f you are unhappy with a comment or an approach, just say so plainly. This is a dialogue. No need to embroider your comments with imputations of a person's motives or intentions. That isn't good manners, doesn't demonstrate good faith and muddies an otherwise interesting conversation. — Tom Storm
It isn't out of character for you to omit text from my posts that is germane to the discussion, then criticize what you've quoted as if it were written without the omitted text. Have you considered that perhaps if you had it sitting in front of you, you wouldn't keep losing track of what I've written? Regardless, your omitting text isn't "inadvertent". As such, it's "intentional". — ThinkOfOne
↪ThinkOfOne Oh, and are you able to address my response? Particularly this which you can't avoid with a scenario which doesn't remotely match the situation we are discussing.
Where is the equivalent of a journal with actual words in it as source material for the gospels which are copies of translations of copies of translations, written decades after the events? Your thought experiment is predicated on a real and ordinary person who has left direct first hand source material via a written record of actual words said. And only one person involved in the process which took those words and recast them in fiction. Can you demonstrate that Yeshua kept a diary? Can you demonstrate that any notes were ever taken of Yeshua's itinerant preaching? Can you demonstrate that there is any connection at all between any words as they appear in the gospels and any words said by any actual person?
— Tom Storm — Tom Storm
Well, perhaps you don't understand thought experiments. Or you've lost track of the context of this thought experiment. Perhaps it's once again due to the fact that you "read this stuff quickly during breaks at work." — ThinkOfOne
If you kept track of what I've written, understood thought experiments and kept track of the context of my thought experiment, perhaps you'd understand that your response is irrelevant to the point of the thought experiment. — ThinkOfOne
I did address your response with the following:
Well, perhaps you don't understand thought experiments. Or you've lost track of the context of this thought experiment. Perhaps it's once again due to the fact that you "read this stuff quickly during breaks at work."
— ThinkOfOne — ThinkOfOne
You're really something. — ThinkOfOne
It's kind of ironic because as far as we know there are no records of Yeshua ben Yosef words or whoever the first century figure/s was who may have inspired the legends. So how much should we care about this? — Tom Storm
So is your argument that we cannot trust the gospels, but can trust what they say Yeshua ben Yosef said? ...Or is it that only the stuff that is the same in all four gospels is true...? — Banno
Interesting that you choose again to attack and belittle rather than to clarify. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps you are challenged by this kind of discussion. Take care — Tom Storm
Well, it's clear that you can't be bothered to keep track of our discussion. Why should I be bothered to keep explaining what you keep missing because you "read this stuff quickly during breaks at work"? — ThinkOfOne
Seems reasonable to place import on the quality of the underlying concepts conveyed. — ThinkOfOne
Seems reasonable to place import on the quality of the underlying concepts conveyed.
— ThinkOfOne
Is your claim that concepts you deem to be of superior quality are those taught by Jesus, and those of lesser quality are not his own? — Fooloso4
the importance of HIS words. — ThinkOfOne
The words He spoke while He preached His gospel. — ThinkOfOne
From what I gather, the words attributed to Jesus from the beginning of His ministry through His crucifixion as documented across the four gospels: Mark, Matthew, Luke and John are the only extant records. — ThinkOfOne
Is your claim that concepts you deem to be of superior quality are those taught by Jesus, and those of lesser quality are not his own? — Fooloso4
You lay emphasis on:
the importance of HIS words.
— ThinkOfOne
The words He spoke while He preached His gospel.
— ThinkOfOne — Fooloso4
And yet another ad hom post from you. nothing is new?And yet another low quality post from banno. What else is new? — ThinkOfOne
Why do you keep taking everything out of context? — ThinkOfOne
Banno will never change.
But despite the rudeness and lack of substance in many of his posts, he has a proper education in philosophy and is expert in analytic philosophy. I guess this means that his misbehaviour is sometimes tolerated by the staff.
as a reduction of philosophy to mere theology, in one of my insubstantial threads....using scripture, revelation or other religious authority in an argument — Banno
Why do you keep taking everything out of context? — ThinkOfOne
lol. From what I gather, most are well aware of your low quality posts. For example, from a mod:
Banno will never change.
But despite the rudeness and lack of substance in many of his posts, he has a proper education in philosophy and is expert in analytic philosophy. I guess this means that his misbehaviour is sometimes tolerated by the staff.
Take this a wake-up call to step up the quality of your posts. Thus far, in your responses to me on this thread and others, it's been nothing but a steady stream of low quality posts and baseless accusations. Seriously, in the main they have been laughably bad. — ThinkOfOne
Why do you keep evading the issues? — Fooloso4
Present a cogent argument that isn't a straw man and I'll be happy to address it. — ThinkOfOne
You're nothing more than a troll as you keep demonstrating. — ThinkOfOne
Banno will never change.
But despite the rudeness and lack of substance in many of his posts, he has a proper education in philosophy and is expert in analytic philosophy. I guess this means that his misbehaviour is sometimes tolerated by the staff.
Present a cogent argument that isn't a straw man and I'll be happy to address it. — ThinkOfOne
Why should anyone take you seriously? — ThinkOfOne
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