maybe a sock puppet then — schopenhauer1
The view that it is wrong to procreate is not the view that no one procreate. It is normative: a view about how ought to behave, not a view about how we do behave — Bartricks
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