The rude journo, recycling DNC talking points, was roundly handled and came off looking like a sour apparatchik. — NOS4A2
I'm sorry, but in a normal candidate, this might make sense, but Trump spews nasty rhetoric every day of his public life, when someone calls him out on it, he shouldn't act as if he doesn't deserve to be called out. Ridiculous. I would have supported you if it was your average politician, but then again, the amount of vitriol read back to that person would not be the same in the first place, so wouldn't even be an issue.
Politicians use critical rhetoric against their opponents all the time, and rightfully so. — NOS4A2
Personally I see nothing wrong with it, especially when it's defensive in nature — NOS4A2
as it was against most of the comments she mentions, painted as they were in identity politics. — NOS4A2
Of course if one wants bromides, platitudes, and euphemisms he can find another politician. — NOS4A2
Journalism is meant to inform us, not to repeat an opponents criticism or otherwise engage in the politics of a guest's opponents. — NOS4A2
What she did was campaign for the opposition, using their own talking points, in an effort to smear her guest. — NOS4A2
he journalist in the middle was far more graceful in both insult and substance, both subduing Trump and asking him questions he seemingly could not answer, and making him look rather silly in the process. — NOS4A2
But because of the organization's failures we, as listeners, were robbed of any fruitful info because of it. At least we got the show, though. — NOS4A2
This — Benkei
is as usual written by people who barely understand what a democracy is and what a political party is. — Benkei
Biden was the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party not the "democratically elected presidential nominee". — Benkei
The Party is not a democracy and has its own process for nominating the nominee and had every option available to it to not nominate Biden at the upcoming convention. Biden could either leave on his own, or get booted during the convention. In fact, it would be a breach of trust towards Democratic voters to allow an incompetent, senile grey-tufted old fogey to run as the nominee all but ensuring Democratic values would not be pursued for 4 years due to losing the presidency. — Benkei
The worst is they lied and covered for Biden’s condition for years. So not only did they nullify the primaries and deny the votes of tens of millions of people with their palace coup, they did so only because they couldn’t keep up the charade any longer. — NOS4A2
Votes and elections and so-called democratic institutions mean very little to them in principle. It’s probably why they dropped the “threat to democracy” schtick and went with calling their opponents “weird”. But remember all this when they avail you of the sanctity of elections. — NOS4A2
It's not a coup which you keep using because you insist something bad or illegal happened. — Benkei
It didn't. It doesn't matter how many votes he got as a nominee, he wasn't confirmed as the nominee. He stepped down or would've been removed at the convention in accordance with party rule. His presumptive nomination didn't confer any powers either. For a coup both rules need to be broken and power shifted. Neither happened. — Benkei
Finally, I didn't appeal to it being democratic but that it would've been a breach of trust by the Democratic Party to let a doorknob run for the presidency. — Benkei
Learn to read. — Benkei
Power shifted like Mario Andretti at the Indy 500. Biden had and still has many supporters among the Democrats. They got shafted along with his fourteen million primary voters. They've had to go along with the coup now that it's a done deal; but they are not necessarily happy about it. — fishfry
Suffice to say many observers saw Biden get shoved aside by an intra-party coup, or a "palace coup," as some described it. Of course not a violent or government-changing coup. So a soft coup. I can live with that. The word coup seems to bother you, I don't know why. — fishfry
Biden had and still has many supporters among the Democrats. — fishfry
You saw that his announcement was posted to X, was accompanied by no public statement or even a photograph, and bore a signature arguably not Biden's.
You saw him disappear for five days. You saw his 11 minute hostage video, full of platitudes about democracy and the good of the country. And since then we've barely seen him at all. Like I say, if that's all we get in the way of proof of life, I ain't payin' the ransom. — fishfry
It's not only Republicans and fallen liberals like myself who see the irony of the Democrats bleating about "democracy," when they so profoundly fail to exemplify it. — fishfry
They're hardly in a position to talk about democracy! — fishfry
I see nothing wrong with a firebrand, and in fact prefer them. And the argument there are or were no firebrands in American politics is simply false. — NOS4A2
But your complaints about name-calling and smearing is betrayed when you seem quite comfortable with the smearing and name-calling yourself, and in Trumpian fashion no less. So what’s really the problem? Something else must be bothering you. — NOS4A2
My guess is you are yearning for the placating platitudes, euphemisms, and bromides that tend to lull the public to sleep. — NOS4A2
It serves to disguise a politician’s actual thoughts and intentions behind an opaque cloud of political play-acting, so that they may get away with murder or convince you to war. — NOS4A2
It’s the kind of rhetoric that makes Orwell turn in his grave, and the daily Two Minutes Hate we see at little shows like that one make it all the more egregious. — NOS4A2
, who subsequently assassinated the chief Palestinian negotiator — Tzeentch
My guess is you are yearning for the placating platitudes, euphemisms, and bromides that tend to lull the public to sleep. It serves to disguise a politician’s actual thoughts and intentions behind an opaque cloud of political play-acting, so that they may get away with murder or convince you to war. This sort of language is designed so that you don’t have to think about politics, so it’s no strange wonder that one might resent when he sees its opposite. It’s the kind of rhetoric that makes Orwell turn in his grave, and the daily Two Minutes Hate we see at little shows like that one make it all the more egregious. — NOS4A2
I hope you're not talking about me, schop.
But to respond seriously to your remark: Imagine paying people for that. Propaganda lesson #1 is to get people emotionally invested to such an extent that they will parrot bullshit willingly. — Tzeentch
laments the loss of decorum in politics, and Trump, through his magic words, is making it all happen. No greater example of magical thinking has been published. — NOS4A2
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