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         to imply that one has to be a Husserlian.These notions only have meaning within the context of phenomenology. — sackoftrout
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         then you accept that it is something about the physical instantiation of the human body that makes it immoral. I discuss that there dooes not appear to be a rational for this — sackoftrout
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         Peoples intuitions are often wrong — sackoftrout
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         Something is good or right when it is predicted to increase the net positive-negative experiences in the set of all conscious experiences (opposite is true for bad/wrong). Therefore morality, by definition, requires consciousness. — sackoftrout
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         Demonstrates? I have a few questions pertaining to the first paragraph.This is an argument which demonstrates that abortion should not be considered immoral and that anti-abortion views are largely the result of psychological biases. — sackoftrout
What moral considerations in particular are being referred to here? How, and by whom or what, are they applied to protect conscious systems? And what are these systems being protected from?Moral considerations are applied to protect systems which contain the complete physical and/or informational machinery required to generate consciousness. — sackoftrout
What rights are being referred to here? Are moral considerations being equated with rights (i.e., are they synonymous terms)? What is phenomenological experience as opposed to other types of experience?These rights uphold the respect and dignity of autonomously guiding one’s own delicate phenomenological experience. — sackoftrout
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         Do you mean to say that without the impulse for sex, there would be no propagation of human life?The propagation of human life is founded on the strength of the impulse for sex. — sackoftrout
Which pro-life supportes are also against.contraceptives — TheMadFool
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         Moral considerations are applied to protect systems...
I'm familiar with intersubjective moral codes and subjective moral truths, but not with what you're talking about. Are you referring to some sort of universal morality which is inherent in human nature (i.e., natural law)?I’m talking about all moral considerations, so the individual becomes the object of moral axioms. This includes rights, but also more general axioms people may have such as the golden rule. — sackoftrout
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          Srap Tasmaner
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         Without deliberate intervention in this system, many more children would be born. Conversely you can say that rational human interference has prevented the natural trajectory towards consciousness for many systems. — sackoftrout
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         I think this distinction does not really exist and is a fallacy based on failure of intuition. — sackoftrout
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         where negative experiences inflicted must have consent from all individuals (who have working or repairable conscious machinery) affected. — sackoftrout
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