For example like Fresco - if people really join God after death, then you should be happy that they died! — Agustino
I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - the Christian God - and not the God of the philosophers.So then what kind of belief do you hold, is it the perfect being god, a personal god. or? and why? — Cavacava
Because that's the conception of God that makes most sense of the world and that puts the human being in their right place - both exalted as the image of God - and as a finite creature who owes its existence to God (think of the story of Job).and why? — Cavacava
>:O >:O >:OAre you a douche, obsessed with making fun of the Christian Old Testament, do you think Richard Dawkins represents the real presence of Christ, do you enjoy being a dick toward people who are religious, do you think that your disbelief in God makes you better, smarter, cooler? If you check boxed any of these, I'm sorry, but you're an idiot O:) — Heister Eggcart
A pity 180 Proof isn't here, he'd be great batting for the Absurdists :P . Feel free to discuss any of the ideas present in this OP. — Agustino
if people really join God after death, then you should be happy that they died! — Agustino
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. - 1 Cor. 2:9
38 Therefore if that man repenteth not, and remaineth and dieth an enemy to God, the demands of divine justice do awaken his immortal soul to a lively sense of his own guilt, which doth cause him to shrink from the presence of the Lord, and doth fill his breast with guilt, and pain, and anguish, which is like an unquenchable fire, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever. - Mos. 2:38
4 Behold, I say unto you that ye would be more miserable to dwell with a holy and just God, under a consciousness of your filthiness before him, than ye would to dwell with the damned souls in hell. For behold, when ye shall be brought to see your nakedness before God, and also the glory of God, and the holiness of Jesus Christ, it will kindle a flame of unquenchable fire upon you. - Morm. 9:4-5
A befitting #666 post.I'm an atheist for the same reasons as Terrapin. I like some religious people, but doubt they understand atheism well enough to classify sub-divisions of it meaningfully. I accept certain sorts of experience as religious experience. — mcdoodle
Schopenhauer did not adhere to any religion, but he was a religious man nonetheless. He affirmed the existence of the transcendent through his philosophy.Where would you place Schopenhauer? — Thorongil
180 had stopped posting, except very rarely, at old PF too. 180 did not like the format of the forums here.180 Proof was here briefly (they're still in the members list), sometime ago, only made a few comments though. I think it was before PF collapsed. Perhaps we were just not interesting enough at the time (or even now). We did/do have less variety than PF did. — TheWillowOfDarkness
Speaking of which, where is 180 Proof anyway? — darthbarracuda
It seems the point of contention is over the narrative that explains man's desire for the transcendent. Whether this occurs due to the real existence of a transcendent realm, or merely as a way to counteract and somehow blind man from what his reason has revealed in order to enable survival. — Agustino
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